* Fiscal Stability Treaty Referendum 31st May 2012 *

[Dr. FIVE]

someones on the piss

[People Korps]

Europe is on a precipise due to false austerity program

Southern Europe fears summer of violence http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...ummer-violence

[Newsy]

I wonder was it deliberate or was it EU intention to lend low interest with plenty credit lines in the hope that countries trip themselves up??

Along with that, FF along with their finance ministers passed successive finance bill's, which loosened the purse strings in the form of tax incentives & relief at the expense of our taxpayer.

Euro wasn't that long since 1999.

Then they would claim to save them in order by forcing a political & fiscal union at the end re series of treaties designed towards that union.

I have often wondered the same thing.

[C. Flower]

someones on the piss

Really that is how they are talking... "Yes is Positive.. No is Negative"....

[ang]

Greece is hurting Ireland - this is the type of conquer and divide EU partnership we are expected to vote yes to ? Remember Our turn will come.

IRISH hopes of avoiding a second bailout are being hurt by the latest crisis in Greece, former ECB executive board member Lorenzo Bini Smaghi claimed yesterday.
"Ireland has made huge progress over the last year. It is really a pity what is happening in Greece is spoiling all this,

An excuse has been found for Irelands second bailout -

"Without the Greek events, I think Ireland would be able to come back to the markets."

http://www.independent.ie/business/i...i-3112267.html

[ang]

Hmmmm

Citi also pointed out, however, that they expect a second European bailout to remain available to Ireland even if the fiscal compact treaty fails.

I believe markets will insist !

http://www.independent.ie/business/e...t-3112203.html

[Dr. FIVE]

That tweet has since been deleted.

[C. Flower]

Hmmmm



I believe markets will insist !

http://www.independent.ie/business/e...t-3112203.html

Standard and Poor said the same last week, and were misreported by the Irish media as saying the opposite.

Noonan went to the Daíl earlier this year and assured the members that the "blackmail clause" would not damage Ireland and that Programme members would be supported until they could go back to the markets.

[C. Flower]

By the way, we can't afford to borrow more money to bail out broken banks.

That is what the second bailout would be.

[ang]

By the way, we can't afford to borrow more money to bail out broken banks.

That is what the second bailout would be.

Exactly As we all know banks take priority over people.

Kenny and Honohan both wish for banks to be recapitalised from ESM directly so as to add confusion whilst ensuring banks debts are firmly shouldered and accepted as soereign debt.

Meanwhile the Dutch Govt. has cancelled ratification of the fiscal compact. EDIT - Ratification of ESM due to doubts on constitutionality

[PaddyJoe]

Huh? I've just seen this now

CABINET MINISTER RUAIRI Quinn said earlier this morning that the government will consider holding off on formally ratifying the Fiscal Compact even if the electorate vote Yes on 31 May.
However, a spokesperson for the Minister has since clarified the Government’s position to TheJournal.ie.

http://www.thejournal.ie/minister-qu...52789-May2012/

[ang]

Huh? I've just seen this now

http://www.thejournal.ie/minister-qu...52789-May2012/

I heard something about that earlier this week but as usual the Govt started back peddling almost as soon as it was said. All it proves is that the Govt. itself are in disarray and the left hand has no idea what the right hand is doing.

[Dr. FIVE]

So this new era of prudence, responiblity and all that. They haven't put any limits on borrowing or leanding in the financial sector yet have they?

[ang]

So this new era of prudence, responiblity and all that. They haven't put any limits on borrowing or leanding in the financial sector yet have they?

No, but if they did how could Governments access trough funds .............

[Ah Well]

Huh? I've just seen this now

http://www.thejournal.ie/minister-qu...52789-May2012/

yet another reason to vote NO

They just keep mounting up

It's sheeple-ish tho to vote the opposite, as shall likely occur by a majority