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    keep digging

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    Think the Venezuelan Vuvuzala plans to be President for life.

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    Was about to put up a new thread but then I found this ridiculous one: but itll serve!

    So today is venezuelan presidential election day!

    The incumbant president Chavez vs. the new old right wing canditate Capriles.

    Unfortunately because of the utter partisan and tabloid reporting which venezuela usually elicits, I will not be posting any newspaper articles. Also, generally, most polls conclude that Chavez will win reelection, thus confirming the dictator in power for another term ;P

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    Here’s two non-tabloid pieces on the Venezuelan elections. While most expect Chavez to win, ( if not legitimately then illegitimately), few expect him to live long enough to serve the full term.

    CARACAS, Venezuela — President Hugo Chavez’s crusade to transform Venezuela into a socialist state, which has bitterly divided the nation, was put to the stiffest electoral test of his nearly 14 years in power on Sunday in a closely fought presidential election.

    Reveille blared from sound trucks around the capital to awaken voters and the bugle call was later replaced by folk music mixed with a recording of Chavez’s voice saying “those who love the homeland come with me.” At many polling places, voters started lining up hours before polls opened at dawn.

    Chavez’s challenger, Henrique Capriles, has united the opposition in a contest between two camps that distrust each other so deeply there are concerns whether a close election result will be respected.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...71a_story.html

    CARACAS—Venezuelans voted Sunday in a closely fought presidential election that will either allow President Hugo Chávez six more years in power to deepen his Socialist revolution or spell the end of his 14-year lock on politics in the oil-rich country.

    Opinion polls suggested a very close race between Mr. Chávez, backed by his ruling United Socialist Party of Venezuela, and Henrique Capriles, a young state governor supported by a host of opposition parties.

    Some polls gave Mr. Chávez a double-digit lead, but others showed the challenger with a narrow lead. What everyone agreed on is that Mr. Capriles had narrowed the gap significantly in the months leading up to the vote and clearly had the momentum.
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...537457368.html
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    Predictable and drole count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ogiol View Post
    Predictable and drole count.
    Well, you said you weren’t prepared to post any news articles because you said they were all tabloid. I posted some non-tabloid and you are still not happy but you use only two words to express your displeasure. You are not being very enlightening. If none of the tabloid, or non-tabloid news pieces meet with your approval, would you care to explain what would meet your approval.
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    CARACAS—Venezuelans voted Sunday in a closely fought presidential election that will either allow President Hugo Chávez six more years to further the aims of the Socialist revolution or spell the end of the 14-year attempt to overturn the oligarchy in the oil-rich country.

    Opinion polls suggested a very close race between Mr. Chávez, backed by the organisations of workers and peasants and Henrique Capriles, an ambitious state governor supported by the United States.

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    Here’s more non tabloid stuff don’t choke on it.

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    F HUGO CHAVEZ is an autocrat, how could he be in danger of losing the Venezuelan presidency in an election on Sunday? The question, posed by one of Mr. Chavez’s dwindling band of American supporters, is a fair one: Polls show a race to the wire between the caudillo and challenger Henrique Capriles Radonski. An opposition victory would mean an epochal change of political direction in one of the world’s largest oil producers, with far-reaching consequences for Cuba and other leftist Latin American regimes.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...y.html?hpid=z4

    MARACAY, Venezuela — Henrique Capriles Radonski has been called many things in his uphill fight to unseat Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez.
    Chávez has constantly ridiculed him as a majunche ("nobody") and a U.S. lackey. Foreign Minister Nicolás Maduro called him "queer," while government ministers have said that he is a right-wing reactionary.

    On Sunday, Oct. 7, however, Capriles's detractors may have to call him something else: winner.

    Capriles, 40, handsome, and single, has emerged as the first viable democratic challenger in 14 years to Chávez, the eccentric socialist leader who styles himself the ideological heir to Fidel Castro. Young and photogenic, Capriles has barnstormed the country, visiting more than 300 cities since he began his campaign.
    http://www.foreignpolicy.com/article...est_in_caracas
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    Dont be insulted Count. You just misinterpreted my message. I said that all reporting surrounding chavez is tabloidistic.

    Big bad evil commie Chavez. I think we all already know what the U.S. establishment thinks, so posting the washington post doesn't exactly bring any actual light to the situation. In fact, what you've posted just justifies my claim that articles on Chavez are just tabloidist, wherever they are written.

    Just look at the language used in that excert that you have just posted. ''dwindling supporters'', ''caudillo'' and that new establishment word come bludgeon-stick ''regime''. Indeed, the way they write it, ''and other leftist latin american regimes'', would almost make you think that everything ''left'' was a ''regime''. coincidence?

    Hilarious stuff indeed. So my question would be, why is the american establishment, and its lapdogs in europe, so scared of this guy that they must paint him as satin come again, day in day out, through their propaganda mouthpieces??

    What has he done, or is he doing that makes them hate him so much??

    And finally, why does he and his party continually win verified democratic elections?

    Dont you think that something is amiss here, with such discrepancy between the picture painted of him in papers such as the washington post, and the obvious long-lasting popularity he enjoys in venezuela?

    Oh and just as a little p.s. at the bottom of the page, heres the oposition candidate in 2003 during the coup d'etat ''visiting'' the cuban embasy

    http://www.anarkismo.net/attachments...esradonski.jpg

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    Chávez victory reported by Venezuela Electoral Council.
    Celebrations all over Caracas tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Bobulescu View Post
    Still grumpy because the last attempted "coup" against Chavez didn't work ?
    On Sunday, Oct. 7, however, Capriles's detractors may have to call him something else: winner.
    “ We cannot withdraw our cards from the game. Were we as silent and mute as stones, our very passivity would be an act. ”
    — Jean-Paul Sartre

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    Victory for the forces of progress in Venezuela.
    'International' news media sobbing over their failure.

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    Yes, an emphatic one in the eye for people who refer to Hugo as a "dictator."

    However, with his cancer he may not last the term. The Bolivarian movement should start to look now for a successor lest their achievements fall apart whenever he does go.

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    Congratulations to Hugo Chavez on his reelection by popular vote in an open and fair electoral process.

    Expect the USA to be kicked out of more Latin American discussions over the next 6 years as the Bolivarian process consolidates the emerging hemispheric hegemony: the hegemony of people power and the marginalization of traditional pro-US elites.

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