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    Quote Originally Posted by TotalMayhem View Post
    Well, we now have reason to believe that Monti intends to use his mandate the very same way Hitler used his mandate to rid himself of troublesome parliamentary oversight.
    Then that's what we should be addressing rather than falsely claiming that he doesn't have a mandate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Biffo View Post
    Then that's what we should be addressing rather than falsely claiming that he doesn't have a mandate.
    Well his validity of Monti's mandate is questionable, to say the least. An adviser to GoIdman $achs and the Coca Cola Company being appointed "Lifetime Senator", only two days prior to Silvio's resignation. And there were talks about bringing in Monti long before that and they had the loophole to make it happen.
    I dropped out of communism class because of lousy Marx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TotalMayhem View Post
    Well his validity of Monti's mandate is questionable, to say the least. An adviser to GoIdman $achs and the Coca Cola Company being appointed "Lifetime Senator", only two days prior to Silvio's resignation. And there were talks about bringing in Monti long before that and they had the loophole to make it happen.
    The Czardas is something else though.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF9uQI-SRv4&feature=related"]Monti Csardas - YouTube[/ame]

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    Fiddling with arguments, aren't you?
    I dropped out of communism class because of lousy Marx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TotalMayhem View Post
    Fiddling with arguments, aren't you?
    I was never one to blow my own trumpet.

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    I think this s a good article from Jonathan Freedland

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...icians-smaller

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greengoddess View Post
    I think this s a good article from Jonathan Freedland

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...icians-smaller
    It was Greengoddess ...... but the universe has changed a lot since that was written.
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    Interesting that Monti feels he can be brazen about this trend. I think somethinglike the rule of unelected appointees was implicit in the EU from its inception. After all the EU os at its heart an economic construct where rights of citizens are subordinate to the four economic 'freedoms', free movement of goods, labour, capital and services. In a climate of crisis where the economic basis of the EU is in serious trouble and imperilling the workings of the Internal Market that pressure would be brought to bear on the democracy of peripheral atates where it is perceived that democracy could bring results incompatible with the interests of the European ruling class and where constitutional provisions for suspension of democracy exist which allow for the installation of leaders who are a safe pair of hands.
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    Very true.
    Has the Irish elite given up on the idea of appointing that nasty Sutherland as Taoiseach?

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