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    The IT reports this morning that FG's Brian Hayes used his travel allowance, worth €1,000 per month, to cover the costs of his travel throughout the country in his capacity as Fine Gael education spokesman.
    Mr Hayes told The Irish Times yesterday: “My understanding in opposition was that it was for use for travelling in your own constituency, but also for travel throughout the country in your role as a public representative.

    “I was the party spokesman on education and went to universities, institutes and schools throughout the State to meet people, to attend meetings, to listen to people. I was getting no money from the party for that. I used my allowance for that.

    “To suggest that it does not cover travel and accommodation costs for politicians in terms of doing their public duty is, in my view, bizarre.”
    A couple of questions.
    Is this going to get the kind of forensic coverage from the Indo that Joe Higgins and Clare Daly have been honored with?
    Are there any jounalists out there writing to all members of the Oireachtas asking whether they have used this allowance solely for travel between their constituencies and the Oireachtas?

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...319429077.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaddyJoe View Post
    The IT reports this morning that FG's Brian Hayes used his travel allowance, worth €1,000 per month, to cover the costs of his travel throughout the country in his capacity as Fine Gael education spokesman.

    A couple of questions.
    Is this going to get the kind of forensic coverage from the Indo that Joe Higgins and Clare Daly have been honored with?
    Are there any jounalists out there writing to all members of the Oireachtas asking whether they have used this allowance solely for travel between their constituencies and the Oireachtas?

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...319429077.html
    If not, why not ?

    We have a list of TDs emails and perhaps each of us writing to our own TDs might produce some results?

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    If Hayes could use his expenses to travel the country, then surely TD's who use it solely to get to the Dail and back, and trek around their Constituency begging for votes, should return the unused portion.

    If the allowance is large enough to allow one TD travel the Nation then it is too large for those not doing so
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaddyJoe View Post
    The IT reports this morning that FG's Brian Hayes used his travel allowance, worth €1,000 per month, to cover the costs of his travel throughout the country in his capacity as Fine Gael education spokesman.
    Despite what the FG hacks who hijacked Wikipedia claim, we don't have an official opposition or a shadow cabinet in this country. Party front bench positions have no official status. If Alfalfa was travelling as FG education spokesman he should have funded his own travel or had FG pick up the tab.


    Quote Originally Posted by PaddyJoe View Post
    A couple of questions.
    Is this going to get the kind of forensic coverage from the Indo that Joe Higgins and Clare Daly have been honored with?
    'FG TD fiddles expenses' is a bit of a 'Dog Bites Man' story so it probably hasn't the same news appeal as when TDs who make a huge issue of their financial probity are caught eh, testing the elasticity of the regulations.

    At this stage the sheer arrogance of Higgins and Daly and their indignation at being held to account is a bigger story than the few quid involved.

    Quote Originally Posted by PaddyJoe View Post
    Are there any jounalists out there writing to all members of the Oireachtas asking whether they have used this allowance solely for travel between their constituencies and the Oireachtas?

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...319429077.html
    Finding a journalist who isn't doing what you ask would likely be a simpler task.
    Last edited by Baron von Biffo; 05-07-2012 at 12:58 PM. Reason: Added link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCon View Post
    If Hayes could use his expenses to travel the country, then surely TD's who use it solely to get to the Dail and back, and trek around their Constituency begging for votes, should return the unused portion.
    They're supposed to but the Doherty defence is very easy.

    Quote Originally Posted by DCon View Post
    If the allowance is large enough to allow one TD travel the Nation then it is too large for those not doing so
    Wouldn't it be great if this parade of expenses scandals triggered a proper debate on how we fund politics rather than how can we cut a few quid from TDs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCon View Post
    If Hayes could use his expenses to travel the country, then surely TD's who use it solely to get to the Dail and back, and trek around their Constituency begging for votes, should return the unused portion.

    If the allowance is large enough to allow one TD travel the Nation then it is too large for those not doing so

    Dcon ..... I think this issue has come to the fore since TDS were required to vouch for their expenses ..... which Higgins and Daly did .... making it visible to the Indo journalists... while other TDS have not claimed any travel expenses. There is no question of them all getting the same amount.
    Last edited by riposte; 05-07-2012 at 02:11 PM.
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    Gump is being evasive on the matter of Hayes using constituency expenses for national party activities. "I didn't read the papers" he said when asked about it.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...319512830.html

    If he had a a genuine interest in standards in public office his reply would have been "The former junior minister will repay all the money".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Biffo View Post
    Gump is being evasive on the matter of Hayes using constituency expenses for national party activities. "I didn't read the papers" he said when asked about it.
    must be a recent thing


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    They have opened a barrel of worms in this one.
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    Hayes.
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    IT reports that Creighton is being heavily considered to replace him on the next ticket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo View Post
    IT reports that Creighton is being heavily considered to replace him on the next ticket.
    She was gushing on twitter on what a wonderful human being, and politician, Hayes is
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