Plaid Cymru leader sees Independent Wales in her lifetime.

[Sam Lord]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-17405578

I think the situation in the UK is changing," she told BBC Radio Wales.

"We will await with interest the outcome of the referendum in Scotland, but if people in Scotland vote yes, the United Kingdom will no longer exist, and then we as Wales will need to decide where we want to go.

[morticia]

Wales, as it stands, has very little independent sources of revenue... it has been a VAT sink for most of the past 30-40 years.

However, if they can charge the English enough for their water surplus (never stops raining, trust me, lived there for 5 years, Cardiff gets twice what Dublin gets and it is in the East of Wales) and agricultural prices take off, it could be a wholly different story.

I wish them the best. Living there for as long as I did was a timely reminder of how WE would have been treated by Westminster if we hadn't been liberated by Collins, Dev, Connolly and Co. Ltd. Dublin after 5 years of depression is in better shape than much of the Valleys were in the boom. Trust me on that one.

[C. Flower]

You're absolutely right morticia. Perhaps, instead of making a rather unrealistic try at going it alone, Wales could be persuaded to become Ireland's Fifth Province ?

Ireland has historically been divided into four provinces: Leinster, Ulster, Munster and Connacht. The Irish word for this territorial division, cúige, literally meaning "fifth part", indicates that there were once five;

[morticia]

You're absolutely right morticia. Perhaps, instead of making a rather unrealistic try at going it alone, Wales could be persuaded to become Ireland's Fifth Province ?

There might be a few up for that, but we'd have to fix our minor accounting irregularities first

Then there would be the fun of having everything in 3 national languages...hmmm On that front, we'd be better off with the Scots.... not a huge gulf between Scots Gaelic and our own...

Or we could just go for one unified Celtic Fringe.....now that would annoy the Tories!!

[Apjp]

Wales, as it stands, has very little independent sources of revenue... it has been a VAT sink for most of the past 30-40 years.

However, if they can charge the English enough for their water surplus (never stops raining, trust me, lived there for 5 years, Cardiff gets twice what Dublin gets and it is in the East of Wales) and agricultural prices take off, it could be a wholly different story.

I wish them the best. Living there for as long as I did was a timely reminder of how WE would have been treated by Westminster if we hadn't been liberated by Collins, Dev, Connolly and Co. Ltd. Dublin after 5 years of depression is in better shape than much of the Valleys were in the boom. Trust me on that one.

If you call the Anglo Irish treaty and the nativising of oppression and impoverishment liberation.

[Apjp]

There might be a few up for that, but we'd have to fix our minor accounting irregularities first

Then there would be the fun of having everything in 3 national languages...hmmm On that front, we'd be better off with the Scots.... not a huge gulf between Scots Gaelic and our own...

Or we could just go for one unified Celtic Fringe.....now that would annoy the Tories!!

I'd be fully in favour of it mind. You could get a worse idea. Just keep England out, sort out the gombeens and it can't go wrong.

[fluffybiscuits]

http://www.redpepper.org.uk/a-new-cy...d-interviewed/

Very good interview in Red Pepper with her. Her background from a mining town and being in touch with the working class proves she has the competency to take on the current govt.

[Apjp]

You're absolutely right morticia. Perhaps, instead of making a rather unrealistic try at going it alone, Wales could be persuaded to become Ireland's Fifth Province ?

Meath was once the site for high kingdom of Ireland by the way for those who are a little unaware of their history . just in case anyone's ever been to the hill of Tara...case closed..