Bank Fraud

[YerraBoy]

yerra, normally you'd have to have a bit of cheek to say something like you'd "engaged a fraud officer to strengthen measures in this regard" but after you got your judgement OK'ed by Saint K in the first place, in spite off "disturbing evidence", you'd be rolling around laughing makin up de press statement.


http://www.independent.ie/national-n...e-3210208.html

http://www.bailii.org/ie/cases/IEHC/2010/H41.html

yerra, when de Ball is bounced into the DPP will it get pulled on??

[Captain Con O'Sullivan]

Fire up the financial hearse there .... another file will wend its way through the streets of Dublin to be hooted at by urchins.

They must have a fair old collection of lever arch files at the DPP by now. I wonder do they record the time and date when they were received. Or just shag'em onto the heap.

[musashi]

the head honcho of corporate enforcement Paul Appleby resigned his position today.
Appleby has been responsible for enforcing the law in relation to the banks for the last 10 years and oversaw the banking collapse in Ireland.

His resignation triggers alarm bells for me as he is essentially distancing himself from an impending slew of Anglo Irish prosecutions and their respective outcomes.

[YerraBoy]

you could be right Captain Con O', but sur yerra haven't the bank admitted that the signatures were forgeries, fairly open and shut for de Gals and Boys in de DPP...

Offense/Crime (perjury into the mix??), investigation, admission of guilt... DPP take a case and bang up a few bankers.

and sur yerra de overwhelming amount of main-stream-media attention its received even flabbergasts an auld langer like me.

Mumshai, the 'penny apply' fella over looked company law, t'was Hohonan/Elderfield who have de reins at the Central bank/financial regulators, lets see them there fellas step up to the mark and drive this one too and recommend a withdrawal of their banking licence. They've practically shagged off out of the country anyway, might as well give them a good running kick up the arse to help them on their way, might serve as a shot over de bows to a few others.

[DCon]

the head honcho of corporate enforcement Paul Appleby resigned his position today.
Appleby has been responsible for enforcing the law in relation to the banks for the last 10 years and oversaw the banking collapse in Ireland.

His resignation triggers alarm bells for me as he is essentially distancing himself from an impending slew of Anglo Irish prosecutions and their respective outcomes.

not enforcing the law, no?

Was Appleby a patsy, or was his position a patsy position?

[Captain Con O'Sullivan]

Appleby was the head of the ODCE which was (drumroll) one of those 'independent of government' agencies we like in Ireland and which are less real than leprechauns and zoning corruption investigations.

He returned I believe to the civil service for one day, officially, and thereby 'qualifiied' I hear for an extra lump sum of 300,000 euros from the taxpayer. Is that the most expensive charge a civil servant has charged for one day in Ireland?

If you are looking for an answer to corruption from Paul Appleby you'll be looking a long time. With that little maneouver arranged by himself and other pals in the Irish Civil Service on the Backscratcher principle we have another demonstration of the respect for 'independence' in the senior Irish bent bureaucracy.

I'll leave some space here for Biffo to wander in and flap his hands about and claim there is nothing unusual about this (which would be true) that the principle of 'independence' in Ireland remains unsullied (false) and that there is no arranged corruption among senior civil servants in Ireland (patently false).

All rise for a quick gallop through a whiney nosed version of Amhrann na Bhfian. Bye Paul. Hope you get AIDS in both eyes and die roaring and your corrupt little clerk mates in the Department with you, you state looter.

[Baron von Biffo]

not enforcing the law, no?

Was Appleby a patsy, or was his position a patsy position?

http://www.politicalworld.org/showpo...3&postcount=29

Priorities.

[riposte]

http://www.politicalworld.org/showpo...3&postcount=29

Priorities.

1st Prize for economy of language Baron.

"I strive to be brief but I become obscure." Horace

[YerraBoy]

yerra, sur' aren't AIB at it as well, for years at dat,

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland...me-142337.html

have dey all got 'signature' departments, will the few lads in those depts be made redundant, yerra whist tis like a new religion "MONEY" is brow-beat'n us, i can see hurls bein unsheathed yet.

[C. Flower]

yerra, sur' aren't AIB at it as well, for years at dat,

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland...me-142337.html

have dey all got 'signature' departments, will the few lads in those depts be made redundant, yerra whist tis like a new religion "MONEY" is brow-beat'n us, i can see hurls bein unsheathed yet.

A new "altered" loan agreement dated September 23, 2008, was produced by the bank giving AIB security over their investment property and their family home.

It can work both ways.

Were there not a few "alterations" discussed with reference to Irish banks, with bank executives "altering" the terms of loans and guarantees to the benefit of the borrowers?

[YerraBoy]

how de hanging C. Flower.
had a look around de alta vista thing-a-me-jig, de young uns call it yahoo or googlie or somethin; could find naer a reference to bankers benefiting borrowers - bizarre behavior like.
Do you any references yourself?

did find this though
http://www.askaboutmoney.com/showthread.php?t=165921
and the whistle blower post on here as well.

yerra, they're a shower all right.

[YerraBoy]

happy new year to ye all, and sur yerra it's time to get the sticks out for the new season, I see that de banks (not the song de W*&k£€'S boy) are still at it...

http://www.independent.ie/business/i...d-3342935.html
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...328461176.html

http://www.irishexaminer.com/busines...0m-212913.html

[YerraBoy]

yerra isn't goggle great... I see they've learnt how to 'fillet' properly in Iceland...

http://www.independent.ie/business/i...l-3341545.html

[C. Flower]

how de hanging C. Flower.
had a look around de alta vista thing-a-me-jig, de young uns call it yahoo or googlie or somethin; could find naer a reference to bankers benefiting borrowers - bizarre behavior like.
Do you any references yourself?

did find this though
http://www.askaboutmoney.com/showthread.php?t=165921
and the whistle blower post on here as well.

yerra, they're a shower all right.

Just looking at that. Banks have been "rescheduling loans" to beat the band, and we have no right to know what the terms are, or to whom.
There have also been reports on missing or non existence guarantees, and loans that for other technical reasons banks can't pursue.

No time at the moment to google, but perhaps this needs its own thread.

[C. Flower]

yerra isn't goggle great... I see they've learnt how to 'fillet' properly in Iceland...

http://www.independent.ie/business/i...l-3341545.html

What is "filleting" ?