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    From an Email Listserv.

    Watch yer back, any anti US comments on here, and they’re gonna zap your kettle and toaster. And so they should!

    CONGRESS AUTHORIZES MILITARY ACTION IN CYBERSPACE

    Congress has given the U.S. military a green light to conduct offensive military activities in cyberspace.

    "Congress affirms that the Department of Defense has the capability, and upon direction by the President may conduct offensive operations in cyberspace to defend our Nation, allies and interests," said the FY 2012 defense authorization act that was adopted in conference this week (section 954).

    The blanket authorization for offensive cyber operations is conditional on compliance with the law of armed conflict, and the War Powers Resolution, which mandated congressional consultation in decisions to go to war.

    "The conferees recognize that because of the evolving nature of cyber warfare, there is a lack of historical precedent for what constitutes traditional military activities in relation to cyber operations and that it is necessary to affirm that such operations may be conducted pursuant to the same policy, principles, and legal regimes that pertain to kinetic capabilities," the conference report on the defense authorization act said.

    "The conferees also recognize that in certain instances, the most effective way to deal with threats and protect U.S. and coalition forces is to undertake offensive military cyber activities, including where the role of the United States Government is not apparent or to be acknowledged."

    "The conferees stress that, as with any use of force, the War Powers Resolution may apply."

    This is an odd formulation which suggests that the War Powers Resolution may also not apply. In any case, the Resolution is a weak reed that has rarely been used by Congress to constrain executive action.

    According to the Congressional Research Service, "Debate continues on whether using the War Powers Resolution is effective as a means of assuring congressional participation in decisions that might get the United States involved in a significant military conflict."
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    Obama was showing an interest in control of the internet even before elected. He had a Mr. Sunstein working on this.

    In times of war, the PW community might have to revert to the use of semaphor and carrier pigeons.

    In peace, disruption of the internet would cripple the economy and society as a whole to the extent that it would be counterproductive. The internet was blocked in Cairo on a number of occasions, without any visible impact on events.

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    The Americans have caught the Israeli disease and vice versa. Both of them are effectively repressive police states it is just that the US has a bigger PR industry.
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    The Americans really love that stuff, since it is warfare without rules or moral restrictions, not that they've ever cared much for either anyway...
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    I haven't noticed any US/Israeli apologists operating on Political World.

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    I have. There was a Lapsed Eskimo that sometimes goes by the name 'Former Eskimo' or something that basically appears like Bishop Brennan every time the Made Up State is mentioned to tell us that we're all mistaken and the Israelis are just misunderstood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Con O'Sullivan View Post
    I have. There was a Lapsed Eskimo that sometimes goes by the name 'Former Eskimo' or something that basically appears like Bishop Brennan every time the Made Up State is mentioned to tell us that we're all mistaken and the Israelis are just misunderstood.
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    Y'know it's funny the way we weaponize everything.
    Even the Internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by musashi View Post
    Y'know it's funny the way we weaponize everything.
    Even the Internet.
    It is even funnier when people don't realise that it was and is effectively a weapon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmcc View Post
    It is even funnier when people don't realise that it was and is effectively a weapon.

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    The big fear in the US is that a sophisticated cyber attack would knock out the power grid and turn off the water supply nationally with all the downstream effects that would ensue. There have been a few brief localized unexplained/suspicious events in that dept. over the last few years
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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Bobulescu View Post
    The big fear in the US is that a sophisticated cyber attack would knock out the power grid and turn off the water supply nationally with all the downstream effects that would ensue. There have been a few brief localized unexplained/suspicious events in that dept. over the last few years
    Critical infrastructure is obviously a target and measures have to be taken to protect it. The real, virtual, world isn't quite as safe as people think.

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    Not exactly cyber warfare, but related. The highlighted text is a mixture of direct quotation, and commentary thereon.


    JASON ON SEVERE SPACE WEATHER AND THE ELECTRIC GRID

    The U.S. electric power grid is vulnerable to damage from severe electromagnetic solar storms and remedial measures should be taken to reduce that vulnerability, a new study (large pdf) from the JASON scientific advisory panel concluded.

    On the other hand, the JASONs said, catastrophic worst-case scenarios advanced by some are not plausible, and they should not serve as a basis for policy making.

    Public disclosure of the new JASON study was blocked by the Department of Homeland Security, which sponsored the analysis.

    "Concerns about the vulnerabilities of technical infrastructure to space weather have been growing since the sun entered the early stages of the current sunspot cycle in 2009, increasing prospects for severe solar storms," the report said.

    "We agree that the U.S. electric grid remains vulnerable," the JASONs concluded. "Mitigation should be undertaken as soon as possible to reduce the vulnerability of the U.S. grid. The cost appears modest compared to just the economic impact of a single storm," they added.

    But the panel declined to endorse a worst-case scenario proposed in 2010 by J. Kappenman (large pdf), who envisioned "the possibility of catastrophic damage to the U.S. electric grid, leaving millions without power for months to years."

    "We are not convinced that the worst case scenario... is plausible. Nor is the analysis it is based on, using proprietary algorithms, suitable for deciding national policy," the JASON report said.

    Instead, "a rigorous and fully transparent risk analysis should be done of the U.S. grid." See "Impacts of Severe Space Weather on the Electric Grid," JASON report JSR-11-320, November 2011.

    Ironically, the Department of Homeland Security, which requested the JASON study, refused to make it publicly available. In a November 20 letter, DHS said that no portion of the study would be released under the Freedom of Information Act because it was subject to the "deliberative process privilege." A copy of the report was obtained independently.
    Same, not worth a thread, but see who has been spending the most on US military equipment over the last decade, sorted by region and globally. 11 easy tables here.

    http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/weapons/R42121.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Bobulescu View Post
    Not exactly cyber warfare, but related. The highlighted text is a mixture of direct quotation, and commentary thereon.
    What is cyber warfare?
    A very mercurial concept.
    What is flaming, trolling, spamming, phishing, DDoSing but LAN skirmishes on the Net.
    Ultimately tho the medium is the message, perpetual data war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by musashi View Post
    What is cyber warfare?
    Wikipedia is your friend: (Just for the non-techies rather than yourself as you may be a techie or at least clueful.)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberwarfare

    Still there are elements that are not included in that article.

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    From today’s WSJ.


    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...LEFTTopStories

    TOP TALKER - WSJ 4-col. lead, "China Hackers Hit U.S. Chamber: Attacks Breached Computer System of Business-Lobbying Group; Emails Stolen," by Siobhan Gorman: "The break-in at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce is one of the boldest known infiltrations in what has become a regular confrontation between U.S. companies and Chinese hackers. The complex operation, which involved at least 300 Internet addresses, was discovered and quietly shut down in May 2010. ... Chamber officials say internal investigators found evidence that hackers had focused on four Chamber employees who worked on Asia policy, and that six weeks of their email had been stolen. It is possible the hackers had access to the network for more than a year before the breach was uncovered ... The Chamber learned of the break-in when the Federal Bureau of Investigation told the group that servers in China were stealing its information ...
    "The Chamber moved to shut down the hacking operation by unplugging and destroying some computers and overhauling its security system. The security revamp was timed for a 36-hour period over one weekend when the hackers, who kept regular working hours, were expected to be off duty. ... Chamber officials said they ... determined that communications with fewer than 50 of its members were compromised. They notified those members. ... [T]he emails revealed the names of companies and key people in contact with the Chamber, as well as trade-policy documents, meeting notes, trip reports and schedules."
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