Psychological Conditions - Dissociative Identity Disorder

[Captain Con O'Sullivan]

This is such a dangerous area. Doctors who really have not much more knowledge of the brain than anyone who has read a few books are diagnosing and treating an area that in medical terms is still in its infancy.

It could be argued that no two reactions to the same trauma are the same and so generalising should not be possible but its the norm!

True enough that medicine itself is based on assessing symptoms and then diagnosing, then treating so medical doctors are always at risk of either spending ages looking or a physical reason for an issue or else missing a psychosomatic cause.

In many cases the result will be the same anyway- prescribe, prescribe and prescribe again Which in reality is not a treatment but a suppression- a 'holding' pattern.

I wonder how many thousands of people present at doctor's surgeries with vague symptoms which really are an indication of some psychological unease or mild depression.

I have an elderly relative who is notorious as a hypochondriac and in reality we and the doctors know that he should have been treated many years ago psychologically rather than medically but there are very few properly trained psychologists in Ireland and the profession is still very much in its infancy in Ireland.

There is a huge stigma attached to even seeing a psychologist still and in fairness there is the danger of the US system where if you don't have an analyst at some point in your life you aren't successful

I would predict that in decades to come schoolchildren will be taught some basic coping mechanisms when young that help- the stitch in time scenario and giving children a greater understanding of the interaction between body chemistry and moods will be a fundamental learning.

Schools used to have psychologists in a way when they had 'chaplains' but then they were more like commissars of a certain mindset. I think all schools should have at least one trained psychologist available.

[jmcc]

Is that because women were actively conspired against when they applied for these engineering courses or is it because Irish society is still quite conservative and the majority of women go for professions they see themselves as more 'female' professions?

The real reason is that Engineering requires a set of skills that are naturally biologically male skills (visio-spatial reasoning, mathematical reasoning, logic etc). The politically correct types just can't handle the fact that men and women have different and often complementary skillsets. Electronic/Electrical Engineering is perhaps the most extreme case for this type of divide. It is less extreme in Computer Science.

Regards...jmcc

[Captain Con O'Sullivan]

The logical upshot of attempts to engineer a 50% representation of the genders across all professions will be something like the affirmative action capers I suspect.

(1) Quota-filling
(2) Denial that the quota system is not working in terms of quality of director/TD/engineer overall
(3) Attempts to cover-up the failure of quotas by accusation of renewed bias being sprayed around
(4) Quiet dropping of the quota policies.

A meritocracy is worth striving for. A 50-50 gender split is a nice thought but almost impossible to engineer without tricking around with stats or massaging the measurement criteria. So however well-meaning we have to go through the process until the whole area becomes embarrassing and no-one is allowed to speak about it without being attacked as a PC 'counter-revolutionary'

The pity of it is that there will be talented women who are the real deal and who will be left firstly through their own devices to buck trends and break glass ceilings and then will be confronted with being dismissed as part of a quota system.

Thats the real bugger of it all. For every female high achiever there will be five quota-promoted females.

Not hard to work out that in Ireland for example with a quota system of say 50-50 male to female TDs there will be a sudden influx of 'proxy TDs', or females from established political dynasties whose strings will be pulled in the background by the males as usual

[ZeroWedge]

The latest feminist demand is for seats on the board of directors of major companies.

This is clearly a sneaky attempt to defraud money from successful companies rather than a genuine desire to manage a business. The proof of that is, if they really wanted to be directors they could go to CRO.ie, pay €60 to register a company and nominate up to 15 feminists as directors. Why dont they do that?

They dont do that because they then they would have to earn their money, instead of stealing it from businesses that other people have built.

[Captain Con O'Sullivan]

Saw this bit in the Guardian earlier which is an example of the serene nonsense and language around gender issues...

' So what next? There are four appointments up for grabs – at Defence, Home Office, Energy and Climate Change and Wales – all of which, three months ago, were held by women. Each will be individually made on merit. But if the best person for each of those jobs just happens to be a white man, those women and ethnic minorities will take the message and decide to look elsewhere, where their talents will be better appreciated.

What to do? The first and most important move is to make sure that good candidates from a range of backgrounds are encouraged to apply for those jobs. The second is to make sure they are managed with an eye on the overall picture. But third is to have a positive plan to develop and support future talent – so that the next time Whitehall can claim some moves toward real equality, they can be made to last.'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...-civil-service

The first bit I have put in bold which would seem to indicate there isn't much of a problem as regards gender equality in the senior level roles. The second bit in bold is the threat- if these jobs don't go to women this time too then we can accuse them of backsliding on the 'bigger picture'.

The bigger picture being to ignore promotion on merit regardless of gender- but to insist that women be appointed so that everything can be regarded as going alright

[fluffybiscuits]

The real reason is that Engineering requires a set of skills that are naturally biologically male skills (visio-spatial reasoning, mathematical reasoning, logic etc). The politically correct types just can't handle the fact that men and women have different and often complementary skillsets. Electronic/Electrical Engineering is perhaps the most extreme case for this type of divide. It is less extreme in Computer Science.

Regards...jmcc

That would appear to be true but if you scratch past the surface on that women and men use two different parts of the brain for this. Reasons that have been cited have been sex hormones and their influence on the development of the brain so its not that we are more intelligent than women but that our brains appear to use different functions where as the female brain uses other sections. Training appears to benefit both sexes though it appears so therefore anyone can hone their skills to a very good level.

http://www.braincenteramerica.com/visuospa.php

[C. Flower]

Women driving you nuts ?

[jmcc]

That would appear to be true but if you scratch past the surface on that women and men use two different parts of the brain for this. Reasons that have been cited have been sex hormones and their influence on the development of the brain so its not that we are more intelligent than women but that our brains appear to use different functions where as the female brain uses other sections. Training appears to benefit both sexes though it appears so therefore anyone can hone their skills to a very good level.

I'm not so sure that they can be honed in such a manner. That argument is very like the outcome of IQ tests where people can train for them - all that really does is make them more proficient at IQ tests. Engineering, at its most basic level, is instinctive in that you try to find the solution that works for a particular problem. Perhaps people with slightly above average abilities can be turned into ordinary engineers but it requires a special combination of abilities and skills to be a good or great engineer. Not everyone can be Tesla or Woz. However that won't stop social studies types thinking that good technologists can be produced on a production line like mumbo-jumboist quangoites.

Regards...jmcc

[Captain Con O'Sullivan]

Women driving you nuts ?

Not at all. Soon as they take over the running of politics and industry us lads can go fishing.

Best of luck to them

[bernadette]

One of the things that has held women back is the idea that we think differently, and obviously in some ways we do, but that difference can make us better and that's at anything. Its how people use what they've got and what interests them enough to explore possibilities and that is one of the areas of the brain that is completely unknown.

[Captain Con O'Sullivan]

That would be very true of both genders and anothe awkward truth also is that the best minds solve any problem before them and the best women always win because they have the better mind to insist on being in the place that challenges them the most.

I don't think female geniuses are held back because of male restrictions. In fact, I suspect that sometimes the best females are held back by the actions of other females. That is something that is never addressed in the gender mobility debate.

I'm miles into Feminist territory now

[bernadette]

That would be very true of both genders and anothe awkward truth also is that the best minds solve any problem before them and the best women always win because they have the better mind to insist on being in the place that challenges them the most.

I don't think female geniuses are held back because of male restrictions. In fact, I suspect that sometimes the best females are held back by the actions of other females. That is something that is never addressed in the gender mobility debate.

I'm miles into Feminist territory now

+1

[Captain Con O'Sullivan]

Been lucky enough to work for a couple of women who would be either in or at the fringe of genius territory- or near enough to feel the heat off their minds anyway. And the best, I have noticed, are seldom inhibited by any discrimination. One in particular I am thinking of is a graduate of a very good university in Germany and I recall in her chosen area of expertise when I worked for her often used to receive letters address to her as 'Dr'- mainly because the level of expertise and deference to her expertise led many to assume she had a PHd in the subject.

An elegant mind and one of the best I've ever met I have to say. It was a privilege to work for and with her.

It would make me smile to think of her being held back by discrimination- she'd go under, over, or around it in a summer's morning.

I was one of her winged monkeys and enjoyed the sunlight perched as I was on her shoulder

[Spectabilis]

I'm miles into Feminist territory now

Careful Captain..................

[bernadette]

Been lucky enough to work for a couple of women who would be either in or at the fringe of genius territory- or near enough to feel the heat off their minds anyway. And the best, I have noticed, are seldom inhibited by any discrimination. One in particular I am thinking of is a graduate of a very good university in Germany and I recall in her chosen area of expertise when I worked for her often used to receive letters address to her as 'Dr'- mainly because the level of expertise and deference to her expertise led many to assume she had a PHd in the subject.

An elegant mind and one of the best I've ever met I have to say. It was a privilege to work for and with her.

It would make me smile to think of her being held back by discrimination- she'd go under, over, or around it in a summer's morning.

I was one of her winged monkeys and enjoyed the sunlight perched as I was on her shoulder

Say what you like about her Thatcher was the example of successful woman. She didn't care who she was competing with, asked no favours and gave no quarter!

Of course she got it in the neck from both all sides. Feminists, PCs and Traditionalists hated her: she didn't need them.

Poltically I had absolutely no time for her but as a woman I have a guilty regard for her. She shines head and shoulders above all those who believe quotas are necessary. She proved that as far as she was concerned ability was all that was needed.