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    24 Children in State care are dead....all on Mary Harney's watch, and she's STILL Minister for Health. What does it take???

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    I've said it before and I'll say it again - every child in State care needs a Guardian Ad Litem. Currently, these positions are only allowed for qualified Social Workers - but why do you need to be a qualified Social Worker to ensure that a child's needs are being met by the State? Why couldn't you or I do it? If I had responsibility for only one child - on a voluntary basis even, then I could be making the necessary phone calls to ensure that that child was tucked up somewhere safe in a bed at night, that s/he had a worthwhile occupation throughout the day, and was able to access whatever services s/he needed.

    Its not f'ing rocket science.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murra View Post
    I've said it before and I'll say it again - every child in State care needs a Guardian Ad Litem. Currently, these positions are only allowed for qualified Social Workers - but why do you need to be a qualified Social Worker to ensure that a child's needs are being met by the State? Why couldn't you or I do it? If I had responsibility for only one child - on a voluntary basis even, then I could be making the necessary phone calls to ensure that that child was tucked up somewhere safe in a bed at night, that s/he had a worthwhile occupation throughout the day, and was able to access whatever services s/he needed.

    Its not f'ing rocket science.
    I agree. They need an adoptive aunty, uncle, or grandparent.

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    There is a program in the USA called Big Brothers, which facilitates people who want to help disadvantaged children, not financially, but with moral support. It could easily be set up here.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Brothers

    But irish people wont bother helping their fellow citizen because theyre expecting the nanny state to do it for them. Socialism disincentivises charity and self help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C Flower View Post
    I agree. They need an adoptive aunty, uncle, or grandparent.
    This State is, and always has been a danger to children in need of care. Daniel's life and subsequent murder bears this out.

    I think it's time to re-define (or define) the family in the Constitution... to include parents, siblings, grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins even .... and the local community from which the child/children come from.

    Child care isn't rocket science as Murra stated.

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    Children need to be protected by people who really do care for them and who are prepared to deal with a lot of problems and come back for more. The HSE apparently know this boy was at serious risk and it appears nothing effective was done. One in four children at risk doesn't even have a social worker. There seems to be a culture of writing off children who hit a really difficult patch.

    If you haven't got money you are nothing in this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C Flower View Post
    The HSE apparently know this boy was at serious risk and it appears nothing effective was done. One in four children at risk doesn't even have a social worker. There seems to be a culture of writing off children who hit a really difficult patch.
    Exactly. And that proves that stated owned organisations like the HSE dont work. And they never will. Give the job to private sector social workers and NGOs and theyll do a better job for less money.

    Quote Originally Posted by C Flower View Post
    If you haven't got money you are nothing in this country.
    Exactly, right. Thats why everyone wants a public sector job. So they can be wealthy, with a great lifestyle. Public sector "workers" are the richest group in the country. All paid for by gouging taxes out of the working poor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C Flower View Post
    I agree. They need an adoptive aunty, uncle, or grandparent.
    I agree. Time to define or re-define the family in the Constitution.

    Daniel McAnaspie, the first child to be killed while in State care, ran not from his family, they say, but from the system that was supposed to look after him. The voices calling for that system to change are growing louder and louder.A white candle in his aunt Ann-Marie’s home in Ballymun, in north Dublin, bears his picture and a few lines from the Snow Patrol song Run:
    “Rise up, Rise up / As if you have a choice / Even if you cannot hear my voice / I’ll be right beside you, dear.”
    Jangling noises punctuate the silences and the conversation in this well-kept house: big jewellery in the ears of Daniel’s sisters and his aunts. Bangles on their arms. Keys in their hands, twisted unconsciously, as they tell the story of the short life of their brother and their nephew, who went missing from Blanchardstown, on the northern edge of Dublin, and was found, having been stabbed to death, last weekend in a ditch in Co Meath.

    Nerves. They jangle so much that at one point his sister Cathriona McAnaspie says quietly that she
    “can’t do this any more”.
    It’s not just Daniel’s story she is telling. Most of the McAnaspie family have experience of the care system, and some of them had to care for Daniel themselves under difficult circumstances when the HSE could not find a place for him, which was often.

    IN THE YEAR BEFORE Daniel died, the family estimate, he was in 20 different care placements. There were many times he had to use the out-of-hours service, waiting at night in Garda stations for a bed to be free. The family began to worry about his welfare even more than usual. Three weeks before he went missing Cathriona and Ann-Marie went to a meeting with the HSE about their younger sister. “Daniel came up in the conversation because that weekend he again had nowhere to go. We said:
    ‘Something is going to happen to him out on the streets. You need to get him in somewhere permanent; he needs help’
    . . . I asked for Daniel to be locked up, not somewhere rough but somewhere he could get the help he needed. They said places like that ‘didn’t meet Daniel’s needs’,” says Cathriona, an intelligent and articulate young woman who can’t keep silent on the subject of her brother for long.

    “We were worried about him. They said he wasn’t wild enough to be locked up, but every placement he had been in had broken down because Daniel would do something – break a window or something. He was never violent to staff, never, but if he wasn’t in trouble then why did they take him out of all those placements? Daniel would have been 18 this year, I think that they were waiting for that day to come so they could say: ‘Daniel, you are 18 now. There you go: you are another street boy. You go on, take drugs, do whatever. Our doors are closed to you now.’ Basically, that’s what I think was going on.”
    SHE HAS ANOTHER THEORY based on her experiences in the care system.
    “I am not dissing good children, but the way I see it the HSE stick with good kids and the bad kids they don’t want to know. They did it with me. They didn’t want to know me . . . I could have been on drugs today. They just let me go out the door instead of saying ‘Look, we can do this’ or ‘We can do that’ or ‘We can make a plan.’ ”
    The family say that in the months leading up to his death a social worker, with the backing of local gardaí, had been trying to get Daniel into a residential home in Sweden for troubled children.
    “Daniel really wanted to go – it would have been a new life – but the HSE fought against that in court. They say that in recent times Daniel was calling out for help. That he knew when he turned 18 he would be on his own.
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    Primetime, on now, says up to 200 children may have died in HSE "care" in the last 24 years. They don't even know how many.

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    Any chance of dragging Irelands Health Service ( For want of a better word(s?) into the 19th century
    vanished when the snivelling classes did their usual "yes Your Eminence, No your Eminence" response to McQuaids belt of the crozier to Noel Browns Mother and Child Bill.

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    I wonder why questions was directed at Minister Andrews BUt it should be directed at Minister for Health AND children??

    Why isn't the media commenting on M Harney and her responsibilities for children. She hadn't said a peep on this for the last two years.

    WAKE up Media!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by disability student View Post
    I wonder why questions was directed at Minister Andrews BUt it should be directed at Minister for Health AND children??

    Why isn't the media commenting on M Harney and her responsibilities for children. She hadn't said a peep on this for the last two years.

    WAKE up Media!!!!!
    Also, the Director of Services for Children never does interviews always the deputy. Sick leave or what ? Why does RTE accept without telling us these people refused to be interviewed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C Flower View Post
    Also, the Director of Services for Children never does interviews always the deputy. Sick leave or what ? Why does RTE accept without telling us these people refused to be interviewed.
    Can you tell us who is the director of services for children?? Who is his or her deputy??

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    CF,

    see here re Mary Harney's department title :http://www.dohc.ie/

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    THE Health Service Executive last night finally admitted 37 children died in its care over the past decade - significantly more than the 23 quoted by Minister for Health Mary Harney and senior HSE managers just 24 hours before!

    But a fresh controversy erupted as those figures were immediately disputed, raising fears that the number will continue to rise. It emerged that two high-profile deaths were not included. The deaths of Daniel McAnaspie and Danny Talbot would push the figure to 39.

    The 'official figures' from the HSE showed:

    * Five children died by suicide.
    * Five were drug related.
    * Two were unlawful killings.
    * Three died in road traffic accidents.
    * Three died in other accidents.

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    What's the matter with 'official' Ireland ? There's a cold-heartedness from them on this issue and it's all very reminiscent of the previous regime.
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