The 1798 Rebellion - What book?

[Saoirse go Deo]

What book would you recommend thats about the 1798 rebellion?

I'd be looking for one that deals both with the battles and the major characters.

I'm also looking for one on Robert Emmet.

[riposte]

What book would you recommend thats about the 1798 rebellion?

I'd be looking for one that deals both with the battles and the major characters.

I'm also looking for one on Robert Emmet.

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[Saoirse go Deo]

That looks like just what I was looking for What would be the best place to order it online?

I didn't know you were involved in writing/publishing

[Sidewinder]

The Year Of The French is a fiction book but set in 1798 and based around the adventures round Mayo, Sligo and Roscommon when General Humbert landed a small French force. Not read it in years but I remember it being an entertaining, if grim, yarn.

[antiestablishmentarian]

Dr Ruadhan O'Domhnaill has written a couple of interesting books on Michael Dwyer, who took part in '98 and went on to lead a guerrilla insurgency in the Wicklow mountains for several years afterwards.

[Sidewinder]

There's Marianne Elliott's biography of Tone of course which whatever you think of it is probably on the "required reading" list for this particular subject.

[riposte]

Dr Ruadhan O'Domhnaill has written a couple of interesting books on Michael Dwyer, who took part in '98 and went on to lead a guerrilla insurgency in the Wicklow mountains for several years afterwards.

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New Book to be launched by Ruan O'Donnell.

[Garibaldy]

Thomas Pakenham's The Year of Liberty remains the main history of the actual battles in 1798 across the island instead of in certain places.

There were several biographies of Emmet around 2003. One 2-volume one by Ruán O'Donnell that deals with 1798 and then with 1803, one by Patrick Geoghegan, and one by Marianne Elliott. Geoghegan's is primarily about Emmet's life, but Elliott devotes more space to his legacy.

[Sam Lord]

Thomas Pakenham's The Year of Liberty remains the main history of the actual battles in 1798 across the island instead of in certain places.

Pakenham is not to be recommended.

Until recently, the prevailing historical view of the 1798 Rebellion was that, in its most dramatic manifestations, it was the work of a desperate and disorganised Catholic peasant jacquerie driven by religious hatred and the desire to extirpate not just their Protestants rulers, but all Protestants. This reconstruction of ‘98 as violently sectarian can be traced ideologically to Sir Richard Musgrave’s controversial Memoirs of the different Rebellions in Ireland, which is one reason why the initiative of Round Tower Books in publishing a new edition based on the third edition of 1802 is so timely. There are other reasons: the addition of an index to the massive narrative and extensive appendices that go to make up its nine hundred plus pages is invaluable, while the footnotes indicating where the text deviates from what appears in the first two editions is likewise to be welcomed. Musgrave is not an easy read, because of its scale as well as the passion which infuses his narrative but, as David Dickson rightly observes in his biographical foreword on the author, it cannot be ignored by anybody interested in the period because of ‘its relentless accumulation of documentary and oral evidence’.
Musgrave’s influence is certainly detectable in Thomas Pakenham’s widely read popular account of the 1798 Rebellion, The Year of Liberty. Pakenham comes in for some harsh criticism from a number of authors in The Mighty Wave, a selection of papers edited by Dáire Keogh and Nicholas Furlong from those presented at the inaugural Comoradh ‘98 conference and Byrne-Perry Summer School held in County Wexford in 1995. Kevin Whelan’s dismissal of his approach as ‘crude reductionism’ may be intellectually sustainable, but it is perhaps more categorical than it needs to be given the failure of scholars for so long to offer an alternative interpretation. This apart, Whelan’s essay on the reinterpretation of the rebellion in Wexford offers a characteristically vigorous exploration of how current views on this event differs from the likes of Pakenham....

http://www.historyireland.com/volume...ews/?id=113242

[TotalMayhem]

Pakenham is not to be recommended.

Having trouble with the "relentless accumulation of documentary and oral evidence"? As usual, any interpretation of historic events is up for debate but you can't plainly dismiss the book just because you don't like Pakenham's point of view.

A variety of contemporary accounts and letters can be found at Project Gutenberg, The Internet Archive and other places if you want to dig around.

[Garibaldy]

Pakenham is not to be recommended.



http://www.historyireland.com/volume...ews/?id=113242

Pakenham certainly has its problems and certainly shows its age. But, as I said, if you want to know what battles happened across the island where and when, and what happened during them, then it remains the best place to go. And that is what the person who asked the question was looking for.

[Saoirse go Deo]

Pakenhams book sounds like what I am looking for, a great starting point anyway. No one book gives the definitive history so I'd be looking at reading several, and his book seems to be the place to start.

I've never bought a book online before, where would be the cheapest place to buy it from? (secondhand is fine). Ebay?

[TotalMayhem]

Here's a freebie from Project Gutenberg:

An Impartial Narrative of the Most Important Engagements Which Took Place Between His Majesty's Forces and the Rebels, During the Irish Rebellion, 1798.

Including very interesting information not before made public. Carefully collected from authentic letters.

By John Jones of Dublin, first published in 1799, various formats.

[Garibaldy]

Pakenhams book sounds like what I am looking for, a great starting point anyway. No one book gives the definitive history so I'd be looking at reading several, and his book seems to be the place to start.

I've never bought a book online before, where would be the cheapest place to buy it from? (secondhand is fine). Ebay?

Abebooks has some for 63p plus about £2 postage within the UK. Don't know what it would be for the south if you're down there.

[TotalMayhem]

Another freebie, from The Internet Archive

History of the Irish rebellion in 1798: with memoirs of the union, and Emmett's insurrection in 1803

First published in 1845

Author: William Hamilton Maxwell

I recommend the PDF or DjVu version, the flow text conversions are utterly poor.