Battle Station: RTE 1 9.35 Monday 23rd July

[Spectabilis]

JC McQuaid's document is still chilling.

[PaddyJoe]

JC McQuaid's document is still chilling.

McCarthyism with a special Catholic twist.

[Spectabilis]

Quite so.

At least it makes us realise we have advanced in so many ways.

[Dr. FIVE]

here and there

[C. Flower]

So a Swede who had worked for US intelligence was in charge of programming in 1964

Just caught that, but not his name.

[Spectabilis]

I still have a probelem wihthMary Kenny - 'The likes of us young feminists' Not in our view - a narcissist, not a feminist. RTÉ likes to claim that it led social change, but it simply seized on movements that had the power to attract audiences. Its coverage was mostly trivialising . Doireann NI Br
hriain was an exception. I recall being part of a panel discussion on radio chaired by her. A highly intelligent woman.

[C. Flower]

I still have a probelem wihthMary Kenny - 'The likes of us young feminists' Not in our view - a narcissist, not a feminist. RTÉ likes to claim that it led social change, but it simply seized on movements that had the power to attract audiences. Its coverage was mostly trivialising . Doireann NI Brhriain was an exception. I recall being part of a panel discussion on radio chaired by her. A highly intelligent woman.

Interesting, and Mary Kenny does come over as ego-driven still, but I think that for something to be broadcast on RTE brought it into the realms of what most people felt could comfortably and legitimately be discussed.

[Spectabilis]

That's true. But then the discussion descended into the trivial. Not at all what the ordinary thousands of women in the women's movement were discussing and campaigning for. Profound issues like violence against women and children, marital rape, and pay inequalities got minimised behind phrases like 'bra burning' (for which there is no evidence) and militant feminists ( not a bomb to rattle among us).

A very doubtful boon to women.

[C. Flower]

That's true. But then the discussion descended into the trivial. Not at all what the ordinary thousands of women in the women's movement were discussing and campaigning for. Profound issues like violence against women and children, marital rape, and pay inequalities got minimised behind phrases like 'bra burning' (for which there is no evidence) and militant feminists ( not a bomb to rattle among us).

A very doubtful boon to women.

Yes. It all boiled down to Nell McCafferty, drunk, acting herself, after a while.

[Spectabilis]

Poor Nell.
I got very fed up with anti-feminists picking up on the media shorthand of Nell=Feminist. I was, however eternally grateful to her at a time ('80s) when academics were trojan workers in the women's movement and got a lot of flak for using words of more than one syllable. Nell, who had great cred with working class women said at one of our conferences ( please imagine her unforgettable accent and delivery) 'What the hell is wrong with youse? Yiz can all say marmalade and corrugated, so stop this now'

[C. Flower]

Poor Nell.
I got very fed up with anti-feminists picking up on the media shorthand of Nell=Feminist. I was, however eternally grateful to her at a time ('80s) when academics were trojan workers in the women's movement and got a lot of flak for using words of more than one syllable. Nell, who had great cred with working class women said at one of our conferences ( please imagine her unforgettable accent and delivery) 'What the hell is wrong with youse? Yiz can all say marmalade and corrugated, so stop this now'

Laziness of the media. Like Joe Higgins = the Socialist.

[toxic avenger]

Cue articles in the Sunday Independent about how crap Bowman is for not mentioning how great Harris and Caden were.

I think John Paul McCarthy already wrote that article about Bowman's book...

[Dr. FIVE]

Part two

Too many cranks and whingers on telly says lemass

[Andrew49]

RTE in a very self-congratulatory programme. Dashing off to Vietnam and Biafra in the 1960s to gives us the lowdown on man's inhumanity to man. All very laudable but did they ever tackle the inhumanity on their own doorstep?

They did witness, film and broadcast some of this without .. without ANY comment ... as if it was of no concern at all.

The truth of the matter was that RTE were pandering to the Irish middle-class who were Catholic and conservative; and programmes on faraway places were better on their stomachs than programmes on the sordid nature of Irish society.

[goatstoe]

They're glossing over the over the top censorship of Section 31. Still a touchy subject and still very complicated.