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    34 TDs claimed over €50,000 in expenses last year -

    An almost anonymous top five, Mattie is the only Independent on this list receives a leaders allowance of 23k too of course


    1. Noel Harrington (FG) Cork South West: €53,714.95

    2=Arthur Spring (Lab) Kerry North/West Limerick: €52,447.09

    2=Jim Daly (FG) Cork South West: €52,477.09

    3=Michael Moynihan (FF) Cork North West: €51,808.09

    3=Joe McHugh (FF) Donegal North East: €51,808.09

    3=Charlie McConalogue (FF) Donegal North East: €51,808.09

    3=Pearse Doherty (SF) Donegal South West: €51,808.09

    3=Áine Collins (FG) Cork North West: €51,808.09

    4=David Stanton (FG) Cork East: €51,179.23

    4=Jonathan O’Brien (SF) Cork North Central: €51,179.23

    4=Dara Murphy (FG) Cork North Central: €51,179.23

    4=Michelle Mulherin (FG) Mayo: €51,179.23

    4=Michael McGrath (FF) Cork South Central: €51,179.23

    4=Micheál Martin (FF) Cork South Central: €51,179.23

    4=Ciarán Lynch (Lab) Cork South Central: €51,179.23

    4=Joe Carey (FG) Clare: €51,179.23

    4=Pat Breen (FG) Clare: €51,179.23

    5. Pádraig Mac Lochlainn (SF) Donegal North East: €51,174.19

    6. Jerry Buttimer (FG) Cork South Central: €50,645.30

    7=Brian Walsh (Lab) Galway West: €50,540.23

    7=Patrick O’Donovan (FG) Limerick: €50,540.23

    7=Colm Keaveney (Lab) Galway East: €50,540.23

    7=Sean Kyne (FG) Galway West: €50,540.23

    7=Sandra McLellan (SF) Cork East: €50,540.23

    7=Tony McLoughlin (FG) Sligo North Leitrim €50,540.23

    7=Tom Barry (FG) Cork East: €50,540.23

    7=Timmy Dooley (FF) Clare: €50,529.23

    8=Niall Collins (FF) Limerick: €50,225.80

    8=Michael Colreavy (SF) Sligo North Leitrim €50,225.80

    8=Ciara Conway (Lab) Waterford: €50,225.80

    8=Mattie McGrath (Ind) Tipperary South: €50,225.80

    8=Michael McNamara (Lab) Clare: €50,225.80

    8=Derek Nolan (Lab) Galway West: €50,225.80

    8=Willie O’Dea (FF) Limerick City: €50,225.80

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    Bit disappointed with some shinners being so high, but tbf they do have a long way to travel.
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    These people are looters. If they were on the street in a curfew and helping themselves to anything going it would be legal for soldiers to fire a warning and thereafter shoot them.

    They are just filling their boots while they can and are nothing but statutory looters.
    Think National. Act Local. Oh- and superstition is just the dark matter of human history.

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    Labour TD Eamonn Maloney (DubSW) claimed .... nothing for travel and expenses in 2011

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo View Post
    Bit disappointed with some shinners being so high, but tbf they do have a long way to travel.
    absolutely, can't be easy on the average wage either

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    The two SWP claimed €31,865.51 exactly each. Not seeing figures for the SP yet.
    More on the Dublin TDs here .

    TDs are entitled to 12k if they live less then 25km from Leinster House

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saoirse go Deo View Post
    Bit disappointed with some shinners being so high, but tbf they do have a long way to travel.
    Greed knows no party boundaries.
    I dropped out of communism class because of lousy Marx.

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    It looks distance related, fair enough, but it's still a hell of a lot.

    It's €7,000 a year to run a car, roughly.

    What do expenses cover exactly ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post

    What do expenses cover exactly ?
    travel & accommodation

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    They should cover the actual costs incurred in carrying out duties for one's occupation. We know that in the private sector the most hilarious items are included as tax deductible or expenses against the business. [Just check out Mark Zuckerberg or talk to one of your family who is a company director]

    Some expenses have traditionally included the cost of putting one's car at the service of the employer for required journeys. Consequently the rate was much more than just petrol costs and rose after one had undertaken 2,000 miles travel for the institution. These rates have been drastically reduced in recent years. The rules in the public sector were clear enough. Where a train service existed, car expenses were not paid. Taxis were. The train tickets were obtained from the institution which had an arrangement with Iarnród Eireann. Claims would be refused where mileage, or train costs were not in line and only receipts would justify a taxi expense. Only economy seats would be re-imbursed for air travel and only if booked through the official procurement office. From the individual’s point of view it was a pain, and if one did not have someone to help make these arrangements, a complete waste of time.

    Different arrangements have existed in relation to overnight accommodation and meals. Sometimes a fixed per diem allowance and sometimes a receipts-only system.

    I was hopeless at expenses. I hated the paperwork and always felt too busy after doing whatever incurred the expenses to submit them on time.( Right eejit in retrospec)
    . As a consequence the items I had forgotten to get receipts for came out of the household budget, and once I got a very angry letter to the effect that if I didn't submit my expenses on time, they could not sign off on my report.

    Clearly others are more vigilant.

    I have absolutely no problem with people claiming expenses, especially where the household budget is in no way able to carry the weight of such expenses, but they should be vouched for and be directly the consequence of the duty undertaken.

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    Pure greed by them all.

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    Would you care to expand on that Culmore?
    How is it greed to recoup money spent from your household budget in carrying out your responsibilities? We are not talking here about fraudulent claims for multiple mobile phones, or false mileage from second homes to your constituency. Just the costs imposed by the job.

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    over €50.000 a year is too much to travel to dublin from anywhere in Ireland, petrol may be dear but hotel rooms are less than half of what they were a couple of year ago. most people with a job have ot pay their own way to get there. Its a total waste of money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    What do expenses cover exactly ?
    I dropped out of communism class because of lousy Marx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by culmore View Post
    over €50.000 a year is too much to travel to dublin from anywhere in Ireland, petrol may be dear but hotel rooms are less than half of what they were a couple of year ago. most people with a job have ot pay their own way to get there. Its a total waste of money.
    For what purpose? If sent by their employer, are you saying they cannot get back the costs of their petrol? If self-employed, they can deduct/claim the whole car as a business expense, less BIK. To what are you referring?

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