Massareene Shootings Trial Begins

[toxic avenger]

So guess who has been arrested in connection with yesterday's killing.................

There is something extremely odd going on between the PSNI and Duffy - is he being fitted up/harassed? Or is there something else to it?

[C. Flower]

So guess who has been arrested in connection with yesterday's killing.................

There is something extremely odd going on between the PSNI and Duffy - is he being fitted up/harassed? Or is there something else to it?

I have heard in the past what I took to be suggestions that because Duffy has won appeals and cases that he was being protected or promoted by the British state. The same sort of suggestions have been made about Adams and McGuinness - "why weren't they killed/jailed"?

Damned if he is or isn't.

He has certainly undergone a great deal of disruption and discomfort, including long periods on remand.

Other possible explanations - the police might believe that he committed crimes in the past that they failed to convict him for, and are attempting pay back, or simple political harassment of a dissident Republican because of his views and activities.

[toxic avenger]

I have heard in the past what I took to be suggestions that because Duffy has won appeals and cases that he was being protected or promoted by the British state. The same sort of suggestions have been made about Adams and McGuinness - "why weren't they killed/jailed"?

Damned if he is or isn't.

He has certainly undergone a great deal of disruption and discomfort, including long periods on remand.

Other possible explanations - the police might believe that he committed crimes in the past that they failed to convict him for, and are attempting pay back, or simple political harassment of a dissident Republican because of his views and activities.

I don't know what - or who - to believe when it comes to this stuff. I can easily beieve that he has been fitted up and subjected to deliberate harassment from the PSNI. Unfortunately I can also easily believe that the dissidents are riddled like woodworm with spies, plants, and informers. Same old story in Irish history. I just don't trust any of them.

[C. Flower]

I don't know what - or who - to believe when it comes to this stuff. I can easily beieve that he has been fitted up and subjected to deliberate harassment from the PSNI. Unfortunately I can also easily believe that the dissidents are riddled like woodworm with spies, plants, and informers. Same old story in Irish history. I just don't trust any of them.

Yes, even to the extent that the British would not have been averse to killing their own underground people, if it helped their overall agenda.

I would judge people by their politics as not being perfect but one of the more reliable tests. It is surprisingly hard to fake a political point of view - Donaldson for example was said to avoid political discussion.

Organisations that have no political programme or published viewpoint, but who draw people into activity, certainly give the appearance of being fronts or countergangs.

[Saoirse go Deo]

Not very surprising, 44 year old from Lurgan, I knew it was him. Round up the usual suspects.

There's no way in hell that this was him, he would be under intensive surveillance.

He is being harassed, they say its because he was a witness of collusion at work in which a friend was killed, and all this is to utterly discredit him. I hope this doesn't mean he will be on remand forever and a day - makes an even bigger mockery of an already failing justice system.

[5intheface]

What happens to British Intelligence if there is another killing whilst Duffy is inside?

Oh yes, McGlinchey, I forgot.

Unless of course the other arrested man is.............

[C. Flower]

What happens to British Intelligence if there is another killing whilst Duffy is inside?

Oh yes, McGlinchey, I forgot.

Unless of course the other arrested man is.............

Surely that could never happen ?...

[People Korps]

So guess who has been arrested in connection with yesterday's killing.................

There is something extremely odd going on between the PSNI and Duffy - is he being fitted up/harassed? Or is there something else to it?

At this stage it may be reasonably assumed that the PSNI are determined to keep Colin Duffy locked up on remand as often and for as long as possible. If I were his legal adviser I would be already be before the high court seeking a writ of habeas corpus, an injunction on the police from further interference without a just cause and also would be lodging civil proceedings and making a complaint with view to action at the European level.
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[5intheface]

At this stage it may be reasonably assumed that the PSNI are determined to keep Colin Duffy locked up on remand as often and for as long as possible. If I were his legal adviser I would be already be before the high court seeking a writ of habeas corpus, an injunction on the police from further interference without a just cause and also would be lodging civil proceedings and making a complaint with view to action at the European level.
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As I'm sure you know, these people have a way of dealing with Duffy's legal adviser as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosemary_Nelson

[People Korps]

As I'm sure you know, these people have a way of dealing with Duffy's legal adviser as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosemary_Nelson

I am aware of that but it is a moot point until his legal adviser is murdered then a robust flurry of writs, and submissions is the way forward at least they will be on record. A writ of habeas corpus while he is actually being questioned would be a powerful legal ,message to police and the CSO . I imagine Duffy is weary of the constant harassment. I not SF are whining about one of their own today, they might wake up and smell the coffee I predict that Adams will be charged re the Boston College tapes ....the mercs were fine for a while but there are people intent on knocking smiles of their faces too. And they may well succeed in getting Garry banged up they certainly want to, kind of ironic but SF might find they have a common cause with the dissidents sooner than they think

[Trow]

The BBC was'nt shy about sensationalizing things by broadcasting Colin's name upon arrest.
As pressure mounts over a pending appeal in relation to detentions based on ''closed evidence'' [secret files] and with prison protests including hungerstrikes someone died as a direct consequence.

I don't know for sure whether or not there's a bit of a ''Brit Black Op'' going on in the background here to nurse in police state draconian law but you can be sure the POA has won the argument for retention of their PPW's. [Personal Protection Weapon]

It's all timely and deadly extreme.

British intelligence were warning members of the Prison Service of potential imminent attack as far back as August. That Month saw a Hungerstrike and the anniversary of the ''August Agreement'' [not yet implemented]

David Ford will say that it was Republicans who broke that agreement by threatening prison officers. Why did'nt David Ford go public with that at the time? Why no outcry from the POA? Why the sudden absolute souring of the agreement?

Why indeed is so much about Maghaberry shrouded in secrecy and censorship? It could only be a matter of Politics.

[People Korps]

I think the misuse and abuse of police powers in regard to Colin Duffy deserves a thread of its own. The Guardian notes he has thrice been found not guilty of charges of murder. It would appear that the PSNI are intent on arresting him whenever they feel like it. that is harassment and the fact that they continually charge him with serious crimes which they can not prove indicates that the the PSNI are engaged in a malicious and possibly criminal conspiracy which is directed at denying Duffy his human rights.

[Trow]

Colin Duffy and the other man arrested in the 6 Counties have been released without charge. A man arrested in the 26 Counties is still being held.

[C. Flower]

Colin Duffy and the other man arrested in the 6 Counties have been released without charge. A man arrested in the 26 Counties is still being held.

Duffy is reported as planning to bring a case to the European Court of Justice about the duration a person can be held without charge by the UK Gov.

[C. Flower]

I am aware of that but it is a moot point until his legal adviser is murdered then a robust flurry of writs, and submissions is the way forward at least they will be on record. A writ of habeas corpus while he is actually being questioned would be a powerful legal ,message to police and the CSO . I imagine Duffy is weary of the constant harassment. I not SF are whining about one of their own today, they might wake up and smell the coffee I predict that Adams will be charged re the Boston College tapes ....the mercs were fine for a while but there are people intent on knocking smiles of their faces too. And they may well succeed in getting Garry banged up they certainly want to, kind of ironic but SF might find they have a common cause with the dissidents sooner than they think

I agree with you that they are circling around SF leaders. The extent to which this will be acted on, or is just intended to wear people down to compliance and quietude, I don't know.