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    Martin Ridge, the former Garda detective who helped to bring serial child rapist Father Eugene Greene to justice, appeared on the Stephen Nolan show on BBC Northern Ireland. Greene was jailed in 2000 after admitting the horrific abuse of 26 boys. Dozens of other victims never came forward.

    Mr Ridge, from Gortahork, told the BBC show that the offences committed by paedophile priests were ‘crimes against humanity.’

    Pointing to Brendan Boland, a victim of Fr Brendan Smyth, he said: “You have a boy here who was 14 years of age. He knew what to do. He wasn’t a canon lawyer; he knew the difference between right and wrong. We can justify anything if we want to and that is what is happening here. These were crimes; if Cardinal Brady wasn’t a cardinal and a man in any other position – his misguided loyalty is there.”

    He claimed the ‘instrument of fear is being used against people.’

    In an alarming development, Mr Boland, the man who gave evidence to the then Father Sean Brady in 1975 hoping that paedophile priest Brendan Smyth would be stopped stunned the TV audience with a startling new revelation. He told Nolan that a few weeks after he had given evidence in a church court detailing the abuse of him and others, evil Smyth arrived at a butcher’s shop where Mr Boland, then 14, had a part-time job.

    Smyth had waved his finger at him as if to warn him off.

    The incident will send new shockwaves through the Church today – and lead to questions as to how Smyth knew Mr Boland was his accuser.

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    I think it's time to stop demanding Brady's resignation ... the cry should now be for his arrest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew49 View Post
    Martin Ridge, the former Garda detective who helped to bring serial child rapist Father Eugene Greene to justice, appeared on the Stephen Nolan show on BBC Northern Ireland. Greene was jailed in 2000 after admitting the horrific abuse of 26 boys. Dozens of other victims never came forward.

    Mr Ridge, from Gortahork, told the BBC show that the offences committed by paedophile priests were ‘crimes against humanity.’

    Pointing to Brendan Boland, a victim of Fr Brendan Smyth, he said: “You have a boy here who was 14 years of age. He knew what to do. He wasn’t a canon lawyer; he knew the difference between right and wrong. We can justify anything if we want to and that is what is happening here. These were crimes; if Cardinal Brady wasn’t a cardinal and a man in any other position – his misguided loyalty is there.”

    He claimed the ‘instrument of fear is being used against people.’

    In an alarming development, Mr Boland, the man who gave evidence to the then Father Sean Brady in 1975 hoping that paedophile priest Brendan Smyth would be stopped stunned the TV audience with a startling new revelation. He told Nolan that a few weeks after he had given evidence in a church court detailing the abuse of him and others, evil Smyth arrived at a butcher’s shop where Mr Boland, then 14, had a part-time job.

    Smyth had waved his finger at him as if to warn him off.

    The incident will send new shockwaves through the Church today – and lead to questions as to how Smyth knew Mr Boland was his accuser.

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    That is shocking.

    But would the Church "investigators" and "Notetakers" not have interviewed Smyth specifically about Boland's allegations against him?

    It seems very likely that they would have told Smyth.

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    I have heard from people that I would consider trustworthy that St Patrick's College were still organising retreats at Kilnacrott Abbey for pupils at the time of Brady's enquiry and perhaps even later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew49 View Post
    I think it's time to stop demanding Brady's resignation ... the cry should now be for his arrest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaddyJoe View Post
    I have heard from people that I would consider trustworthy that St Patrick's College were still organising retreats at Kilnacrott Abbey for pupils at the time of Brady's enquiry and perhaps even later.
    Smyth may also have abused children in the Ryan Report institutions - as it appears he had access to the children of Nazareth House!
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    If Brady should resign, or be arrested, the same goes for the priesthood as a whole and everyone who acted, or who acts, in accordance with "Canon Law" rather than the law of the state.

    That is perhaps why the most authoritarian, right wing, "traditionalist" of the Irish Church is now keen to get Brady out of the way. He puts the case too lucidly and with the authority of head of the Church in Ireland. What he did then was in accordance with Canon Law, and he would do the same again today.

    They are desperate to sweep him under the carpet.

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    Didn't that streak of ***** Brady also say directly that if he was shown to be involved in the cover-up of abuse that he would resign?

    Which makes him a liar in more than one way today. I do hope the remainng Heavily Stupified of Ireland have a nice day out with their kiddies at the Hugely Optimistic Eucharistic Congress this summer with Sean Bardy gurning away at the little 'uns as much as he can in an effort to show his heart is in the right place even if his ethical sense is completely off planet.

    That one is beginning to look like a potential All-Ireland Moron Festival. In fairness you'd have to be a bit of a moron to bring the family along to the desperate shindig with Sean 'The Note-taker' Brady on the bill.

    I wouldn't normally describe a whole attendance at a festival 'morons' but in reality you really would have to be some kind of stupid to watch Sean Brady on the podium there. Either deeply stupid or totally indoctrinated.

    Maybe they should hold one of these things annually so the rest of the nation can get a good look at the Funding Stupid.
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    No point asking for his resignation. I would call for the Gardai/RUC to investigate it through and properly. Remind you of Cardinal Law who refused to resign but was promoted in the Vatican which made my blood boil.

    The Vatican have the arrogance and the real interest is in the world of money not on compassion nor caring side for the victims. You could see these victims relieving their trauma all over again when it broke out last week.

    Any promotion for Cardinal requires an element of cover up's especially the biggest/scandalous ones and prepare to go for an extra mile to earn this.

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    A Bishop, defending Brady, claims that if he had reported to the police, they would have referred him back to the Church.

    This is a serious allegation against the police.

    Is there any basis for it ?

    http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/a...be-550434.html

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    Coveney on Radio Marian (Finucane) - though Radio Marian seems more apt considering they're still pausing for the angelus - this morning did say he wouldn't be boycotting the Eucharistic Congress later in the year. Seems the cover-up of the physical and sexual torture of Irish children is not a serious enough issue for legislators' consciences! So perhaps IT should be renamed the Eucharistic Congrats - as I'm sure there'll be congrats all round, between to two main perpetrators of physical & sexual torture of children, considering they've sailed through it all without even one of them being held to account in the courts of the Republic.
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    Brady has denied meeting Smyth. Also it turns out the Gardai asked Church authorities in 1991 if an inquiry was carried out by the Church into Smyth and they denied any inquiry took place!

    Gardai in Dundalk - mere yards where the children were sworn to secrecy by Brady - asked the London Metropolitan police's child protection officer to take a statement from former priest Oliver McShane*. He told them about the inquiry.

    When Brady was confronted with this he said he was in Rome between 1980 and 1993 and has no knowledge or information about this!

    *Oliver McShane was one of the priests at the inquiry by Brady.
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    No point asking for his resignation. I would call for the Gardai/RUC to investigate it through and properly. Remind you of Cardinal Law who refused to resign but was promoted in the Vatican which made my blood boil.

    The Vatican have the arrogance and the real interest is in the world of money not on compassion nor caring side for the victims. You could see these victims relieving their trauma all over again when it broke out last week.

    Any promotion for Cardinal requires an element of cover up's especially the biggest/scandalous ones and prepare to go for an extra mile to earn this.
    Bernard Law was a guest twice at official functions in 2011 at the now defunct Irish embassy to the Vatican. Yup. Ligging down the champers and horsing into the hors d'euvres at Irish taxpayers expense.

    That would be the 'listening post' filled with experienced diplomats hell bent on keeping Ireland at the heart of wherever we are this week (Berlin, Boston, Beijing of Ballymagash).

    Exquisite diplomatic judgement there. Basically a paedophile cover-up merchant on the dodge from the US being wined and dined at an Irish embassy of all places- and this is only last year.

    Some 'listening post'. Clowns probably didn't even realise who he was and if they did I hope they die screaming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew49 View Post
    Coveney on Radio Marian (Finucane) - though Radio Marian seems more apt considering they're still pausing for the angelus - this morning did say he wouldn't be boycotting the Eucharistic Congress later in the year. Seems the cover-up of the physical and sexual torture of Irish children is not a serious enough issue for legislators' consciences! So perhaps IT should be renamed the Eucharistic Congrats - as I'm sure there'll be congrats all round, between to two main perpetrators of physical & sexual torture of children, considering they've sailed through it all without even one of them being held to account in the courts of the Republic.
    Bring the kiddies along to meet the paedo protector .... I do hope there are plenty of cameras there so people can see how stupid their fervent neighbour is bringing the family along to Disneyland for Diddlers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew49 View Post
    Coveney on Radio Marian (Finucane) - though Radio Marian seems more apt considering they're still pausing for the angelus - this morning did say he wouldn't be boycotting the Eucharistic Congress later in the year. Seems the cover-up of the physical and sexual torture of Irish children is not a serious enough issue for legislators' consciences! So perhaps IT should be renamed the Eucharistic Congrats - as I'm sure there'll be congrats all round, between to two main perpetrators of physical & sexual torture of children, considering they've sailed through it all without even one of them being held to account in the courts of the Republic.
    The simple calculation for Politicians is which action will likely lose more votes

    Coveney has obviously decided that not attending might cost him more votes.

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