Declan Ganley's Federal Europe - Whose Agenda ?

[People Korps]

Would nt mind him or gurdgiev been on the show, just as long as they are introduced as "who" they are in real life, or if there is some one on same panel to challenge them! anytime i have seen them on , no one , even RBB or Kieran Allen seemed to be able to lay a glove on them !

People Korps would however show them the door to their public lives .......and Richard Boyd Barret is part of the establishment I am an almost academic and not. I would give you Ganley's or Gurdiev's heads (metaphorically speaking) on a platter in a brief debate/discussion with them face to face.

Give me both together or either alone on national TV for a brief moment ...it will involve me being myself ie the real People Korps and they being themselves ie the real losers that they are.
When [Mod] like David Quinn talk of smears against Ganley he libels my blogger name ...I would also like him on the Ganley plus Gurdiev versus People Korps panel....If Ganley has a set he will request that this challenge be accepted by Vincent Browne and TV3, he will accept is and approve it and lobby for it to clear his name!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! .

Ganley if you are even half a man lets fight it out on TV


People Korps is here and willing to divulge his real identity in a national TV showdown ....are the Christaliban up for it? Is the wolf in wolves clothing up for it? Come on ladies the gauntlet is dropped

[People Korps]

i Mean no pejorative to women .... likening Gurdiev, Ganley and Quinn to the fairer sex, I am merely attempting to appeal to their Machismo in the hope that they will accept the challenge

[C. Flower]

Who's agenda? PK has perhaps found a clue - this blog piece by a UK commentator - James Rogers - described in PK's blog as "spook boy" due to his impeccable "spook boy" credentials -

http://peoplekorps.blogspot.com/

http://europeangeostrategy.ideasoneu...declan-ganley/

[fluffybiscuits]

Decco is doing a talk on Europe in NUI Maynooth Thursday week, any takers...?
From his twitter

I'll be presenting on it at an event in NUI Maynooth on Thursday week & later in March at a Cambridge Uni event in London.

[Spectabilis]

While the article you link to states that Lynton Crosby was the mastermind, it says nothing more. In what way was he a mastermind? Was it of the strategy of Libertas and the campaign? Was he hired or admired?

[Kev Bar]

While the article you link to states that Lynton Crosby was the mastermind, it says nothing more. In what way was he a mastermind? Was it of the strategy of Libertas and the campaign? Was he hired or admired?

You are asking the wrong person.

...
I think hired, though. I would need to go back and look.

As a rule of thumb, these guys are not great on civic spirit and working for free.

Cos it's 'all about me'.

[Spectabilis]

I'll hang around until People Korps gets here then.

[Dojo]

I have selected the summary of the lengthy Business Post piece to reproduce here as the link I provided is behind a paywall.



"1 The position of president of the European Commission and president of the European Council should be merged into one office-holder and should be made subject of a popular democratic election to be held not later than December 2013. Voters should be weighted in an ‘electoral college' type format so that smaller member states voters are not made irrelevant. This president would serve for one six-year term only and would be chief executive in the same manner as the president of the United States of America. An accommodation could be made to remaining European monarchies in respect of their historic traditions, to allow for some ceremonial roles.

Sounds good, though six years seems a bit long.

2 The commission should become the servant of the executive arm and be filled by the nomination of the democratically elected president, and the ratification of a newly created upper house of the European Parliament.

Agreed, though the "lower house", presumably the current EP, should have an equal say in approving nominations to the new European Cabinet.

3 An upper house or senate should be created, with four representatives of each member state each holding equal voting power. That is to say, Ireland will have four senators, as will Germany and other states. This upper house will be given the co-right to initiate legislation along with the lower house, the current EU Parliament.

Why four? Surely one would be more than enough?! The Senate should be modelled on the German Bundesrat, the upper house of the German Parliament, where Senators, or whatever they're called serve at the pleasure of the member state and speak for their government. A bit like the current Council of Ministers, just with a single, permanent representative and not the rotating carnival of ministers attending based on a particular brief like agriculture or foreign affairs.

4 The European Parliament should be reformed to give greater balance for population (which would favour larger member states) and should be given the power (along with its upper house) to initiate legislation.

Disagree. Better to give preferential voting rights to smaller countries. The larger countries already have too much power.

5 All lobbying of the executive and legislative branch must be registered and transparent.

Surely this is already the case.

6 A full insolvency purge of all European financial institutions should be immediately undertaken. A liquidation and asset sale of all unhealthy institutions should take place forthwith. A writedown of significant size, together with a Hamiltonian scale re-negotiation should take place on all distressed EU member state debts. The federalising of all remaining state debt should immediately follow, backed by the issue of union bonds backed by the entire tax revenue of the eurozone.

Should have already taken place.

7 The union civil service should be kept small and highly efficient; this should be enshrined in Europe's new constitutional arrangement. A debt ceiling will also be set constitutionally.

Agree in principle.

8 The union should have monopoly of external action both in soft and hard power.

Member states should have the ability to opt out of any union foreign policy or defence arrangement if they wish.

9 The ECB should be guaranteed full independence and a low inflation policy be pursued.

The ECB already has full independence and doggedly maintains a low inflation policy at all costs.

10 The official language of the union should be English. We understand the major sensitivities involved, but it is necessary to have one official language amongst so many, so as to remove any scope for ambiguity in laws and regulations or their interpretations.

A silly proposal. The Swiss manage to get by with four working languages. There are many multi-lingual nations that get by fine. Hell even the US, Ganley's dream for Europe, is now moving towards bi-lingualism with Spanish being increasingly spoken in many states.

11 The automatic right of secession for any member state should be provided for with a two-thirds majority of the acceding polity.

And what's wrong with a simple majority vote?

A new union settlement should be achieved by the urgent holding of a convention of pan-European delegates specifically elected for that purpose. These elections can be held quickly and will have a democratic legitimacy that the current spate of limp summitry lacks.
What is agreed at the convention, to be concluded by a fixed date, should then be put to the electorates of the entire union in a pan-European referendum to be held on the same date following an appropriate campaigning period (eg three months). Those member states voting ‘yes' would be in, those voting ‘no' would be out, with the possibility of joining by mutual agreement at some future point."


Some people seem puzzled that Ganley, described as a Eurosceptic, is promoting a federal Europe. He never was a Eurosceptic in the usual sense of the word. Rather he wanted a Europe cut to his own measure in which he could rival an Obama as a President of a United States of Europe. I think he was inspired by the campaign of 2012 for POTUS. This, I think is the first clear statement of these ambitions.

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[Kev Bar]

I'll hang around until People Korps gets here then.

Keep your eyes peeled.
I sent up the beam.

[Kev Bar]

Hark.
Tea is served.
And soon
They'll all be clamouring to get to the table

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...g-in-from-cold

[Assam]

well, 2015 is still a world away and who knows? ... however, a couple of humble observations -

- thank you so much for the info above re Crosby and Ganley - I hadn't known of that connection - that gives me some hope this week, I have to say :-) :-O

- Farage and UKIP are currently having a field day and that includes among many wishy-washy liberal friends of mine in London - these are people who are basically, at heart, despite their best wishes, English nationalists with an admittedly very small N. But it's there. And Farage is smart, comfortably minted from his City years, very funny / witty - a not inconsiderable attribute.
The fact that Cameron has taken on dog-whistle Crosby shows just how nervy he is at the moment - both Johnson and Farage (from either side of the political spectrum) have had a good year.

- all parties in the UK, including / especially Labour, are playing with Euro-scepticism at the moment. It's so easy. There are 29 million Romanians headed this way next year, aren't there? Are there? Britain is paying for French (etc) farmers, aren't they?

Anyway, Laboour is playing a very tricky game at the moment. They are frankly very much on the back foot on a lot of these EU issues at the moment - certain moments from the 2010 campaign still playing very badly.

Guardianistas going on about 2 tiered / multi-centred Europe et al ... hmmm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...pe?INTCMP=SRCH

[Kev Bar]

well, 2015 is still a world away and who knows? ... however, a couple of humble observations -

- thank you so much for the info above re Crosby and Ganley - I hadn't known of that connection - that gives me some hope this week, I have to say :-) :-O

- Farage and UKIP are currently having a field day and that includes among many wishy-washy liberal friends of mine in London - these are people who are basically, at heart, despite their best wishes, English nationalists with an admittedly very small N. But it's there. And Farage is smart, comfortably minted from his City years, very funny / witty - a not inconsiderable attribute.
The fact that Cameron has taken on dog-whistle Crosby shows just how nervy he is at the moment - both Johnson and Farage (from either side of the political spectrum) have had a good year.

- all parties in the UK, including / especially Labour, are playing with Euro-scepticism at the moment. It's so easy. There are 29 million Romanians headed this way next year, aren't there? Are there? Britain is paying for French (etc) farmers, aren't they?

Anyway, Laboour is playing a very tricky game at the moment. They are frankly very much on the back foot on a lot of these EU issues at the moment - certain moments from the 2010 campaign still playing very badly.

Guardianistas going on about 2 tiered / multi-centred Europe et al ... hmmm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...pe?INTCMP=SRCH

Thanks for the backdrop.

[C. Flower]

Declan Ganley is speaking to a meeting at UCC tonight on this topic.

A Federal Europe?' lecture by @declanganley in UCC today - live tweeting of the lecture here by @ucceuropa https://twitter.com/ucceuropa

I believe there is a meeting coming up in County Cork (Ballyhea related?) and also in Dublin.

Quite active for the "private citizen" he said he was last week.

[Dr. FIVE]

a free market ensures no business can capture policy makers

lolol,

[C. Flower]

RT @JohnBurnsST Sindo p5 Amid growing discontent within FG over abortion, speculation is mounting dissidents in talks with @declanganley