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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Lord View Post
    The universe is within you, Grasshopper. Be at peace.

    The Most Astounding Fact (Neil DeGrasse Tyson) - YouTube
    I will rub my legs together with glee.....
    Cause I can’t change, I can’t change the world alone
    I need you all, everybody, start dreaming of it
    And take your step that’s gonna make a difference and change your world
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    Quote Originally Posted by fluffybiscuits View Post
    Reading up moreon Freuds theories on our subconcious. He believed there was a struggle between our ID (subconcious) and our concious mind (our ego ?) and these conflicts explained a lot about our inner turmoil . Only on reconciliation of these could a person be truly at peace...
    Amen!
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    [quote=Trow;231733]You quote 3 wise men there smiles.

    Spiritually, i'm round about here....
    The journey of the sun across the sky and the darkness of night stand for the eternal journey of human consciousness and its transformations. The sun at midday is compared to the Eagle, flying high in the sky. Then it plunges below the horizon, just as we plunge into the dark where we face our spiritual challenges and are transformed. The hidden sun is said to be Jaguar, whose spotted skin symbolizes the Stars glittering in the night sky. Thus, it is called the "Jaguar Sun." Jaguar is the Earth Father. As Earth Father, he presides over the sacred power in the earth and the animals who live upon it. When the Jaguar passes through the Gate of the Abyss and travels through the Void, it is known as the Black Jaguar. In this form, the Jaguar brings the knowledge of Ancient Power beyond Creation, including the ability to renew oneself and gain immortality. The Jaguar's Wisdom includes seeing the roads within Chaos, moving without fear in the darkness, moving in unknown places, being a shape-shifter and psychic sight. The Black Jaguar's Wisdom includes being keeper of the circular time continuum and the Gatekeeper to the Unknowable.[unquote]
    http://www.angelfire.com/md3/metis/st1.html
    It is beautifully poetic, thanks for sharing Trow

    Below is a TEDx Video by a guy called Jeff Lieberman.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Li...n_(roboticist)

    Lieberman, originally from Florida, holds two B.S. degrees, in Mathematics and Physics, and two M.S. degrees, in Mechanical Engineering and Media Arts & Sciences with a focus in Robotics, all from MIT.
    This video is quite close to my thinking of spirituality.. 15 mins is only giving brief outline though..

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0--_R6xThs&feature=player_embedded"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0--_R6xThs&feature=player_embedded[/ame]

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    The search for "Spiritual fulfilment" disappears once we find the truth. Deep down there is a basic longing for truth and we seek to investigate this through readings/messiahs/meditation (whatever).. Even as far as religions (where there may be a residual lingering faint scent of truth)

    But here is an interesting realisation that was came about after investigating the whole concept of direct pointing... There is a lot of talk within a wide range of traditions about the concept of no-self and to most the idea of this is ridiculous, if there is no self then who am I? But when you look, not through any belief system but actually genuinely look, there really is no self, not in reality.. "The self" is a belief system that has been handed down through conditioning. The self is no more than a thought, the thought of "I" that attaches itself to everything. We are no more than characters, make believe. I'm not talking about the body; that is real, the mind; that is real, thoughts, feelings; both real. But "I" is just a label that we are conditioned into believing in, and so attach it to everything. The simplicity of it is hilarious really.

    Again, if you don't "believe" me, good, I would hope not. Instead have a look, investigate within and find a "self" that isn't just a thought

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    Quote Originally Posted by smiles View Post
    The search for "Spiritual fulfilment" disappears once we find the truth. Deep down there is a basic longing for truth and we seek to investigate this through readings/messiahs/meditation (whatever).. Even as far as religions (where there may be a residual lingering faint scent of truth)

    But here is an interesting realisation that was came about after investigating the whole concept of direct pointing... There is a lot of talk within a wide range of traditions about the concept of no-self and to most the idea of this is ridiculous, if there is no self then who am I? But when you look, not through any belief system but actually genuinely look, there really is no self, not in reality.. "The self" is a belief system that has been handed down through conditioning. The self is no more than a thought, the thought of "I" that attaches itself to everything. We are no more than characters, make believe. I'm not talking about the body; that is real, the mind; that is real, thoughts, feelings; both real. But "I" is just a label that we are conditioned into believing in, and so attach it to everything. The simplicity of it is hilarious really.

    Again, if you don't "believe" me, good, I would hope not. Instead have a look, investigate within and find a "self" that isn't just a thought

    Humans have an awful habit of creating labels and "I" probably grew out of a confluence of language and thought that was influenced by it. Its nearly I suppose a summing up of all the feelings, emotions, the physical aspects and used to directly relate to people when someone is talking about themselves.
    Cause I can’t change, I can’t change the world alone
    I need you all, everybody, start dreaming of it
    And take your step that’s gonna make a difference and change your world
    - Hotel FM


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    Potential pointers towards spiritual fulfillment, any tiny step in the right direction creates a butterfly effect.

    1. Become aware of the present moment. Two ways to start are (a) listen; listen with all of your attention, and (b) to become aware of your breath, stay with it for few breaths.
    2. Notice the narration in your head, who is talking to who up there?
    3. Learn to love and respect yourself (this creates a gentle and safe place for you heal)
    4. Consider including more formal meditation into your life.
    5. Heal all past hurts, in whatever way you can, if you are not sure how to do this, enlist the help of a professional, personally I recommend someone specialising in cognitive behavioural therapy, but it really is a personal thing and I think it is more important that you find the right therapist.
    6. Allow yourself to heal (Which is why point three is important)
    7. Be patient with yourself through this process, but accept if you are not.
    8. As you heal on the inside, the heaviness releases. This expansion is reflected externally .


    A few realisations the above list has brought me:

    Expansiveness = Light, Higher frequency. Contraction = Dark, lower frequency. Everything in balance

    Duality merges, inner conflict subsides, and you become more conscious of the present moment as there is less noise distracting you from what you are experiencing right now.

    You see through the illusion of the egoic self, and how fragile that illusion is, which is why we protect it so much. You cannot know how much it is limiting you until you see through it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smiles View Post
    Potential pointers towards spiritual fulfillment, any tiny step in the right direction creates a butterfly effect.

    1. Become aware of the present moment. Two ways to start are (a) listen; listen with all of your attention, and (b) to become aware of your breath, stay with it for few breaths.
    2. Notice the narration in your head, who is talking to who up there?
    3. Learn to love and respect yourself (this creates a gentle and safe place for you heal)
    4. Consider including more formal meditation into your life.
    5. Heal all past hurts, in whatever way you can, if you are not sure how to do this, enlist the help of a professional, personally I recommend someone specialising in cognitive behavioural therapy, but it really is a personal thing and I think it is more important that you find the right therapist.
    6. Allow yourself to heal (Which is why point three is important)
    7. Be patient with yourself through this process, but accept if you are not.
    8. As you heal on the inside, the heaviness releases. This expansion is reflected externally .


    A few realisations the above list has brought me:

    Expansiveness = Light, Higher frequency. Contraction = Dark, lower frequency. Everything in balance

    Duality merges, inner conflict subsides, and you become more conscious of the present moment as there is less noise distracting you from what you are experiencing right now.

    You see through the illusion of the egoic self, and how fragile that illusion is, which is why we protect it so much. You cannot know how much it is limiting you until you see through it.
    Im with you on most of these bar the above highlighted. Sometimes lashing out has a positive effect and this is not justifications for some past hurt I caused but the odd time we need to be cruel to be kind and its a horrible thing to do. I do agree though with mending the fences with people whom were have aggreaved in the past is something that could heal some old wounds. Your point on awareness is particularly something a lot of people could build upon themselves. Awareness of ones own surroundings gives a sense of connectivity with the world at large and with humanity itself. Connectivity stops us from feeling alone in this big world but its also exciting, meeting new people etc
    Cause I can’t change, I can’t change the world alone
    I need you all, everybody, start dreaming of it
    And take your step that’s gonna make a difference and change your world
    - Hotel FM


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