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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Lord View Post
    Hmmmm ...

    You asked why he was suggesting that people should be fined for something that was not illegal when he was not suggesting anything of the sort.

    It seems pretty clear that you misunderstood the point he was making.
    Sometimes small steps are needed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Biffo View Post
    Sometimes small steps are needed.

    One step forward and two steps back for the Biffo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolly Red Giant View Post
    One step forward and two steps back for the Biffo
    The medics say I need the exercise.

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    Irish Times on opposition Troika meeting today

    “One of the main points was the reaffirmation by the troika that the Government has a great deal of flexibility in framing the budget,” said the party’s finance spokesman, Michael McGrath.

    “The overall target of €3.5 billion has to be achieved, but the individual components of that are entirely a matter for Government, including the introduction of a property tax.” The troika is open to good quality alternative suggestions as long as fiscal targets are achieved, he added.
    Why then is this explicitly in the MOU

    On the tax side, we will build on the base-broadening measures outlined above and establish a sound basis for sub-national finances through a new residential-property based site value tax.
    last budget

    Revenue measures to yield €1,500m4 in a full year will be adopted, including:
    - A lowering of personal income tax bands and credits.
    - A reduction in private pension tax reliefs.
    - A reduction in general tax expenditures.
    - A property tax.
    - A reform of capital gains tax and acquisitions tax.
    - An increase in the carbon tax.
    this coming budget

    Revenue measures to raise at least €1,100m5 in the full year will be introduced, including:
    - A lowering of personal income tax bands and credits.
    - A reduction in private pension tax relief.
    - A reduction in general tax expenditures.
    - An increase in property tax.
    Kill Harry McGee to check the facts or am I missing something other then the usual?

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    three summonses for non-declaration

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...326035499.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. FIVE View Post
    three summonses for non-declaration

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...326035499.html
    There's no sign of the support such people would need either. I'm going to pay mine next week,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. FIVE View Post
    three summonses for non-declaration

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...326035499.html
    Interesting. Looks like the enforcement phase is kicking off:
    Meanwhile, Mayo County Council has confirmed it has issued eight summonses, relating to 25 properties, in relation to non-payment of household charges.

    Acting county secretary John McHale explained yesterday: “These summonses were issued following a number of reminder letters to multiple property owners.

    “This is the commencement of the next phase of an ongoing process for collection of household charges that is being implemented on a nationwide basis,” he said.

    “It is expected that other local authorities will be issuing proceedings in the coming days and weeks.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. FIVE View Post
    three summonses for non-declaration

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...326035499.html
    Mary Devins ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bernadette View Post
    There's no sign of the support such people would need either. I'm going to pay mine next week,
    The Anti-HC campaign is for the most part about votes for SP/SWP and Mayo wouldn't be the most fertile ground for that.

    Now that they've been caught with their trousers down they'll probably mount an expedition to the West for the resumption of the case in December.

    Since this is a live case we should be mindful when posting that the accused are entitled to due process and the presumption of innocence.

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    Back up.....

    This is low hanging fruit

    "it was an offence to fail to make a declaration and it was a separate offence to fail to pay the household charge."

    Easy, peasy, well known flat owners in Westport?? As the French say 'pour encourager les autres' - frightener.....

    Note the amount of publicity - slow news week, pliant local hack, fed by the CoCo.......

    what else?? oh yes, lawyers fees, presumably FG supporters....

    I ask the question - again - how much is all this costing? - ask your TD to ask the question, what is the proposed nett income from the various troika proposed new money raising ideas, especially ones like the septic tank registration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Biffo View Post
    The Anti-HC campaign is for the most part about votes for SP/SWP and Mayo wouldn't be the most fertile ground for that.

    Now that they've been caught with their trousers down they'll probably mount an expedition to the West for the resumption of the case in December.

    Since this is a live case we should be mindful when posting that the accused are entitled to due process and the presumption of innocence.


    Especially when Judge Mary Devins as she has form ya know.

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    Trying to find out if Uncle Joe had anything to say about the latest development I came on this page from last December. And who's that looking out at us but the fragrant Clare Daly.



    Someone will be heading for Siberia for not airbrushing that shot.

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    Baron,

    Have a good look at Judge Devins which was penned by well known Shell campaigner M Harrington.



    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...321371171.html
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...321296119.html
    Last edited by Spectabilis; 02-11-2012 at 09:42 AM.

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