JFK assassination conspiracy

[Maximus]

Do honestly believe in black and white that Lee Harvey Oswald, a deranged lone gunman, killed JFK on November 22nd 1963 and that's it? This was the story published by the government appointed Warren Commission of the 1960s and I for one don't believe it. Having watched plenty of videos, books and articles concerning the JFK assassination I have come to believe that if Oswald may or may not have done it and if he did he wasn't a lone gunman. Acoustics evidence has placed gunshots in Dealey Plaza on that day from the grassy knoll as well as from the direction of the School Book depository. From what I have read, I believe rogue elements from the CIA, mafia, secret service and other groups came together to eliminate Kennedy. Oswald may have used by them. The CIA because Kennedy was seen as light on Cuba and Communism, the mafia as JFK and his brother were bringing the mob to court. And why would Jack Ruby, a mob man, kill Oswald when the Kennedy administration was coming down on the mafia? Cos he allegedly felt sympathy for Jackie Kennedy? Yeah right. And the secret service...well those guys abandoned the rear of motorcade just before the assassination. Coincidence? Hardly.

It's the mother of all conspiracy theories that will probably never get closure.

[Holly]

Conspiracy theories are a dime a dozen. The easiest explanation is that Lee Oswald was the lone assassin. I too have watched entertaining programs offering alternative theories but they often had falsehoods and wild conjecture. There is no acoustic evidence which places gunshots from the grassy knoll. In the confusion, people did not know for sure where the shots were coming from.

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[Trow]

Acoustics evidence has placed gunshots in Dealey Plaza

Echo?

[bernadette]

I've never believed that Oswald acted alone, and the entrance of Ruby suggests there was a serious Mafia connection.

[Maximus]

There is no acoustic evidence which places gunshots from the grassy knoll. In the confusion, people did not know for sure where the shots were coming from.
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If you read Anthony Summers' Kennedy Conspiracy you'll find there is proof of gunshots from the grassy knoll. The Congress Assassinations Committee recognised this in 1979.

[Maximus]

I've never believed that Oswald acted alone, and the entrance of Ruby suggests there was a serious Mafia connection.

Exactly. As I said in the OP, Ruby hardly did it cos he felt sorry for Jackie Kennedy and didn't want to watch a gruelling court case involving Oswald. Ruby was a mafia man and the Kennedy administration were trying to take the mafia out. The fact Ruby shot Oswald makes it a conspiracy.

[Holly]

If you read Anthony Summers' Kennedy Conspiracy you'll find there is proof of gunshots from the grassy knoll. The Congress Assassinations Committee recognised this in 1979.

In 1964, the Warren Commission concluded that only three shots were fired — all from behind the President, all from the Texas School Book Depository, all from the bolt-action rifle of Lee Harvey Oswald. End of story. (Beginning of conspiracy-theory industry.) In 1979, an investigation conducted by Congress's House Assassinations Committee disagreed — a fourth shot, which missed, had been fired from behind a white picket fence on that grassy knoll. In 1982, however, a special panel of the National Academy of Sciences insisted the fourth shot was random background noise, probably static.

The Presidential limousine was passing a grassy knoll on the north side of Elm Street at the moment of the fatal head shot. As the motorcade left the plaza, police officers and spectators ran up the knoll and from a railroad bridge over Elm Street (the Triple Underpass), to the area behind a five-foot (1.5 m) high stockade fence atop the knoll, separating it from a parking lot. No sniper was found.(Warren Commission Hearings, Testimony of Clyde Haygood) S. M. Holland, who had been watching the motorcade on the Triple Underpass, testified that "immediately" after the shots were fired, he went around the corner where the overpass joined the fence but did not see anyone running from the area.(Warren Commission Hearings, vol. 6, pp. 244–245, Testimony of S. M. Holland) Lee Bowers, a railroad switchman sitting in a two-story tower, had an unobstructed view of the rear of the stockade fence atop the grassy knoll during the shooting. He saw a total of four men in the area between his tower and Elm Street: a middle-aged man and a younger man, standing 10 to 15 feet (3.0 to 4.6 m) apart near the Triple Underpass, who did not seem to know each other, and one or two uniformed parking lot attendants. At the time of the shooting, he saw "something out of the ordinary, a sort of milling around," which he could not identify. Bowers testified that one or both of the men were still there when motorcycle officer Clyde Haygood ran up the grassy knoll to the back of the fence. In a 1966 interview, Bowers clarified that the two men he saw were standing in the opening between the pergola and the fence, and that "no one" was behind the fence at the time the shots were fired. (Transcript of filmed interview of Lee Bowers, Jr., p.124, Roll GH600, from Rush to Judgment, in the papers of Emile de Antonio, Wisconsin Historical Society Archives)

[Trow]

It's the mother of all conspiracy theories that will probably never get closure.

[QUOTE=Maximus;260473 The fact Ruby shot Oswald makes it a conspiracy.[/QUOTE]

Conspiracy to what?

In your view why would the Mafia via Ruby shoot the man who shot their enemy?

[joekilgobinet]

If you read Anthony Summers' Kennedy Conspiracy you'll find there is proof of gunshots from the grassy knoll. The Congress Assassinations Committee recognised this in 1979.

Anthony Summers' book is brilliant.
Gary Mack, who runs Texas School book depositry Museum, is always trying to prove the lone gunman theory. In any documentary I've seen with him, he's forever rubbishing any other theory, but the Lee Harvey Oswald one.

[Baron von Biffo]

My own, possibly controversial, theory is that Ursula Halligan went back in time and took him out with a flower pot.

[Apjp]

Castro says in his book that shortly before the death of Kennedy that he got a message from an intermediary that Kennedy wanted to talk soon to 'resume relations' probably with a view to ending/reducing the blockade in return for the withdrawal of some or all of the nuclear weapons. He also says that under the circumstances of what Kennedy inherited he was glad that he managed to limit the US armies actions to a blockade.

We'll probably never know why Kennedy was killed but we do know a lot of people probably had it in for him. First, or second gunman, who knows, but it will never be known who ordered the killing and why.

[bernadette]

My own, possibly controversial, theory is that Ursula Halligan went back in time and took him out with a flower pot.

+10

Perfect except poor Ursula did not trip the flower pot man up.

[Griska]

JFK was shot in Texas.
Some geezer was recreationally shooting at squirrels or possibly black folk nearby, and that's where the extra shots angle come into play.

Please disregard all other theories, because that is EXACTLY what happened.

Shooting squirrels is legal in Texas.
Shooting black folk appears to be still legal in Florida.
Not sure where the Texans stand on that matter today.

[Dr. FIVE]

It's a bit like Jack the Ripper in so far as whoever is presenting the evidence can leave you in doubt that their theory is the correct one. However we do know there wasn't much a jump between shady government forces > the mob/Vegas > The Sands/Ratpack > Lawford/Kennedy and back round again.

If it was the mob it's not unlikely they were sanctioned by a higher power

[Griska]

It's a bit like Jack the Ripper in so far as whoever is presenting the evidence can leave you in doubt that their theory is the correct one. However we do know there wasn't much a jump between shady government forces > the mob/Vegas > The Sands/Ratpack > Lawford/Kennedy and back round again.

If it was the mob it's not unlikely they were sanctioned by a higher power

Geezer shooting squirrels or black folk.
Please pay attention, my good doctor.