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    To rubbish any suggestion of a threat against these men by Republicans which saw them embark on a hungerstrike recently here is a statement from Republicans on Roe 4 of the Republican block.

    Roe 4 Republican prisoners Maghaberry have been monitoring for some time now the case of Thomas and Desmond Hamill, Martin Mc Gilloway and Austin Creggan from Dungannon who embarked on a hunger-strike for the right to be moved onto the Republican wing in Maghaberry.
    Representatives of Roe 4 Republican prisoners have had a number of meetings with the families of these 4 men and made the suggestion that Independent Councillors be asked to attend these meetings to help resolve the situation. The Independent Councillors were only to happy to attend and agreed to work alongside the families to seek a resolution.
    At a very early stage the 4 men and their families were informed that Roe 4 Republican prisoners had accepted the 4 men onto the wing as Republican prisoners.
    The administration of Maghaberry were told by Roe 4 prisoners to move the 4 men over to the republican wing. Within days the administration informed Roe 4 prisoners that these men would not be moved over to Roe 4 as a threat was in place against them from another group of Republican prisoners.
    Thomas, Desmond, Martin and Austin were advised to end their hunger-strike to allow space to address the decision taken by the administration to deny them their right to be on a Republican wing.
    These men are not under threat from any prisoner on Roe 4 and we call on the administration of Maghaberry to move these men over onto Roe 4 immediately.
    Republican Prisoners, Roe 4, Maghaberry. Ends.

    These men are now being held on the SSU Block [segregated Unit] were as form 31st October 12, they began a dirty/no wash protest.
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    The northern state will never change, despite this sham "peace process". The British government has successfully house trained Irish nationalists to the ways of the orange state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dojo View Post
    The northern state will never change, despite this sham "peace process". The British government has successfully house trained Irish nationalists to the ways of the orange state.
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    That is very clearly put.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
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    That is very clearly put.
    Thanks. Just seen on @markdevenport family of murdered prison officer David Black have told Martin McGuinness he is "not welcome" at tomorrow's funeral. Lovely people I'm sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dojo View Post
    Thanks. Just seen on @markdevenport family of murdered prison officer David Black have told Martin McGuinness he is "not welcome" at tomorrow's funeral. Lovely people I'm sure.
    That'll be the Orange Order/POA talking given the recently deceased was a member. Martin should take note that although he's ''house trained'' [as you put it] old scores and attitudes are unsettled.

    I note the recent drive to recruit more Catholics into the prison service like when the RUC became the PSNI, 14 years behind pace i reckon and not that it will make an awful lot of difference once they go through in house training. A culture shock for the inner circle that is the POA.

    Quote...NI prisons chief bids to recruit more Catholics

    Sue McAllister said she will work with the Equality Commission to address the low numbers of Catholics applying to join
    The new director-general of the Prison Service (NIPS) has said she is disappointed by the number of Catholics applying to be custody officers.unquote.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-20088779
    Last edited by Trow; 26-11-2012 at 10:17 PM. Reason: Include POA
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trow View Post
    That'll be the Orange Order talking given the recently deceased was a member. Martin should take note that although he's ''house trained'' [as you put it] old scores and attitudes are unsettled.

    I note the recent drive to recruit more Catholics into the prison service like when the RUC became the PSNI, 14 years behind pace i reckon and not that it will make an awful lot of difference once they go through in house training. A culture shock for the inner circle that is the POA.

    Quote...NI prisons chief bids to recruit more Catholics

    Sue McAllister said she will work with the Equality Commission to address the low numbers of Catholics applying to join
    The new director-general of the Prison Service (NIPS) has said she is disappointed by the number of Catholics applying to be custody officers.unquote.
    Can't be having Fenians attending a service for one of the brethren can we? A lodge might complain, like what happened with the funeral of Ronan Kerr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dojo View Post
    Can't be having Fenians attending a service for one of the brethren can we? A lodge might complain, like what happened with the funeral of Ronan Kerr.
    Probably down to that split faction in the Orange Order said to be more bitter......'' the Lemons''.

    You''ll see Policing and Justice Minister David Ford take quite a bashing on this thread thus far for inacation and excuses. I'm coming to decide that this is because he's afraid to rock the sectarian POA boat.

    Little wonder an Alliance party member was puppeted into the post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trow View Post
    Probably down to that split faction in the Orange Order said to be more bitter......'' the Lemons''.

    You''ll see Policing and Justice Minister David Ford take quite a bashing on this thread thus far for inacation and excuses. I'm coming to decide that this is because he's afraid to rock the sectarian POA boat.

    Little wonder an Alliance party member was puppeted into the post.
    The Justice post was supposed to have been "neutral", ie, neither Nationalist nor Unionist. Yet we've seen nothing but anti Republican policies coming out of Ford's ministry. The two most important posts, Justice and Finance, are in the hands of Unionists, SF and the SDLP are just irrelevancies in Stormont. It's no wonder the dissidents are increasing in support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dojo View Post
    The Justice post was supposed to have been "neutral", ie, neither Nationalist nor Unionist. Yet we've seen nothing but anti Republican policies coming out of Ford's ministry..
    Sticking an Alliance Minister in the post was a quick fix dupe. History will show that Alliance always were and are loyal supporters of policing however they abuse human rights. Ford and co won't rock that boat either.

    The latest out of the Stormont utopia...Quote...First Minister Peter Robinson told the assembly on Monday that the murder would not cause the executive to fail, nor bring any change to prison regimes.unquote. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-20206736

    I think there's been a concerted effort all along behind the scenes by the POA and in public by the DUP [Democratic Unionist Party] to scupper the August 2010 agreement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trow View Post
    Sticking an Alliance Minister in the post was a quick fix dupe. History will show that Alliance always were and are loyal supporters of policing however they abuse human rights. Ford and co won't rock that boat either.

    The latest out of the Stormont utopia...Quote...First Minister Peter Robinson told the assembly on Monday that the murder would not cause the executive to fail, nor bring any change to prison regimes.unquote. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-20206736

    I think there's been a concerted effort all along behind the scenes by the POA and in public by the DUP [Democratic Unionist Party] to scupper the August 2010 agreement.
    Seems to be the intention of the unionist governing elite to make things as unbearable as possible for SF, ultimately forcing them to walk. Unionism then can turn around and say SF are trying to ruin peace, the GFA, blah, blah; and basically demonise Republicans. The British state would then intervene, scrap power sharing and allow the Assembly to appoint an executive by a mere majority vote, thus creating a permanent unionist controlled government, completely devoid of nationalists.

    That might sound like a pretty "out-there" mad suggestion, but look at how far unionism and the British government has pushed nationalism. The Orange state is already back. The last step for unionists is to see nationalists put back in their places, on the opposition benches and well away from any position of power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dojo View Post
    Seems to be the intention of the unionist governing elite to make things as unbearable as possible for SF, ultimately forcing them to walk. Unionism then can turn around and say SF are trying to ruin peace, the GFA, blah, blah; and basically demonise Republicans. The British state would then intervene, scrap power sharing and allow the Assembly to appoint an executive by a mere majority vote, thus creating a permanent unionist controlled government, completely devoid of nationalists.

    That might sound like a pretty "out-there" mad suggestion, but look at how far unionism and the British government has pushed nationalism. The Orange state is already back. The last step for unionists is to see nationalists put back in their places, on the opposition benches and well away from any position of power.
    Not so mad and ''out there'' when you consider the recent arrest and remand of Padraic Wilson. [Long Kesh IRA leader]
    A politically motivated arrest by elements within the PSNI says Gerry Kelly of Sinn Fein.

    As Mr. Kelly said, news of this and the reaction has went through Republicanism like a bush fire.

    Wonder how Padraic will find Maghaberry Gaol if his detention is prolonged and what Sinn Fein will say/do about that?
    Perhaps this timely arrest is designed to create unrest at Stormont or have Sinn Fein tarred with the dissident brush once they complain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trow View Post
    Not so mad and ''out there'' when you consider the recent arrest and remand of Padraic Wilson. [Long Kesh IRA leader]
    A politically motivated arrest by elements within the PSNI says Gerry Kelly of Sinn Fein.

    As Mr. Kelly said, news of this and the reaction has went through Republicanism like a bush fire.

    Wonder how Padraic will find Maghaberry Gaol if his detention is prolonged and what Sinn Fein will say/do about that?
    Perhaps this timely arrest is designed to create unrest at Stormont or have Sinn Fein tarred with the dissident brush once they complain.
    Hard to know really. Considering how important Wilson was in getting the IRA on the path to peace it makes you wonder why the British suddenly have a problem with his IRA membership? Hell, the IRA doesn't even have any offensive capabilities any more. It exists pretty much as a "old boy's club", rather like the Royal Legion.

    You can't stop people from coalescing into groups. Passing laws making said groups of people illegal just reeks of fascism. It's like the Tories WANT a return to the Troubles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dojo View Post
    Hard to know really. Considering how important Wilson was in getting the IRA on the path to peace it makes you wonder why the British suddenly have a problem with his IRA membership? Hell, the IRA doesn't even have any offensive capabilities any more. It exists pretty much as a "old boy's club", rather like the Royal Legion.

    You can't stop people from coalescing into groups. Passing laws making said groups of people illegal just reeks of fascism. It's like the Tories WANT a return to the Troubles.
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    The "Orange State" is not back for God's sake. Things aren't great but that's utter nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo View Post
    The "Orange State" is not back for God's sake. Things aren't great but that's utter nonsense.
    Tell that to the residents of Ardoyne, Short Strand, Rathcoole, etc, etc. Oh and not forgetting......

    • The butcher's apron is triumphantly hoisted atop public buildings and most shared spaces, while.......
    • The national flag of Ireland is hoisted atop thousands of bonfires
    • Speaking of "Orange-fest", the 12th of July continues to be a public holiday across the north despite the bigotry and hatred spewed by the Orange Order and Loyalists.
    • Carson's statue outside Stormont
    • Still no Irish language act
    • Republicans harassed and imprisoned


    Should I continue?

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