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    The Christian Liberation Movement.
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    I understand he was very devoted to Catholicism.


    Oswaldo Payá kneeling at the feet of Blessed John Paul II

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    Ok, here is an update on the story.

    There were 4 in the car. Two Cuban opposition activists, Paya and Cepero, and two foreign politicians. The foreign politicians were Angel Caromero of the Spanish Popular Party and Jens Aron Modig of the Swedish Christian Democratic Party. The two Cubans were killed in the accident while the two foreign politicians were not badly injured. Caromero, the Spaniard, was driving the vehicle.

    The Cuban authorities have released a filmed interview of Caromero to the foreign press in which he states that there was no other vehicle involved in the accident in which he crashed into a tree at speed.

    Modig has returned to Sweden but gave a press conference in which he admitted that he had gone to Cuba (on a tourist visa) to meet dissidents and to give Paya money. He apologised for breaking Cuban law with regard to the terms of his visa.

    Carmero may be charged with manslaughter which carries a serious penalty if convicted.

    He has appealed for the International community to:

    .. please focus on getting me out of here and not to use a car accident, which could have happened to any other person, for political gain."
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    Ángel Carromero Barrios has a history of traffic violations in Spain and was about to lose his license:
    Carromero, who could face between one and 10 years in prison if convicted in Cuba, has had 45 fines handed down against him in Spain since March 2011: most of them are for illegal parking, but two are for speeding within that period.

    In the May 18 edition of the Madrid region’s official BOCM gazette, the DGT published a list of names of people who stood to lose their license if they didn’t present an appeal within 10 days. Among them was Carromero
    http://elpais.com/elpais/2012/08/03/...64_445089.html

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    Carromero is to be charged with manslaughter. The Cuban prosecutor is seeking a seven year jail sentence, according to Thursday's El País.
    http://srv00.epimg.net/pdf/elpais/1a...p-20120816.pdf

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    Carromero arrived back in Spain today to serve out his sentence under an agreement reached earlier this month between Spain and Cuba.
    http://www.eldiario.es/politica/Carr..._84691545.html

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    I love the way the OP with it's sensational assertions has disappeared.

    Airbrushed from history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Lord View Post
    I love the way the OP with it's sensational assertions has disappeared.

    Airbrushed from history.
    And it appears, all his other musings too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Lord View Post
    I love the way the OP with it's sensational assertions has disappeared.

    Airbrushed from history.
    Edited by the OP him/herself by the way
    Carromero is being welcomed back by the PP and there's already talk of a pardon.
    The joke going around on Spanish twitter is that Cuba should have employed him as a driver assigned to visiting right wingers

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5intheface View Post
    And it appears, all his other musings too.
    Instantly improving the site it has to be said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Lord View Post
    Instantly improving the site it has to be said.
    Be sadly missed...although it did take 8 months for me to notice he had deleted all his posts. High impact.
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