Waste of Resources at Local and National Level

[Nikolai Bukharin]

all those county developement boards and parterships...it would be better to hand out the cash to passing winos.

[C. Flower]

all those county developement boards and parterships...it would be better to hand out the cash to passing winos.

Lol!

I have seen some daffy things done by them, but there is a layer of business - particularly small scale quality food production - that was worth supporting. Walking route networks, too.

Much better value than the "flagship" tourism projects, some of which disappeared without a trace.

[goatstoe]

Ok maybe I was a bit cranky last night so sorry about that.

I think that all this business about not paying the HC unless we end some vague notion of waste is just a self-serving rationalisation for tax dodgers.

I had to pay 65% PAYE in the last recession because spongers wouldn't pay their share. A few years later I had to suffer the further insult of seeing those same parasites getting an amnesty. I don't want to see a repeat of that in the current recession.

Well, I would take an alternative view. I take exception to your tax dodger jibe, as I already said I endorse the introduction of a properly costed property tax. By the way they should call it a property tax, not a household charge.

The powers that be are telling us everything has changed. They are saying we must pay for things that hitheroe were paid for by the pre-existing tax take.

I would think that it is reasonable that if everything has changed like they tell us it has, then it will change across the board.

In other words if people are being forced to comply with a new tax where they are being asked to pay extra for social services, then on the other side of the fence a concerted effort should be made by those in control of the purse strings of public money to stop wasting the public's money.

[DCon]

In other words if people are being forced to comply with a new tax where they are being asked to pay extra for social services, then on the other side of the fence a concerted effort should be made by those in control of the purse strings of public money to stop wasting the public's money.

Wasting public money (for personal benefit/benefit to political party/benefit to friends) seems to be the reason why most Irish politicians enter politics.

[Baron von Biffo]

Well, I would take an alternative view. I take exception to your tax dodger jibe, as I already said I endorse the introduction of a properly costed property tax. By the way they should call it a property tax, not a household charge.

Tax dodger is fair comment about people who refuse to pay their taxes.

The powers that be are telling us everything has changed. They are saying we must pay for things that hitheroe were paid for by the pre-existing tax take.

I don't understand how you're able to simply dismiss the fact that there's 450k more people on the dole and that means 450k fewer paying tax?

I would think that it is reasonable that if everything has changed like they tell us it has, then it will change across the board.

In other words if people are being forced to comply with a new tax where they are being asked to pay extra for social services, then on the other side of the fence a concerted effort should be made by those in control of the purse strings of public money to stop wasting the public's money.

There's probably no point in asking you again to give an example of this waste you think is out there so I'll ask what you think will happen if the HC isn't paid. Do you think other taxes will be increased? Do you think services will be cut?

[goatstoe]

There's probably no point in asking you again to give an example of this waste you think is out there so I'll ask what you think will happen if the HC isn't paid. Do you think other taxes will be increased? Do you think services will be cut?

I think in the end the HC will be paid and it should be paid as a property tax. I just think that the government have made a hames of introducing it and they should embark on a concerted campaign to improve value for money in the public services in tandem with the introduction of the new property tax.

[Dr. FIVE]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJvtf7hCFYE"]Departmental waste - YouTube[/ame]

[goatstoe]

http://www.independent.ie/national-n...s-3190035.html

This article outlines some examples of waste of public money. Although the figures are small enough, it all adds up in the end, and in the context of seeking extra money from people to pay for public services, principles needs to be set. They need to put a stop to this sort of thing, people are getting fed up of it.

[Baron von Biffo]

http://www.independent.ie/national-n...s-3190035.html

This article outlines some examples of waste of public money. Although the figures are small enough, it all adds up in the end, and in the context of seeking extra money from people to pay for public services, principles needs to be set. They need to put a stop to this sort of thing, people are getting fed up of it.

Damned right! Canteen me arse, let the greedy swine bring in flasks and sandwiches and eat at their desks.

I wonder if the Indo is willing to publish details of the amounts written off against tax for outfitting their offices and canteens.

[goatstoe]

Damned right! Canteen me arse, let the greedy swine bring in flasks and sandwiches and eat at their desks.

I wonder if the Indo is willing to publish details of the amounts written off against tax for outfitting their offices and canteens.

It's a 6k coffee machine, wtf do they want with a 6k coffee machine?

[Baron von Biffo]

It's a 6k coffee machine, wtf do they want with a 6k coffee machine?

What do you think should have been provided?

[goatstoe]

What do you think should have been provided?

It's not my job to decide what should be provided.

[Baron von Biffo]

It's not my job to decide what should be provided.

You're claiming that what was provided was wasteful so it's fair to ask what you think would have been appropriate.

[goatstoe]

You're claiming that what was provided was wasteful so it's fair to ask what you think would have been appropriate.

That's the answer you'd get from them. The kettle is boiling see ya later.

[Baron von Biffo]

That's the answer you'd get from them. The kettle is boiling see ya later.

So what it comes down to is, you'll say that any spending by a government department is waste.

You know that you're just confirming suspicions that your complaints about waste are just an attempt to justify tax dodging?