Public Accounts Committee framework for a Banking Inquiry

[Baron von Biffo]

McGuinness also blames civil servants but fails to mention his former boss(es), or Lenihan

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/an...y-3161466.html

Dead Lenny may not be criticised. The fact that he was a lush and a liar and the chair of the junior coalition partner reckoned that he was off his head on medication during the crisis are all irrelevant.

[Captain Con O'Sullivan]

Another Nyland- Lenihan snowfest. They are saying straight up front that cabinet confidentiality won't be breached by the inquiry which means the decision to guarantee and what representations were made by bankers and others on the night of the guarantee won't come into it.

So effectively they are proposing as usual to wander around the three-card trick that is the Irish judicial landscape, spend a lot of public money and release the political version of Nyland II at the end of it.

And why would they be proposing to hold a PAC inquiry when we still haven't had the Garda report into the banking inquiry?

[DCon]

Seems to me that FG & Lab want to play Pin the blame on FF and FF want to play Pin the blame on the Civil Service

[Baron von Biffo]

Seems to me that FG & Lab want to play Pin the blame on FF and FF want to play Pin the blame on the Civil Service

And no-one wants to play Find the Truth.

[PaddyJoe]

Rabbite suggests that we need to rerun a couple of referendums. I wonder if he passed that by Gilmore and the US Embassy?

A SENIOR Minister has called for a rerun of the referendum on parliamentary inquiries to ensure there is a proper investigation into the banking collapse.

Minister for Energy and Communications Pat Rabbitte said yesterday that he would like to see the issue put before the people again in a calm and considered manner.

Mr Rabbitte told The Irish Times that the wording of the amendment rejected by the Irish people last October would probably need to be modified to take account of the concerns that led to the No vote.

“I am in favour of the Government seeking to run again a referendum that would give a parliamentary committee the proper investigative powers to get to the bottom of what happened in the banks.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...ce=twitterfeed

[Dr. FIVE]

No where has anyone put forward a reason why politicians should do it. No one. All we are getting is the choice of that or nothing. So cynical.

McGuinness is going to drag Fianna Fáil and their golf buddies through the mud is he?, me arse

[riposte]

No where has anyone put forward a reason why politicians should do it. No one. All we are getting is the choice of that or nothing. So cynical.

McGuinness is going to drag Fianna Fáil and their golf buddies through the mud is he?, me arse

The politicians should do it beause the judiciary are lazy, greedy and corrupt.

McGuinness was Cowan's most vociferous critic for two years prior to the collapse of Fianna Fail.

[Dr. FIVE]

The politicians should do it because the judiciary are lazy, greedy and corrupt.

As are politcians who also /or more so have an eye on their seat

McGuinness was Cowan's most vociferous critic for two years prior to the collapse of Fianna Fail.

Was and still is a member of Fianna Fáil

[riposte]

As are politcians who also /or more so have an eye on their seat

Politicians can be removed .... judges stay on until senility ...and take up to 14 years to produce nonsense ......at a cost of hundreds of millions.

Brendan Howlin is clearly engaged in a cover-up.

[Dr. FIVE]

14 years to produce nonsense ......at a cost of hundreds of millions.

A process initiated by politicians

[riposte]

A process initiated by politicians

Yeah ...... but that was 14 years ago ...... when we were all young and foolish...... and unaware of how lazy, greedy and corrupt the judiciary are.

[Stanley 2]

IMO, Peter Kelly and Eliz Dunne are both playing stormers at the moment, Moriarty and Mahon have both produced excellent Reports but there is no political will to implement them as they were designed by politicians to be toothless when they got to the end.

Peter Kelly is giving Brian O'Donnell a strong dose of tough love in the Courts but has been very fair to him, Dunne's patience with the Quinns is extraordinary, would fancy in many other jurisidictions these lads would be doing porridge.

[Baron von Biffo]

No where has anyone put forward a reason why politicians should do it. No one. All we are getting is the choice of that or nothing. So cynical.

McGuinness is going to drag Fianna Fáil and their golf buddies through the mud is he?, me arse

An appearance before an Oireachtas committee where politicians have no objective beyond the lead slot on SixOne would go a long way to ensuring that prosecutions could never happen. Some very powerful people would have an interest in that outcome.

In the longer term, giving such powers to politicians could be useful to the same sort of people. Wouldn't it be very handy for someone who controlled significant sections of the media to be able to report on a 'controversy' surrounding a rival and have a committee of politicians 'investigate' that controversy?

Would politicians who depend on favourable media coverage be able to resist coming to the conclusions that the media owner wanted?

No rational person with an interest in justice would agree to giving quasi judicial powers to politicians.

[Baron von Biffo]

IMO, Peter Kelly and Eliz Dunne are both playing stormers at the moment, Moriarty and Mahon have both produced excellent Reports but there is no political will to implement them as they were designed by politicians to be toothless when they got to the end.

Peter Kelly is giving Brian O'Donnell a strong dose of tough love in the Courts but has been very fair to him, Dunne's patience with the Quinns is extraordinary, would fancy in many other jurisidictions these lads would be doing porridge.

Judges operate the law of the land. Politicians operate the law of the jungle.

[riposte]

Moriarty and Mahon have both produced excellent Reports

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I have them hanging in my privy.