Quinn Says Orders Don't Have Assets to Pay Abuse Bill

[C. Flower]

http://www.independent.ie/national-n...l-3073838.html

Ruairi Quinn is saying that the Orders can't pay their share of the costs of Institutional abuse. He is talking about taking over schools and hospitals, but ownership has been shifted to Trusts.

If the will was there legislation could be passed to secure these properties.

EDUCATION Minister Ruairi Quinn yesterday admitted publicly for the first time that religious orders don't have the cash or assets to pay their share of the compensation bill for abuse.

And he said he had no intention of bankrupting the orders -- which leaves him facing a massive battle to recover their half of a €1.5bn bill.

The taxpayer is already picking up €750m of the expected final cost but now faces having to pay far more.

[C. Flower]

Well, apparently, they do.

http://www.politicalworld.org/showth...9225#post19225

[Baron von Biffo]

If the orders don't cough up would it mean that the shameful Woods deal is over? If so, could their victims sue the orders directly?

[Andrew49]

[Captain Con O'Sullivan]

Quinn is well aware as are other senior Ministers in the Irish Government that the catholic church and its religious orders have been engaged in shifting assets around to avoid wealth valuation in case the Irish government ever develops a pair of testicles in dealing with these fraudulent witchdoctors.

The Christian Brothers and the Sisters of Mercy have both been making asset transfers to new trusts and companies respectively over the past few years.

Question- why is the Minister for Education making this statement and not the Justice Minister? Since when was the Dept of Education the Ministry with expertise in asset recovery on behalf of the Irish Government?

Could it have anything to do with Quinn being involved in schools discussions with the failing church and there is another Woods II crooked deal approaching?

I smell the same rat that stank the place up in 2002.

[concernedparent]

Quinn is well aware as are other senior Ministers in the Irish Government that the catholic church and its religious orders have been engaged in shifting assets around to avoid wealth valuation in case the Irish government ever develops a pair of testicles in dealing with these fraudulent witchdoctors.

The Christian Brothers and the Sisters of Mercy have both been making asset transfers to new trusts and companies respectively over the past few years.

Question- why is the Minister for Education making this statement and not the Justice Minister? Since when was the Dept of Education the Ministry with expertise in asset recovery on behalf of the Irish Government?

Could it have anything to do with Quinn being involved in schools discussions with the failing church and there is another Woods II crooked deal approaching?



I smell the same rat that stank the place up in 2002.

I do too. Should we be surprised that R.Quinn, staunch socialist is allowing the
Catholic Church to get away with it.

Anyway I would have thought it should be a case for CAB.

[Captain Con O'Sullivan]

You'd imagine so. But apparently CAB only do small and medium sized dealers who forget to stay friendly with the Gardai.

CAB have as far as I know never ventured anywhere near serious or anywhere near anyone with any social pull across the D4 area.

Besides the Minister for Education is apparently now the self-appointed Cabinet Minister for hearing lies from Priests. And sure what would the Minister for Education know about asset recovery?

I wonder what the Minister for Justice thinks of the level of expertise in the Dept of Education in terms of recovery of assets on behalf of the state.

Smell of rat emerging here.

[Binn Beal]

When/if they come looking for my household tax I will offer €12 which is proportional to the amount of their debt that the Catholic orders offered.
I will also point out that Dun Roamin' is now the property of the Dun Roamin' Trust.