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    Quote Originally Posted by Lapsedmethodist View Post
    That's true. But not, however , in the case of the aforementioned Greek piece of ****


    http://www.jta.org/news/article/2009...christ-killers.
    The Greek right/LAOS are of course as violently anti-leftist as they are antisemitic.

    It's quite ludicrous to suggest that people on the left would support them.

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    If it were not for their membership of the European Union, the Greeks would have reverted to a military junta by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holly View Post
    If it were not for their membership of the European Union, the Greeks would have reverted to a military junta by now.
    Why do you think that ? It is the appalling price that Greece is paying for eurozone membership that has resulted in LAOS getting into Government.

    http://yanisvaroufakis.eu/2011/11/18...at-depression/

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    Why do you think that ? ...
    It is their track record.
    Rule by the Greek military started in the morning of 21 April 1967, with a coup d'état led by a group of colonels, and only ended as recently as July 1974.
    They would be out on their ear if they tried it again.

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    The Albanians and Macedonians are in for a hard time this time. These lot believe in deporting anyone who is non EU and not recognising anything with the name Macedonia in it

    http://www.laos.gr/PROGRAM_LAOS.pdf (In Greek - thanks to Wikipedia)
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    Possibly one of the longest running battles in European history that .. Northern Ireland is a babby by comparison.

    Goes back at least 2,500 years I'd say between Greek city states and Macedonia. The Greeks better hope Macedonia doesn't have another Alexander the Great hidden away somewhere.
    Think National. Act Local. Oh- and superstition is just the dark matter of human history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Con O'Sullivan View Post
    Possibly one of the longest running battles in European history that .. Northern Ireland is a babby by comparison.

    Goes back at least 2,500 years I'd say between Greek city states and Macedonia. The Greeks better hope Macedonia doesn't have another Alexander the Great hidden away somewhere.
    The right wingers are probably marching in the vain hope of finding him and bashing him on a street corner somewhere...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Con O'Sullivan View Post
    Possibly one of the longest running battles in European history that .. Northern Ireland is a babby by comparison.

    Goes back at least 2,500 years I'd say between Greek city states and Macedonia. The Greeks better hope Macedonia doesn't have another Alexander the Great hidden away somewhere.
    It's true. The Greeks really dislike most of the countries that border them and see themselves as being somewhat superior to them. I went out with a Greek girl for a few years and lived in Greece for a while. A bit of a mad place, but I liked the people in general - hospitality is taken very seriously there - but they have a strong seam of xenophobia running through them, not all Greeks, but it is a feature of Greek culture.

    One of the worst insults is to be called a Turk, which only barely beats being called a Bulgarian - the former implying barbarism, the latter stupidity. Western Europeans are still referred to as 'Franks'.

    The left in Greece are very worried about the army.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holly View Post
    It is their track record.
    Rule by the Greek military started in the morning of 21 April 1967, with a coup d'état led by a group of colonels, and only ended as recently as July 1974.
    They would be out on their ear if they tried it again.
    It was CIA sponsored. If it hadn't been for intensive western intervention post WW2, Greece and Italy and quite possibly France would have very likely become Communist states aligned with the USSR or Yugoslavia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    It was CIA sponsored. If it hadn't been for intensive western intervention post WW2, Greece and Italy and quite possibly France would have very likely become Communist states aligned with the USSR or Yugoslavia.
    You're mistaken if you thing all the colonels were Americans, C.F.

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    Philip Boucher-Hayes has started blogging and has a post on this

    http://philipboucher-hayes.com/2011/11/15/70/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holly View Post
    You're mistaken if you thing all the colonels were Americans, C.F.
    You're mistaken in thinking I said any such thing. I said it was a CIA sponsored coup. Are you under any doubt about that ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Flower View Post
    You're mistaken in thinking I said any such thing. I said it was a CIA sponsored coup. Are you under any doubt about that ?
    I have no doubt that the military junta was Greek through and through. I would not allow myself to become an apologist for the right-wing Greeks by pretending the years of rule by the colonels was a Washington operation run from the Pentagon.

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    Very sad news from Patras, Chrysi Avgi in action. The building in question is a disused factory, now used as a shelter by immigrants.

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    Tensions are running high in the area after a 30 year old local man was found behind the factory with 6 stab wounds. The immigrants (all illegally in the country) exposed themselves to the wrat of the authorities by calling both police and ambulance, but the young man died before they managed to get him to hospital

    The local Chrysi Avgi bully boys got wind of this, automatically assumed the immigrant (all Afghani) had something to do with the stabbing, and attacked the factory. Fair play to the police who stood between them and forced them back. 2 police officers were seriously hurt in the clashes.

    Then the local Chrysi Avgi "representative" went on local TV to "justify" the action taken, and was subsequently attacked by about 30 locals who put him in hospital.

    Police have brought in more riot police to protect the factory and the immigrants in it. They will need to, the latest news is that the attackers came back driving bulldozers at the police and the factory.
    Last edited by Ephilant; 07-06-2012 at 10:29 AM.

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    None of this is being reported in the main stream media over here. The media seem to be oblivious to the fact that the immigrants are being made a scapegoat by these absolute scumbags. Eliphant have you thought about contacting news stations here like the BBC or RTE here or other such stations? You have your finger on the pulse of all European affairs. Its scary to think that these scumbags came back with bulldozers and drove them at police and the factory. Just proves what fascist scum they are...
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