The Poverty of the Greek people

[C. Flower]

Recently in London and a tube/underground advertisement for a random office services company featured "we're going to buy up Greece - and Ireland" as its 'joke'.

Meanwhile, massive cuts and privatisation is being pushed through in the UK, and there is real poverty there at the same time as some people are enriching themselves through privatisation.

[Ephilant]

Recently in London and a tube/underground advertisement for a random office services company featured "we're going to buy up Greece - and Ireland" as its 'joke'.

Meanwhile, massive cuts and privatisation is being pushed through in the UK, and there is real poverty there at the same time as some people are enriching themselves through privatisation.

As I just said,

instead of shooting the messenger, you would do a lot better in heeding the message. You just don't know what's around the corner.

I'm not too sure the Ireland bit is a "joke". Did I read something somewhere about the Irish Government starting to sell off Government owned harbours? And is Bertie still after the woodlands?

[C. Flower]

As I just said,


I'm not too sure the Ireland bit is a "joke". Did I read something somewhere about the Irish Government starting to sell off Government owned harbours? And is Bertie still after the woodlands?

I've noticed a trend to appointments of British candidates to Irish bodies - RTE and the HSE most recently. We could reinstate all the content of colonial rule without all the hassle of political restructuring, just by making the right appointments and selling off the right assets. Also, not a joke.

[Ephilant]

I've noticed a trend to appointments of British candidates to Irish bodies - RTE and the HSE most recently. We could reinstate all the content of colonial rule without all the hassle of political restructuring, just by making the right appointments and selling off the right assets. Also, not a joke.

The price of an extra loan from Uncle David? Take a few civil servants of his payroll?

[Binn Beal]

I accept that you may have used the offensive remark unintentionally.

But are we now straying into the area of 'Irish jobs for Irish workers' which is one of the basic planks in the platforms of most European fascist movements.

In any event, I think we can rest assured that any number of British people who are employed here are more than offset by a greater number of Irish in Britain.

[C. Flower]

I accept that you may have used the offensive remark unintentionally.

But are we now straying into the area of 'Irish jobs for Irish workers' which is one of the basic planks in the platforms of most European fascist movements.

In any event, I think we can rest assured that any number of British people who are employed here are more than offset by a greater number of Irish in Britain.

Nothing to do with Irish jobs for Irish workers, and much more to do with an agenda that includes making cuts and privatising services, and basic allegiance to the interests of this State. Anyone who thinks that the way to overcome our problems with local and national services is to have them run by a foreign country needs to check the history books. There are some political positions that can only be held by citizens and there are voting restrictions on non citizens. What is the sense in that, if non citizens can run, say, the Department of Finance or the Department of Justice ?

[Ephilant]

Nothing to do with Irish jobs for Irish workers, and much more to do with an agenda that includes making cuts and privatising services, and basic allegiance to the interests of this State. Anyone who thinks that the way to overcome our problems with local and national services is to have them run by a foreign country needs to check the history books. There are some political positions that can only be held by citizens and there are voting restrictions on non citizens. What is the sense in that, if non citizens can run, say, the Department of Finance or the Department of Justice ?

Apart from that, I would have a good look at the contracts handed to these people. Probably limited in time, fixed renumeration, and totally undermining any contractual obligation the Irish State may have if the same jobs had been awarded to qualifying Irish Civil Servant. You could almost say a bit like illegal immigrants at the top end of the scale, being used to dismantle negotiated, existing Irish employment conditions?

[Binn Beal]

And they are probably Protestants.

[Ephilant]

And they are probably Protestants.

Sneering at somebody's religious belief is not a result of poverty or recession. It's who you are - and I don't accept that you speak for the Irish people

[Binn Beal]

Touché! An Ephilant never forgets.

[Ephilant]

Touché! An Ephilant never forgets.

[C. Flower]

And they are probably Protestants.

Well having heard last night on RTE that one of the former DGs was a US intelligence professional was just a reminder that these 'top'appointments aren't always inert.

Would the Greeks want a former German civil servant running their Department of Finance ?

Oooops......

[riposte]

Well having heard last night on RTE that one of the former DGs was a US intelligence professional was just a reminder that these 'top'appointments aren't always inert.

Would the Greeks want a former German civil servant running their Department of Finance ?

Oooops......

Cactus ..... sorry if this is off thread ..... but I can't resist pointing out that no day ever goes by without a CIA operative being interviewed on RTE... on Syria, Libya etc, etc, etc,. I think they have a dozen on the payroll ..... including a couple of the presenters.

Never mind what happened in RTE in the 1960s when there were few if any with experience of running a TV station in Irealnd

[Binn Beal]

The Brits also infiltrated the GPO in 1916 and one of them even signed the proclamation. We clearly need stricter racial profiling and maybe even blood and DNA tests to make sure only genetically pure Irish people run the country.

[C. Flower]

The Brits also infiltrated the GPO in 1916 and one of them even signed the proclamation. We clearly need stricter racial profiling and maybe even blood and DNA tests to make sure only genetically pure Irish people run the country.

Well, by and large, the Brits shelled the hell out of it and executed the survivors.

But you do have a point

But I will have my weather-eye open for how these high level parachutists perform.