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    22 minute vid of the May 1, launch and recapture. Launch begins at about the 10 min mark, and 12 minutes later the rocket lands upright.

    http://www.spacex.com/webcast
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    That'd be the launch of this mysterious spy satellite? ^^
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    30 minutes from Noo Yawk to Gay Paree at regular economy prices, gotta love it.........


    Elon Musk talked Mars. The SpaceX CEO said the upcoming BFR rocket will be just one booster and ship, and replace the Falcon 9, Falcon Heavy, and Dragon. The BFR will be able to service the ISS and reach Mars, he said. Musk also teased plans to fly people anywhere on earth—by rocket—in an hour.
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    Meanwhile SpaceX has had 17 successful rocket launches so far this year.........becoming routine........
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    Elon Musk......nope...he ain't all he's cracked up to be:




    AND MAN...does he like his government subsidy:

    A study published two years ago by The Los Angeles Times revealed that just three of Musk’s ventures – SolarCity Corp. (which manufactured and installed solar energy systems before its 2016 merger with Tesla Motors Inc.), Tesla Motors Inc. (which manufactures electric vehicles), and Space Exploration Technologies Corp., known as SpaceX (which builds rocket ships) – had received $4.9 billion in government subsidies to that point in time. By now, Musk’s various ventures have sucked well over $5 billion from government coffers.
    From here:

    http://beta.latimes.com/business/la-...531-story.html

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    And more:

    But granting literally billions of dollars in taxpayer subsidies to Musk’s firms isn’t the worst of it. No, that honorific is reserved for this little gem: In order to induce car buyers to spend their money on electric vehicles, the federal government offers a $7,500 rebate on the purchase price.

    Some states enhance that rebate with rebates of their own. In California, for instance, purchasers of electric vehicles get a state-funded rebate of $2,500 more.

    There’s a phrase for that – it’s called “crony capitalism.” And it stinks.
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    All old hat eamo. This article demonstrates that the government/taxpayer saves up to $350M every time they use SpaceX as opposed to ULA, the only viable alternative, to launch a satellite. 15 launches recovers $5B.


    https://arstechnica.com/science/2017...launch-prices/



    Granting EV credits is not confined to the US, nor is it in Musk's control. It's a gummint policy decision. I'd rather Musk benefit from the money than OPEC etc. He'll put it to better use.
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    That ars technica site looks really informative. Serious articles on science stuff written in an easier to understand manner than the specialised scientific journals and papers.
    The company that owns ars technica has recently dis-continued hiring unpaid and lowpaid interns. I could not find out was that because they found them a nuisance or they felt it was exploitation.

    Anyway, it is not as clear-cut as you suggest. There is informed suspicion that SpaceX are loosing money on each launch just to get into the game. Also ULA are paid a bonus, a retainer might be the word, just to be always ready to launch at short notice. This is for national security reasons.
    SpaceX would not have got where they are without the support and approval of the US state. Maybe because they dont like relying only on ULA or maybe they think ULA were overcharging, or maybe they think having two rivals will spur innovation. Who knows. At that level I am sure there are wheels within wheels and few things are as they seem on the surface.

    Elon Musk seems like Michael O'Leary on a grander scale and not as obnoxious, and like Ryan Air, SpaceX would not exist without government help. They both like to ignore that fact.

    His latest stunt is to use a new design of rocket to launch a Tesla car to orbit Mars......while playing David Bowie's Space Oddity on the car sound system.

    No really.....here is the link if you don't believe me:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...-a8088176.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by eamo View Post
    That ars technica site looks really informative. Serious articles on science stuff written in an easier to understand manner than the specialised scientific journals and papers.
    The company that owns ars technica has recently dis-continued hiring unpaid and lowpaid interns. I could not find out was that because they found them a nuisance or they felt it was exploitation.

    Anyway, it is not as clear-cut as you suggest. There is informed suspicion that SpaceX are loosing money on each launch just to get into the game. Also ULA are paid a bonus, a retainer might be the word, just to be always ready to launch at short notice. This is for national security reasons.
    SpaceX would not have got where they are without the support and approval of the US state. Maybe because they dont like relying only on ULA or maybe they think ULA were overcharging, or maybe they think having two rivals will spur innovation. Who knows. At that level I am sure there are wheels within wheels and few things are as they seem on the surface.

    Elon Musk seems like Michael O'Leary on a grander scale and not as obnoxious, and like Ryan Air, SpaceX would not exist without government help. They both like to ignore that fact.

    His latest stunt is to use a new design of rocket to launch a Tesla car to orbit Mars......while playing David Bowie's Space Oddity on the car sound system.

    No really.....here is the link if you don't believe me:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...-a8088176.html
    Ars Technica is one of the best, glad you liked it. I'd be very surprised if I was told SpaceX was making money, and not at all surprised if I was told it was losing a bucket. Tesla, with it's share price thru the roof, has lost billions and is still not yet reliably profitable.


    It takes visionaries like Musk to take an idea and turn it into reality. It's no exaggeration to say he, (and a few others, biomedical people etc.), have a viable claim on the title Einstein of their Day.

    At $150,000 the Tesla roadster is about the cheapest payload for the rocket test, why not then turn it into a PR stunt?
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