Is Israel about to attack Iran?

[rebellin]

Anglo-American War Drive Is Escalating Fast
http://laroucheirishbrigade.wordpres...ating-rapidly/

[Count Bobulescu]

As I was saying about concern:

"'The legislation's intent was made clear by Lieberman: "All options must be on the table when it comes to Iran - except for one, and that is containment." He added that "the consequences of a nuclear-armed Iran cannot be 'contained' like the threat of the Soviet Union" - or China, or North Korea, or Pakistan."

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opi...252948572.html

The really scary thing here is that for these people Iraq is not a lesson. Iraq is no reason for caution.
Because the Neo Con/Israelis achieved their objectives in Iraq.
They won.

Mostly agree with your last two posts, but a little context.......

I think the Iranian government does round up professional protesters (students) from time to time to denounce the Great Satan. It is generally portrayed in the US as an oddity of Iranian politics to be ignored. That said……

The people in the Blumenthal video have the under siege laager mentality of the Afrikaans, but the flag waving was real effective. Noticed a heavy Texas component. That state will soon join California as being majority minority, Caucasians less than 50%.

Lieberman is a nuisance, but I wouldn’t be too worried about him going forward. These days he’s a spent force politically. He is not seeking re-election in November and is on a last hurrah. In the name of security he has even introduced a bill that would allow the government to strip people of their citizenship without even notifying them. He had been a lifelong Democrat, but in 2006 the Dems refused to nominate him because he had moved so far away from the party, particularly on Iraq. He managed to win re-election as an independent, and supported McCain over Obama. He is now considered toxic, hence retirement.

They are not getting much support for the Iran Resolution so I don’t think it’s going anywhere.

http://thinkprogress.org/security/20...ran/?mobile=nc

Despite efforts from congressional hawks like Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), Joe Lieberman (I-CT) and John McCain (R-AZ), Senate Democrats are resisting efforts to limit President Obama’s policy options on Iran.
The hawkish Senators’ lack of success is noticeable as the three men are seen as as some of the most influential Senators on foreign policy and national security. But their efforts to roll out a piece of bipartisan legislation pressuring the White House’s hand on diplomacy with Iran has found few allies across the aisle. Sens. Bob Casey Jr. (D-PA) reportedly signed onto the legislation and Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-CT) is rumored to be on board. But Senate Democrats are concerned that the resolution “would be seen as creeping toward an authorization of military force against Iran,” reports The Hill’s Alexander Bolton.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/2...ng-iran-threat

Sponsorship of Enemy Expatriation Act

In January 2012, Lieberman co-sponsored the Enemy Expatriation Act with Congressman Charles Dent (R-PA). The proposal would allow the United States government to strip U.S. citizens of their citizenship without requiring that the citizen have been convicted of any crime.[88]

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/01...ut-conviction/

Congress is considering HR 3166 and S. 1698 also known as the Enemy Expatriation Act, sponsored by Joe Lieberman (I-CT) and Charles Dent (R-PA). This bill would give the US government the power to strip Americans of their citizenship without being convicted of being “hostile” against the United States. In other words, you can be stripped of your nationality for “engaging in, or purposefully and materially supporting, hostilities against the United States.” Legally, the term “hostilities” means any conflict subject to the laws of war but considering the fact that the War on Terror is a little ambiguous and encompassing, any action could be labeled as supporting terrorism. Since the Occupy movement began, conservatives have been trying to paint the protesters as terrorists.

They have only managed to find three co-sponsors in the House and one in the Senate so it’s unlikely to go anywhere. It’s a good indication of how far Lieberman has fallen in esteem. He was Al Gore’s VP pick in 2000 and ran himself in 2004.

[Kev Bar]

Mostly agree with your last two posts, but a little context.......

I think the Iranian government does round up professional protesters (students) from time to time to denounce the Great Satan. It is generally portrayed in the US as an oddity of Iranian politics to be ignored. That said……

The people in the Blumenthal video have the under siege laager mentality of the Afrikaans, but the flag waving was real effective. Noticed a heavy Texas component. That state will soon join California as being majority minority, Caucasians less than 50%.

Lieberman is a nuisance, but I wouldn’t be too worried about him going forward. These days he’s a spent force politically. He is not seeking re-election in November and is on a last hurrah. In the name of security he has even introduced a bill that would allow the government to strip people of their citizenship without even notifying them. He had been a lifelong Democrat, but in 2006 the Dems refused to nominate him because he had moved so far away from the party, particularly on Iraq. He managed to win re-election as an independent, and supported McCain over Obama. He is now considered toxic, hence retirement.

They are not getting much support for the Iran Resolution so I don’t think it’s going anywhere.

http://thinkprogress.org/security/20...ran/?mobile=nc
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/2...ng-iran-threat

Sponsorship of Enemy Expatriation Act

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/01...ut-conviction/
They have only managed to find three co-sponsors in the House and one in the Senate so it’s unlikely to go anywhere. It’s a good indication of how far Lieberman has fallen in esteem. He was Al Gore’s VP pick in 2000 and ran himself in 2004.

Good to hear.

You do indeed to get Death to Great Satan Hordes in Tehran but rarely with such a veneer of well groomed respectability or with presidential candidates in attendance.

"Majority minority"

[C. Flower]

As I was saying about concern:

"'The legislation's intent was made clear by Lieberman: "All options must be on the table when it comes to Iran - except for one, and that is containment." He added that "the consequences of a nuclear-armed Iran cannot be 'contained' like the threat of the Soviet Union" - or China, or North Korea, or Pakistan."

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opi...252948572.html

The really scary thing here is that for these people Iraq is not a lesson. Iraq is no reason for caution.
Because the Neo Con/Israelis achieved their objectives in Iraq.
They won.

Exactly. Bombed the place back to the middle ages, drove sectarian wedges through the population, and, overall, made a profit on it.

[Kev Bar]

A weird world.
But thankfully Securocrats are putting the boot into the bellicose Theocrats:

"I don't believe in a leadership that makes decisions based on messianic feelings."

http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/...442142976.html

[ang]

Israel may not be about to attack Iran but - Emergency Committee for Israel calls for U.S. war on Iran now -

It doesn’t get any more blatant than this: The Emergency Committee for Israel, founded by the aristocrats of the ”Commentary crowd,” the original Republican Likudniks, is now screaming for Obama to attack Iran. ECI put out a press release yesterday announcing that “in light of yet another failed round of nuclear talks with Iran this week,” its 30-second, scare-the-****-out-of-’em ad, “It’s Time to Act,” which began airing last week in New York and Washington, is debuting this weekend in the November election’s battleground states.

http://972mag.com/emergency-committe...medium=twitter

[Count Bobulescu]

I love to see these guys (Kristol & Co.) throwing good money after bad. Just one more issue ad to get lost in the avalanche of such ads.

I’d give more credibility to +972 though if they would tone down their rhetoric a few notches. They sound just like an Israeli version of MSNBC demonizing their opposition and in the process missing the mark. Just like Fox do also. Kristol and Bauer are well known, the other two I’ve never heard of, and they certainly are not at the center of the GOP.

[Kev Bar]

Rock n roll.



Bibi is showing signs of panicking, such as his accusation last week that the generals and spooks counseling him against war were “covering their asses” in case there is a war, it goes wrong and a commission of inquiry comes afterward to assign blame. As Kadima chairman and former IDF chief Shaul Mofaz told Barnea and Shiffer: ”A prime minister who [publicly] accuses the IDF chief of playing CYA in preparation for the day after is a weak prime minister.” A desperate one, I’d say.


http://972mag.com/the-israeli-establ...prising/52611/

[C. Flower]

http://world.time.com/2012/08/13/why...#ixzz23Y8XF61o

There has been a series of media reports in Israel suggesting an attack on Iran is coming in the next 12 weeks. This article asks is it bluff, or is it dangerous brinkmanship that could lead to war.

http://world.time.com/2012/08/13/why...#ixzz23Y8XF61o

[Sam Lord]

This CIA analyst of 30 years believes that Israel is about to strike on it's own fully confident of drawing the US in in its wake.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/08/...-the-election/

[C. Flower]

This CIA analyst of 30 years believes that Israel is about to strike on it's own fully confident of drawing the US in in its wake.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/08/...-the-election/

And other former agent thinks that it suits Israel to protract the threats ad infinitum.

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Backc...oV0RXA.twitter

[Holly]

The Israelis will bomb Iran but they will wait until election day in the US.