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    Default Re: Eamonn Gilmore tells us its time gay marriage...

    Quote Originally Posted by Monetpenny View Post
    Fluffy,
    But when a TD looks at this, how does he decide what is right?
    Is it right that he supports civil rights or is it right that he gives himself the best chance of being re-elected?
    A politician's raison d'être is to get re-elected.
    If I was the political advisor to a mature rural TD I would advise him to limpet to the RCC, denounce the abomination of homosexuality, raise hysteria about farmers losing their holdings to gay fellows with tight trousers & no socks from the cities & oppose gay marriage.
    It is a completely different situation for younger urban TDs.
    I believe there is a significant urban/rural divide on this issue or more accurately TDs will convince themselves that it is an urban/rural issue & they will do what is advantageous to them.

    This fight will get nasty.
    It should not be.
    It should not even be a fight.
    I don't believe there is any need for a debate.

    But the RCC have not gone away.
    It is one thing covering up deviant priests but it is another thing entirely keeping quiet on gay marriage.
    The RCC have been in the scaremongering business since its inception & to show it has any modern relevance & a future in Ireland it will vehemently oppose this proposal.

    The superstitious who habitually attend veneration will follow suit & oppose gay marriage.

    I hope you win the fight & as of now I think you will.
    But the unknown quantity is how undignified the RCC & rural conservatism will get.
    The fight has just had its battle lines drawn. As we saw from the Fine Gwael camp Inda wont be drawn into giving an opinion, Lucinda "I cant make my mind up" Creighton seems to have had her arse torn apart sitting on the fence for so long and Varadker amazingly said something sensible and supported it. Labour are split evenly but this I would imagine is a division that is along generational lines. Then there is the public institutions like the sickeningly cat-licky Iona Institute banging pots and pans and turning down their hearing aid when the pro gay marriage speak up.

    Read the article below

    http://ionainstitute.com/index.php?id=84

    Why its best for a man and a woman to bring up a child ? Later on I will demolish that with counter evidence....
    They may crush the flowers, and trample every living thing but they cant stop the spring..

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    Default Re: Eamonn Gilmore tells us its time gay marriage...

    Seems to me that catholic teaching on family is largely to protect the church and the well being of everything else comes further down the list, as always.
    It is at the heart of everything as far as I can see.

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