The Right to Bear Arms

[riposte]

Iced T says the right to bear arms has nothing to do with hunting ..... it's to protect yourself from the police.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GwIbyp4xBU"]Rapper Ice T on US gun control (20July12) - YouTube[/ame]

[joekilgobinet]

The right to bear arms is the reason why any phsyco, madman, nutter, serial killer can get their hands on fire arms.
I hate the excuse trotted out by gun lobby, its not guns that kill, but people.
Balderdash.

[Holly]

People with guns kill.

[Garibaldy]

The right to bear arms historically has been exactly about protecting yourself from a tyrannical government. In the case of the US, there is an obvious link with the militia regiments that fought in the Revolutionary War. The idea of the citizen-soldier armed in defence of his homeland and of his rights goes back to ancient times, and was prominent in the conception of republican citizenship of people like Machiavelli. The American version - or indeed the Irish Volunteer version at the same time - has its roots in this type of thinking, and the sans-culottes believed in the right to bear arms too. Switzerland is the most obvious example of this today.

Ice T's version is an updated version of the reason for the right to bear arms, so in some senses he's perfectly in line with American political tradition, and earlier examples of the revolutionary tradition.

[Baron von Biffo]

The right to bear arms historically has been exactly about protecting yourself from a tyrannical government. In the case of the US, there is an obvious link with the militia regiments that fought in the Revolutionary War. The idea of the citizen-soldier armed in defence of his homeland and of his rights goes back to ancient times, and was prominent in the conception of republican citizenship of people like Machiavelli. The American version - or indeed the Irish Volunteer version at the same time - has its roots in this type of thinking, and the sans-culottes believed in the right to bear arms too. Switzerland is the most obvious example of this today.

Ice T's version is an updated version of the reason for the right to bear arms, so in some senses he's perfectly in line with American political tradition, and earlier examples of the revolutionary tradition.

As they found out at Waco and Ruby Ridge, the state will always have more guns.

[Trow]

Iced T says the right to bear arms has nothing to do with hunting ..... it's to protect yourself from the police.

Rapper Ice T on US gun control (20July12) - YouTube

Guilty conscience? [Ice T i mean]

Ice T's body language in the video above makes him look unneasy. Scratching at the arm pit, twitching, hand going up t shirt, facial expression.

Full of crap me thinks.

[fluffybiscuits]

As they found out at Waco and Ruby Ridge, the state will always have more guns.

+1

There is a few faults with the American way of thinking on gun culture. The National Rifle Association has been telling Americans that they do have a right to bear arms (which they do, no one disputes that its in the constitution) however this right harks back to a time when there was a civil war. Propoents of gun legislation are also calling the right to bear arms for defence which is more of a shoot now and ask questions later (Trayvon Martin comes to mind). They have even gone so far as to set up a defence fund to (http://www.nradefensefund.org/about-us.aspx) to come to the aid of people whom are "defending their right to bear arms". Look at American foreign policy, its aggressive and undiplomatic at the best hence this ties in with the gun culture that seems so pervasive...