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    A new HET (Historical Enquiries Team) Report has confirmed UDR collusion in the Miami Showband Massacre in 1975. The Report confirms that Thatcher was aware of "loyalist infiltration of the UDR."

    Stephen Travers is talking about the report on RTE news.

    They knew that the people involved were UDR and UDR uniforms ght fatigue
    "A man arrived on the scene who wore a different uniform and s
    crisp educated "posh English" accent."

    "I found an old Evening Herald dated 14th August 1975, 14 days after the incident, the interview done 2 or 3 days earlier, and Brian said a British Army officer is there."

    Travers also referred to psychiatric debriefing afterwards.
    "We had to see a psychiatrist" and that Sodium Pentathol to "bring out the incident" was discussed.

    Three members of the band were shot dead in July 1975 after their minibus was stopped by a fake army patrol. The HET report found that UVF man Robin Jackson had been linked to one of the murder weapons by fingerprints. Jackson claimed in police interviews he had been tipped off by a senior RUC officer to lie low after the killings.



    Police headquarters was told about that, but nothing was done.


    The Historical Enquiries Team report said that Jackson, a leading mid-Ulster UVF member also known as "the Jackal", claimed that he was tipped off that his fingerprints had been found on a silencer attached to a Luger pistol used in the murders.


    The HET said the murders raised "disturbing questions about collusive and corrupt behaviour". It said the review "has found no means to assuage or rebut these concerns and that is a deeply troubling matter".
    Jackson went on trial in November 1976 charged with possession of the silencer.


    A judge rejected his defence that his fingerprints were on tape around the gun and had been innocently transferred. However, the judge acquitted him, saying this did not prove that Jackson knew that he was in possession of a Luger silencer, nor did it show that he had agreed to such possession.


    The fake army patrol was made up of soldiers from the Ulster Defence Regiment (UDR) and members of loyalist paramilitary group, the Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF).


    The Miami Showband was travelling home to Dublin after a gig in Banbridge, County Down, when the minibus was stopped at a roadblock.
    The members of the band were made to line up at the side of the road while one UVF member tried to hide a bomb on the bus. The plan was that the bomb would explode en route killing everyone on board.
    But the bomb went off prematurely, killing Harris Boyle and Wesley Somerville - who were members of the UDR, as well as being in the UVF.
    After the explosion the other members of the UVF gang opened fire on the band, killing lead singer Fran O'Toole, guitarist Tony Geraghty, and trumpeter Brian McCoy.


    The bass player Stephen Travers was also seriously hurt and barely survived his injuries.
    Three members of the UDR were eventually convicted for their part in the attack. James Somerville, Thomas Crozier and James McDowell all received life sentences, and remained in jail until their release under the terms of the Good Friday Agreement.


    Commenting on the report, band member Des McAlea, who survived the attack, said: "It's been a long time but we've got justice at last."
    He described the HET findings as "quite shocking" and "mind-blowing".
    "The fact that there was collusion in this is such a tragedy for all of us concerned," he said.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-16179921

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/da...00/2534941.stm

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    Some chance of anything being looked into closely back then, these are the same people, like actual people, who bombed Dublin and Monaghan.

    Just wondering why the reference to Thatcher in the report, she wasn't PM for another 4 years? Was she aware of this from opposition?

    I did love the way Radio Ulster was reporting that there was suspected collusion given that the 2 dead bombers and 3 of the convicted men were in the DR. Exactly what would confirm that?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenanne_gang
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5intheface View Post
    Some chance of anything being looked into closely back then, these are the same people, like actual people, who bombed Dublin and Monaghan.

    Just wondering why the reference to Thatcher in the report, she wasn't PM for another 4 years? Was she aware of this from opposition?

    I did love the way Radio Ulster was reporting that there was suspected collusion given that the 2 dead bombers and 3 of the convicted men were in the DR. Exactly what would confirm that?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenanne_gang
    I heard a reference this evening to her being briefed on this as leader of the opposition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaddyJoe McGillycuddy View Post
    I heard a reference this evening to her being briefed on this as leader of the opposition.
    Hmm. Odd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5intheface View Post
    Some chance of anything being looked into closely back then, these are the same people, like actual people, who bombed Dublin and Monaghan.

    Just wondering why the reference to Thatcher in the report, she wasn't PM for another 4 years? Was she aware of this from opposition?

    I did love the way Radio Ulster was reporting that there was suspected collusion given that the 2 dead bombers and 3 of the convicted men were in the DR. Exactly what would confirm that?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenanne_gang
    Is that written up somewhere ? I'd like to read about it.

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    Sounds very similar to Kingsmill.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingsmill_massacre

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    Is that written up somewhere ? I'd like to read about it.
    Honestly don't know if there was a definitive book written on it but the wiki link above covers quite a bit about the individuals and what they were implicated in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5intheface View Post
    Honestly don't know if there was a definitive book written on it but the wiki link above covers quite a bit about the individuals and what they were implicated in.
    Thanks. It's pretty comprehensive. It seems to think that Kingsmill sounds like retaliation, although it happened the following day and was led by someone with an English accent.

    It is not credible that this was a "rogue" group. Given the numbers of people involved and the fact that it was led by the "RUC Special Branch".
    The Glenanne gang was a name given, since 2003, to a loose alliance of Northern Irish loyalist extremists who carried out sectarian killings and bomb attacks in the 1970s against the Irish Catholic and Irish nationalist community.[1] Most of its attacks took place in the area of County Armagh and mid Ulster referred to as the "murder triangle" by journalist Joe Tiernan.[2] It also launched attacks elsewhere in Northern Ireland and in the Republic of Ireland.[3] The gang included soldiers of the British Army, its Ulster Defence Regiment (UDR), the Royal Ulster Constabulary (RUC), the Mid-Ulster Brigade of the illegal paramilitary Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF) and some Ulster Defence Association (UDA) members.[4][5] It was allegedly commanded by British Military Intelligence and/or RUC Special Branch.[5][6]

    The Pat Finucane Centre has attributed 87 killings to the Glenanne gang,[7][8] including the Dublin and Monaghan bombings, the Miami Showband killings, and the Reavey and O'Dowd killings.[5] A number of these attacks has been affirmed by Glenanne gang member and RUC Special Patrol Group (SPG) officer John Weir in his sworn (3 February 1999) affidavit published in the 2003 Barron Report. This was the findings of an official investigation into the 1974 Dublin and Monaghan bombings commissioned by Irish Supreme Court Justice Henry Barron.[9] The RUC Special Patrol Group was a specialised police unit tasked with counter-terrorism in Northern Ireland.

    The name "Glenanne gang" is derived from the farm in Glenanne (near Markethill, County Armagh) that was used as the gang's arms dump and bomb-making site.[10]

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    Thanks. It's pretty comprehensive. It seems to think that Kingsmill sounds like retaliation, although it happened the following day and was led by someone with an English accent.

    It is not credible that this was a "rogue" group. Given the numbers of people involved and the fact that it was led by the "RUC Special Branch".
    Generally accepted that Kingsmill was carried out by the Provos but very possibly without full sanction although it's unlikely it was just a maverick or two.

    The English accent thing is anyone's guess, some suggest it was Nairiac to which I would say, stranger things have turned out to be true. Nairac has been accused, by both Loyalists and a Republican informer, of having set up one of the Glenanne gang's leading lights, Robert McConnell who was shot dead by the SAIRA in 1976.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5intheface View Post
    Generally accepted that Kingsmill was carried out by the Provos but very possibly without full sanction although it's unlikely it was just a maverick or two.

    The English accent thing is anyone's guess, some suggest it was Nairiac to which I would say, stranger things have turned out to be true. Nairac has been accused, by both Loyalists and a Republican informer, of having set up one of the Glenanne gang's leading lights, Robert McConnell who was shot dead by the SAIRA in 1976.
    Maybe, but they never seem to have confirmed it.

    On 5 January 1976, a Ford Transit minibus was carrying sixteen textile workers home from work in Glenanne to Bessbrook. Five were Catholics and eleven were Protestants. Four of the Catholics got out at Whitecross, while the remainder continued on the road to Bessbrook.[19] As the bus cleared the rise of a hill, it was stopped by a man standing on the road and flashing a torch. As it stopped, eleven masked gunmen emerged from the hedges and a man "with a pronounced English accent" began talking.[20] At first, the workers assumed that they were being stopped and searched by a British Army or RUC checkpoint, and when ordered to line up beside the bus, they obeyed. At this point the lead gunman ordered the only Catholic, Richard Hughes, to step forward. Hughes' workmates—thinking that the armed men were loyalists who had come to kill him—tried to stop him from identifying himself.[20] However, when Hughes stepped forward the gunman told him to "Get down the road and don't look back".[21]

    The remaining eleven men were shot with AR-18 and L1A1 SLR rifles, a 9mm pistol, and an M1 carbine. A total of 136 rounds were fired in less than a minute. Ten of them were killed outright and one, Alan Black, survived despite having eighteen gunshot wounds.
    Perhaps someone was double jobbing, but it sounds like the same group.

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    We have a thread started by Christy Walsh on Kingsmill and a possible Nairac question -

    http://www.politicalworld.org/showthread.php?t=3587

    Guardian Report on the HET report on the Miami Showband killings.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/de...?newsfeed=true

    Reports today have said that "parts or the HET report were released by the families."

    If anyone has a link to them, it would be appreciated if they would post it here.
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    I was given to understand tonight that the Pat Finucane Centre was to publish the report today - whether in whole or in part I have not ascertained. The families have received the full report and It is the families who decide what to publish, and my understanding from main news sources today is that they have decided to publish the conclusions.


    http://www.patfinucanecentre.org/cas...0statement.pdf

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    Mrs Thatcher called on Downing Street as Leader of the Opposition and was briefed. Please see the confidential report of that meeting here from Sep 11 1975

    Th e Prime Minister was Harold Wilson. Mrs Thatcher was accompanied by Airey Neave

    http://www.patfinucanecentre.org/cas...ThatcherNI.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5intheface View Post
    Generally accepted that Kingsmill was carried out by the Provos but very possibly without full sanction although it's unlikely it was just a maverick or two.

    The English accent thing is anyone's guess, some suggest it was Nairiac to which I would say, stranger things have turned out to be true. Nairac has been accused, by both Loyalists and a Republican informer, of having set up one of the Glenanne gang's leading lights, Robert McConnell who was shot dead by the SAIRA in 1976.
    The English accent thing is very misleading. I interviewed a couple of English blokes who were in the RUC reserve...at least that was the basis of the interview. Both had accents that could have been classified as " upper class " by someone not particularily used to upperclass English accents. In the UDR there were "posh" accented Anglos to further confuse things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lapsedmethodist View Post
    The English accent thing is very misleading. I interviewed a couple of English blokes who were in the RUC reserve...at least that was the basis of the interview. Both had accents that could have been classified as " upper class " by someone not particularily used to upperclass English accents. In the UDR there were "posh" accented Anglos to further confuse things.
    How many of the Provos had that accent ?

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