Waste of Resources at Local and National Level

[goatstoe]

Heard a bit of a Newstalk radio programme this morning. Some of the panelists were making the point that there are empty buildings being allowed to become derelict in main streets and thoroughfares throughout the country, including across the street from the GPO.

The point was made that in Canada among other countries, the owners of these properties would be hit with a severe dereliction tax which would force them to either fix up the property or to sell it on. Typical of the dereliction of duty from this administration, just another issue of waste they are failing to tackle.

[Baron von Biffo]

Heard a bit of a Newstalk radio programme this morning. Some of the panelists were making the point that there are empty buildings being allowed to become derelict in main streets and thoroughfares throughout the country, including across the street from the GPO.

The point was made that in Canada among other countries, the owners of these properties would be hit with a severe dereliction tax which would force them to either fix up the property or to sell it on. Typical of the dereliction of duty from this administration, just another issue of waste they are failing to tackle.

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1990/...014/index.html

[goatstoe]

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1990/...014/index.html

So there is a register for derelict properties. It doesn't appear to be helping in relation to eradicating the proliferation of derelict buildings on main thoroughfares around the country.

Can an LA take ownership of a property if a property owner shows no attempt to fix up the property or sell it on after a period of time? Can they hit these property owners with penalties and taxes if they sit on derelict properties hoping for an upturn in the market, which is what appears to be happening to me?

[Baron von Biffo]

So there is a register for derelict properties. It doesn't appear to be helping in relation to eradicating the proliferation of derelict buildings on main thoroughfares around the country.

Can an LA take ownership of a property if a property owner shows no attempt to fix up the property or sell it on after a period of time? Can they hit these property owners with penalties and taxes if they sit on derelict properties hoping for an upturn in the market, which is what appears to be happening to me?

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en...tructures.html

[goatstoe]

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en...tructures.html

Are you the designated spokesman for the civil service around here? My contention is that there doesn't appear to be adequate application of these guidelines.

[Baron von Biffo]

Are you the designated spokesman for the civil service around here?

Jayzus! You asked me a question and I tried to give you an answer.

My contention is that there doesn't appear to be adequate application of these guidelines.

My dismay is boundless.

[goatstoe]

Jayzus! You asked me a question and I tried to give you an answer.

No you didn't, you just posted links to guidelines and didn't address the point at all.

My dismay is boundless.

Your cynicism is infinite. Thanks to people with attitudes like you it takes forever and a day to bring about necessary changes in this country.

[Baron von Biffo]

No you didn't, you just posted links to guidelines and didn't address the point at all.

You were going off on one about how wonderful Canada was in relation to derelict buildings and how poor we were by comparison. Since you obviously hadn't done any research before posting I thought to help you by linking to our legislation on the subject.

In your next post you asked questions about the content of that link and rather than suggesting that you read it or google the subject, I helpfully supplied you with another link that made things even plainer.

For my pains you have a go at me. Sometimes I wonder why I bother.

Your cynicism is infinite. Thanks to people with attitudes like you it takes forever and a day to bring about necessary changes in this country.

It's people who leap into things without doing a bit of basic checking first who slow things down.

[goatstoe]

You were going off on one about how wonderful Canada was in relation to derelict buildings and how poor we were by comparison. Since you obviously hadn't done any research before posting I thought to help you by linking to our legislation on the subject.

In your next post you asked questions about the content of that link and rather than suggesting that you read it or google the subject, I helpfully supplied you with another link that made things even plainer.

Thanks for your help master of the stating the obvious. I was repeating a comment that I heard on a radio show that I felt was worthy of consideration.

You come along posting links to legislation with no comment, just links to legislation. So what if there is legislation, I think the point is being made that the legislation isn't always being acted on or that there are delays in implementing legislation perhaps.

For my pains you have a go at me. Sometimes I wonder why I bother.

Sometimes I wonder why you bother as well.

It's people who leap into things without doing a bit of basic checking first who slow things down.

Nobody is leaping into anything, I was merely raising a point for consideration.

[The Moth]

Heard a bit of a Newstalk radio programme this morning. Some of the panelists were making the point that there are empty buildings being allowed to become derelict in main streets and thoroughfares throughout the country, including across the street from the GPO.

The point was made that in Canada among other countries, the owners of these properties would be hit with a severe dereliction tax which would force them to either fix up the property or to sell it on. Typical of the dereliction of duty from this administration, just another issue of waste they are failing to tackle.

I agree 100%, owners should be made to pay higher rates for empty buildings and they would be keener to lease them instead of letting them run down and become derilict. Upward only rent leases are a major cause of the empty shops everywhere because although they are empty, the rent is still being paid because the tenant can't get out of the lease. The tenant closes the shop because the rent is so high that they can't make money and so it is cheaper to close. Or, the business has gone wallop and the guarantor is paying the rent until the lease runs out which could be in 20 years. Number 2 Grafton Street is an example of this. It has been closed for two to three years and the rent is still being paid so landlord does not care that it is empty. I think the landlord and tenant in that case are both banks. It used to be the Mortgage Store. There is the possibility of a good income stream for local authorities if they brought in increasing rates the longer a shop remains empty. Also it would force the sale of these properties allowing real values to prevail.

[Baron von Biffo]

The government is to set up a central procurement office to cut costs.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland...ar-206483.html

Expect complaints from IBEC/ISME/SFA about how government is forcing businesses to close because it's cutting margins.

[Captain Con O'Sullivan]

That will mean a new round of fewer, bigger contracts to hand out. It won't save anything. the Irish Government and public service/civil service won't miss the opportunity to get backhanders out of that and end up charging the public purse twice what it should be paying.

WIll they be bringing in CIE and FAS employees to handle the whole shebang ...?

[Dr. FIVE]

Audit of VEC procurement

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...ent/p20/a88057




Goes on & on, dear oh dear