Ian Bailey extradition case adjourned to consider 'new material'

[Kev Bar]

(another) diversionary tactic by Bailey. He has form on doing it.

In 1997 in West Cork there wasn't much in the way of wireless/mobile, still isn't in many places. If kit was put on a "mast" probably a pole, in '97 why didn't he report it then?? Who are/were the certain people?

Part of his plan to divert attention from the real issue, who killed her??

The DPP and the guards made a balls of the case, Bailey, having studied law is now making them pay.

The question still remains, who is funding all this stuff, Buttimer. his lawyer has about three things on the go at the same time.

Could you explain your initial allegation?

[barrym]

Could you explain your initial allegation?

I've been contacted by she who must be obeyed about it.....

I see that it was modified in the OP but not in the quotes.

Publicity of possible evidence was the result of his suing the media..... draw your own conclusions.

B

[PaddyJoe]

The Indo today adds more details:

IAN Bailey has claimed that a former member of an Garda Siochana told him that two other officers had fixed a recording device to a mast near his home to carry out phone-tapping without the necessary legal authority.

Speaking at his home in Toormore, in west Cork , Bailey said that he had received information very recently, that "as far back as early 1997" he and his partner Jules Thomas, "were subjected to unauthorised, illegal phone tapping"

http://www.independent.ie/national-n...s-3277181.html

[Kev Bar]

I've been contacted by she who must be obeyed about it.....

I see that it was modified in the OP but not in the quotes.

Publicity of possible evidence was the result of his suing the media..... draw your own conclusions.

B

I dunno.

If someone was trying to stitch me up for I crime I say I didn't do, I think I wld make Bailey seem slacker like with the scale of my response.

[Captain Con O'Sullivan]

Lucky they didn't nail a bean Garda with big ears to the slates on the roof. 'Don't worry Siobhan there's a childcap on the flask of soup and a grand big dollop of mushtard on the hang sangwiches'.

'But Sergeant-'

'Just lie there and think of Ireland, Siobhan. We'll be back with the pliers n the morning after he's cleared off to work'.

[PaddyJoe]

Thanks to DCon there on the Today's Papers thread I see the Mail has an exclusive saying that the 'elite Garda cold case unit' has 'launched a high-powered attempt to catch Sophie Toscan du Plantier's murderer.
Det Super Christy Mangan is meeting members of the Du Plantier family to 'outline his plans'
It could hardly be that government people are worried about another case of those inconvenient foreigners kicking up a fuss about the standards of Irish investigations, could it?

[PaddyJoe]

Update by John Mooney in the ST today. Former DPP, James Hamilton, who retired in 2011, has been interviewed by Gsoc investigators in relation to an internal report written by his officials in 2001. The report claimed that Gardai acted illegally during the Toscan du Plantier investigation and only came to light when the High Court ruled in 2011 that Ian Bailey should be extradited to France.
An investigation by the Garda 'cold case' unit into the murder is continuing.

[Mick Tully]

Update by John Mooney in the ST today. Former DPP, James Hamilton, who retired in 2011, has been interviewed by Gsoc investigators in relation to an internal report written by his officials in 2001. The report claimed that Gardai acted illegally during the Toscan du Plantier investigation and only came to light when the High Court ruled in 2011 that Ian Bailey should be extradited to France.
An investigation by the Garda 'cold case' unit into the murder is continuing.

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't this the third investigation to be carried out, and the plods that fu€ked the first investigation are still on the force giving sworn evidence in other cases.

[PaddyJoe]

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't this the third investigation to be carried out, and the plods that fu€ked the first investigation are still on the force giving sworn evidence in other cases.

Yes, this will be the third investigation as far as I know. I'm afraid that I don't have a lot of faith in the Garda 'Cold Case' unit. Their most recent case was a reexamination of the circumstances surrounding the murder of Fr.Niall Molloy after a lot of new evidence came to light through a newspaper investigation last year.
It seems the upshot was that there was nothing untoward about the original murder investigation. Case quietly buried again.

[musashi]

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't this the third investigation to be carried out, and the plods that fu€ked the first investigation are still on the force giving sworn evidence in other cases.

Bailey should get his pound of flesh and that right soon; the police will close ranks like they always do.

[PaddyJoe]

Update from the IT today:

Lawyers for Ian Bailey want court orders requiring the Garda and State to hand over documents which they say support claims of malice against Mr Bailey in the Garda investigation into the murder in west Cork in 1996 of French film-maker Sophie Toscan du Plantier.

Mr Bailey’s solicitor Frank Buttimer said materials disclosed by the State for Mr Bailey’s successful appeal against extradition suggested at least one senior garda may have tried to put pressure on the DPP to prosecute Mr Bailey.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...330869593.html

[PaddyJoe]

Ian Bailey was on Liveline today(Thursday) talking about property tax for some obscure reason.
Didn't hear it.

[barrym]

Ian Bailey was on Liveline today(Thursday) talking about property tax for some obscure reason.
Didn't hear it.

As I said over on the LPT thread, he said that people were stopping him in the street to ask his "advice" about it. The poor disillusioned morons. He has become an 'expert' on all things legal since he got his law degree....jaysus.

I still wonder who has paid/is paying his legal fees and his University fees, he was a freelance journalist and did a bit of gardening work.....

[disability student]

As I said over on the LPT thread, he said that people were stopping him in the street to ask his "advice" about it. The poor disillusioned morons. He has become an 'expert' on all things legal since he got his law degree....jaysus.

I still wonder who has paid/is paying his legal fees and his University fees, he was a freelance journalist and did a bit of gardening work.....

His legal fees were paid for by means of legal aid as his solicitor Buttimer was the recipient of that aid.

Well some mature student/s might get some free fees as it may amount of half of it or a quarter. Although not all mature students get it. I used to see him around in university as he was a big lumbering giant, who had kept to himself at that time.

[C. Flower]

As I said over on the LPT thread, he said that people were stopping him in the street to ask his "advice" about it. The poor disillusioned morons. He has become an 'expert' on all things legal since he got his law degree....jaysus.

I still wonder who has paid/is paying his legal fees and his University fees, he was a freelance journalist and did a bit of gardening work.....

I'm interested that you have such a negative view of this man.
All I know about him is that he seems to have experienced a dreadful injustice at the hands of the Gardaí and the State. He also seems to have been violent to his girlfriend and possibly to have been said some foolish things.

The Gardai appear to have played fast and loose in a similar way to the Donegal carry on.

Is there anything I am missing about him ?