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    All of the Fianna Fail reps implicated by the Report have now resigned before they could be expelled on Friday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by musashi View Post
    All of the Fianna Fail reps implicated by the Report have now resigned before they could be expelled on Friday.
    I found a picture of them

    "The land Coillte Teo is now selling for development was given to them by the State in 1988 to ensure that our woodlands were run commercially, not to enable them to sell the family silver to service bank loans".
    - Friends of the Irish Environment, 28.04.2003

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    A musing on the post Mahon landscape

    http://barringtonkevin.blogspot.com/...nice-neat.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by musashi View Post
    All of the Fianna Fail reps implicated by the Report have now resigned before they could be expelled on Friday.
    How very convenient. MeHole and Oireland Inc. will be pleased indeed. Shut mouths, no flies caught...
    "It is we the workers who built these palaces and cities here in Spain and in America and everywhere. We, the workers, can build others to take their place. And better ones! We are not in the least afraid of ruins. We are going to inherit the earth; there is not the slightest doubt about that. The bourgeoisie might blast and ruin its own world before it leaves the stage of history. We carry a new world here, in our hearts."
    — Buenaventura Durruti

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    Thankfully others out there are equally disgusted by the moral contortionist that is Enda Kenny.

    There has been considerable public and political unease about the fact that Mr. O’Brien has continued to pop up at various public events, most recently at the New York Stock Exchange. However, the Taoiseach was invited to attend that stock exchange event. The organisers of the event not the Office of the Taoiseach decided who was on the balcony for the bell ringing ceremony. It is perhaps time for the Government to reflect on how it should in future interact with people against whom adverse findings have been made by tribunals.

    http://www.broadsheet.ie/2012/03/28/...-down-to-size/

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    for me there is a difference between a corrupt politician and a corrupt private citizen

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    Quote Originally Posted by culmore View Post
    for me there is a difference between a corrupt politician and a corrupt private citizen
    I don't know which is worse, alls I know is they both cause harm to democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by musashi View Post
    All of the Fianna Fail reps implicated by the Report have now resigned before they could be expelled on Friday.
    Egos that large would never allow themselves to be expelled by the little people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by culmore View Post
    for me there is a difference between a corrupt politician and a corrupt private citizen
    Would it be acceptable in your book, for politicians to associate with corrupt private citizens?

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    FYI: Arthur Beesley questions commission on Flynn

    http://ec.europa.eu/avservices/video....cfm?ref=84064


    On another note, I agree with Joan about O Brien. Some of us expressed such views last year after that event in Dublin Castle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greengoddess View Post
    FYI: Arthur Beesley questions commission on Flynn

    http://ec.europa.eu/avservices/video....cfm?ref=84064


    On another note, I agree with Joan about O Brien. Some of us expressed such views last year after that event in Dublin Castle.
    I am heartened by the general public response to the Reports (Moriarty & Mahon), these criminals need to be ostracized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greengoddess View Post
    FYI: Arthur Beesley questions commission on Flynn

    http://ec.europa.eu/avservices/video....cfm?ref=84064


    On another note, I agree with Joan about O Brien. Some of us expressed such views last year after that event in Dublin Castle.
    Joan should introduce legislation to make bribing a public official illegal.

    A minimum jail sentence of 15 years, for both parties to a bribe, should put manners on people.
    "The land Coillte Teo is now selling for development was given to them by the State in 1988 to ensure that our woodlands were run commercially, not to enable them to sell the family silver to service bank loans".
    - Friends of the Irish Environment, 28.04.2003

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    Howlin just called for consequences for anyone against whom Tribunals have made adverse findings. Is this just hot air or wha?

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    A statement from Sean Kenny TD:

    The Dublin North East Labour Party TD and former Dublin City Councillor, Seán Kenny, has called on Fianna Fáil TD and Chairman of the Public Accounts Committee to step aside over his lobbying for the Cargobridge Consortium.


    “Fianna Fáil Deputy John McGuinness, then a member of Kilkenny County Council, made direct representation by letter to the then Taoiseach, Albert Reynolds, in relation to allowing the consortium to access the site over the lands owned by Minister for Transport. Deputy McGuinness’s brother, Mr. Michael McGuinness was a director of Neptune Freight. The Mahon report says that Michael McGuinness gave £10,000 in cash to Frank Dunlop in the knowledge that at least part of the money would be used for corrupt purposes.”

    “The report also states that Mr. Michael McGuinness refused to attend the tribunal to give evidence. Deputy McGuinness recently made trenchant criticism of the Mahon Tribunal on its publication particularly in relation to the tribunal costs. At the same time he neglected to mention his own intervention in the Cargobridge affair, referred to in the Mahon report and I believe he is hypocritical in this regard. Deputy McGuinness is currently Chairman of the Public Accounts Committee. Regretfully, Deputy John McGuinness failed to address his involvement with the Cargobridge affair during his earlier contribution in the Dáil today. I would call on Deputy John McGuinness to step aside as Chairman of the Public Accounts committee in the light of the Mahon Tribunal account of his involvement in the Cargobridge affair.”

    “It is absolutely imperative that we have open and transparent public representatives working to represent the people of this country. The Mahon Report shows just how society is damaged when that does not happen. John McGuinness has, I believe, shown himself to be the opposite of open and transparent. It is for that reason that he should resign as Chairman of the Public Accounts Committee. He did not act in the public interest when he lobbied for his brother, and I believe that he cannot be trusted to act in the public interest any longer.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. FIVE View Post
    A statement from Sean Kenny TD:

    The Dublin North East Labour Party TD and former Dublin City Councillor, Seán Kenny, has called on Fianna Fáil TD and Chairman of the Public Accounts Committee to step aside over his lobbying for the Cargobridge Consortium.


    “Fianna Fáil Deputy John McGuinness, then a member of Kilkenny County Council, made direct representation by letter to the then Taoiseach, Albert Reynolds, in relation to allowing the consortium to access the site over the lands owned by Minister for Transport. Deputy McGuinness’s brother, Mr. Michael McGuinness was a director of Neptune Freight. The Mahon report says that Michael McGuinness gave £10,000 in cash to Frank Dunlop in the knowledge that at least part of the money would be used for corrupt purposes.”

    “The report also states that Mr. Michael McGuinness refused to attend the tribunal to give evidence. Deputy McGuinness recently made trenchant criticism of the Mahon Tribunal on its publication particularly in relation to the tribunal costs. At the same time he neglected to mention his own intervention in the Cargobridge affair, referred to in the Mahon report and I believe he is hypocritical in this regard. Deputy McGuinness is currently Chairman of the Public Accounts Committee. Regretfully, Deputy John McGuinness failed to address his involvement with the Cargobridge affair during his earlier contribution in the Dáil today. I would call on Deputy John McGuinness to step aside as Chairman of the Public Accounts committee in the light of the Mahon Tribunal account of his involvement in the Cargobridge affair.”

    “It is absolutely imperative that we have open and transparent public representatives working to represent the people of this country. The Mahon Report shows just how society is damaged when that does not happen. John McGuinness has, I believe, shown himself to be the opposite of open and transparent. It is for that reason that he should resign as Chairman of the Public Accounts Committee. He did not act in the public interest when he lobbied for his brother, and I believe that he cannot be trusted to act in the public interest any longer.”
    And McGuinness was always the FFer pretending to have a conscience
    "The land Coillte Teo is now selling for development was given to them by the State in 1988 to ensure that our woodlands were run commercially, not to enable them to sell the family silver to service bank loans".
    - Friends of the Irish Environment, 28.04.2003

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