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Thread: Irish Government-Five EU Submissions to try to change Fiscal Compact Treaty-Stops EU Release of Papers

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    Default Re: Irish Government-Five EU Submissions to try to change Fiscal Compact Treaty-Stops EU Release of Papers

    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    The whole EU project has been miss-sold.

    It was never a Union of citizens and was always about rolling back social and economic gains made by the working class (including "middle class" people who work) post WW2.
    The most ridiculous thing though is how to oppose further integration, or certain past/present measures by the EU is to be anti europe. It's such a ridiculous label. You cannot be anti asia but you can be anti europe. If you oppose the further centralisation of decision making and the removal further still of basic freedoms/rights for citizens, be they rights of information, economic rights etc. you are seen as a nationalist. This was something I encountered on the rare occasion a German friend might bring up politics. Curiously only Germans ever told me I was being 'nationalist'(an understandable phobia of their's). 2 very good German friends study Journalism and European Governance. I do wonder why some of these people study 'european and international governance'. Do they want to govern others? In my experience, Austrians seem to be far better at weighing up the situation and less judgemental and begrudging of others opinions. Germans are nice people, but they're not stupid and they're out for themselves.

    I'm all for ties with other countries but my time in 'europe' over the last year only convinced me further of the need to exit the eu. Norway and Iceland are doing alright. Ireland needs to stand on its own two feet if we ever want to stop being a banana republic/colony of brussels.

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    Default Re: Irish Government-Five EU Submissions to try to change Fiscal Compact Treaty-Stops EU Release of Papers

    Quote Originally Posted by Greengoddess View Post
    What?
    It's alright. I read further on that you would get on it. I wasn't being smart. We could do with a bit of truth here and MEPs might be able to access these things which would be good for the rest of us. Mightn't hurt their re-election chances either.

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    Default Re: Irish Government-Five EU Submissions to try to change Fiscal Compact Treaty-Stops EU Release of Papers

    Quote Originally Posted by Greengoddess View Post
    My assistant will be making inroads into this on Monday.
    Any update?
    As a general rule the most successful man in life is the man who has the best information. Benjamin Disraeli
    Secrecy is for losers. For people who do not know how important the information really is.
    Daniel Patrick Moynihan - Secrecy: The American Experience (1998)

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