Der Spiegel: Merkel is pushing for a new EU Treaty

[Apjp]

A few stories going round that the Dutch elections could form serious cracks in the eu in september over on max keisers site there. To be honest the thing I don't like is how when we talk about these things with some other europeans it's as though to vote against giving up your sovereignty and freedom makes you 'anti europe'. What a ridiculous concept. VB has pointed out time and again as one of the few non europhile commentators in southern Ireland, that the EU is encoraching our evry lives and if we wish to reclaim any sovereignty at all we will have to start by standing up to Brussels and Berlin. Not that any Irish minister or many Irish people are opposed to servility, especially as it pays so well for some, and to others 'there is no alternative'. Hopefully Michael D will ensure a referendum, not that the sheeple here will vote it down.

The only positive could be another nail in the coffin of FF/Labour.

[PaddyJoe]

More here:

German media report that Chancellor Angela Merkel's government wants a new treaty aimed at deepening political integration among the European Union's 27 members.
Respected news weekly Der Spiegel reported on its website late Saturday that German diplomats have indicated Merkel wants European leaders to start work on the treaty at a summit in December.
Merkel's office didn't immediately respond to requests for comment Sunday.

http://news.yahoo.com/report-germany...104253723.html

[DCon]

It's OK folks. She just wants a Federal State. Why would we need to be involved?

Which she certainly did when Samaras came to Germany begging for more money. She very definitely said absolutely nothing. What she did say, is that after all the posturing, masquerade, and outright lies, Germany now demands precisely what it demand months ago, a year ago, and when this whole European implosion started. A European Federalist state. Again from Reuters: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...87P04520120826

German Chancellor Angela Merkel wants an EU 'convention' to draw up a new treaty for closer European political unification to help overcome the bloc's sovereign debt crisis, weekly Der Spiegel said on Sunday.



Germany, the European Union's biggest economy, has long argued for more national competences, including over budgets, to be transferred to European institutions but faces strong resistance from other member states.



Merkel hopes a summit of EU leaders in December can agree a concrete date for the start of the convention on a new treaty, Spiegel said.



The idea, which Spiegel said Merkel's European affairs adviser floated at meetings in Brussels, recalls the 100-plus strong convention of EU lawmakers set up in 2001 - inspired by the Philadelphia Convention that led to the adoption of the U.S. federal constitution - charged with the task of preparing a European constitution.



The charter that finally emerged was rejected by French and Dutch voters in 2005 and it became instead the basis of the EU's Lisbon Treaty which is still in force today.

Many member states, recalling the lengthy disputes and setbacks that preceded the Lisbon treaty's entry into force, are reluctant to embark on another prolonged process of institutional reform.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/vacati...deralist-state

[Captain Con O'Sullivan]

Anyone got a telephone number for Baader Meinhof?

[PaddyJoe]

No sign of this story on rte.ie or irishtimes.ie although it is covered in the French and Spanish media today. I guess they're waiting for the ok from the Merrion Street news management section

[Greengoddess]

It is important to point out that the convention will have to through the EP. It is not an intergovernmental thing. It appears that the EP expect one in 2015 and will not support a rush through on these grounds. There will be serious resistance from the UK. My question is why is this being mentioned now when it is next to impossible?

[PaddyJoe]

It is important to point out that the convention will have to through the EP. It is not an intergovernmental thing. It appears that the EP expect one in 2015 and will not support a rush through on these grounds. There will be serious resistance from the UK. My question is why is this being mentioned now when it is next to impossible?

Pre electoral posturing from Merkel?

[DCon]

Pre electoral posturing from Merkel?

Or using a crisiss to bully weak cowardly National governments to accept her will and rush through changes to that effect

Seems to be just teh eurozone countries so the UK will not be involved

[Greengoddess]

Pre electoral posturing from Merkel?

Probably. If this goes on the euro zone could fall apart due to sheer exhaustion. Note also that the Irish government is mentioned as resisting. We are obviously resisting something, at least.

[Greengoddess]

Or using a crisiss to bully weak cowardly National governments to accept her will and rush through changes to that effect

Seems to be just teh eurozone countries so the UK will not be involved

Changes to the treaty will involve the uk also.it can't be rushed through.

[Dr. FIVE]

Resisting the likes of JPM and others on the liffey paying tax is about the height of it

[DCon]

Changes to the treaty will involve the uk also.it can't be rushed through.

Looks like Frau M wants a new Treaty though. Not changes to an existing Treaty.

For Europe now, but it will be scaled down to just the EuroZone

The German Chancellor is said to be seeking agreement amongst EU members on a new treaty which would enshrine budget rules across the continent.

It is understood one of the proposals concerns the role of the European Court of Justice, which "could for example acquire the right to monitor the budgets of member states and punish those that run up a deficit."

The proposals by Angela Merkel are not being being viewed favourably by many of the member states.

It is reported Ireland would not be in favour of the idea – as it would trigger an automatic referendum on approval, while Poland also opposes it, believing no consensus is possible.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakin...es-564460.html

[C. Flower]

Changes to the treaty will involve the uk also.it can't be rushed through.

Elected EU President to be offered as a sticking plaster over the democratic deficit ?

http://www.politicalworld.org/showth...ent#post198059

John Bruton has been running around as messenger boy for fiscal union plus an elected President for a couple of years now.

None of this has come about suddenly because of the eurozone crisis. It is a completely self-sufficient political agenda, that has been pushed for year after year by Europe's right wing.

Schauble said as much in his interview with the Irish Times - the crisis is an opportunity to push through "restructuring" - privatisation and sell-of of public assets, low taxes, and low wages. It is just Thatcherism, and it is part of what has caused the current economic crisis of the eurozone (about which Schauble says he really isn't too bothered).

[Captain Con O'Sullivan]

I think it is a corporate superstate which is the final envisaged destination. If you notice the ECB used to be an agency of the European Union where it is now visibly detached and engaging in international politics as a stand-alone entity.

I think, like the national banks across the EU, the ECB has now managed to assume a supranational political position and the EU institutions do not have any control over it.

The ECB itself is a bankers lobby group.

[Apjp]

All our old supsicions about Irish servility were already rung through with the last yes vote. I'm nearly sure that people here will vote whatever way they're told if they can be arsed voting.