EU Proposes to Force the Privatisation of All Fisheries from 2013

[C. Flower]

The first stage of the big knock down sale of Europe.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/0714/1224300713710.html


THE EU’s plan for the mandatory privatisation of fish quotas across Europe has been criticised by Minister for the Marine Simon Coveney, who warned that this could allow international companies to take over family-owned fishing fleets.

The proposal is one of a number published yesterday by the EU maritime and fisheries commissioner Maria Damanaki as a blueprint for reform of the controversial Common Fisheries Policy from 2013.

Mandatory privatisation would see national fish quotas allocated in Brussels but then sold off to the highest bidder. It could lead to a situation where a country might lose all control of the fish stocks within its own waters.

The Federation of Irish Fishermen warns that quota privatisation would “benefit those with the most capital”. The federation, representing three industry groupings, is disappointed at the European Commission’s failure to include proposals to protect the biologically sensitive area off the west coast known as the “Irish Box”.

Mr Coveney welcomed the opportunity to revise the fisheries policy, favouring many of the proposals outlined by Ms Maria Damanaki. However, he was “very disappointed” that Ms Damanaki had decided to “impose this scheme of mandatory privatisation of quotas on member states”.

The measure, which would provide for transferable quotas from no later than December 31st, 2013, stipulates that a member state must give a minimum of 15 years’ advance notice if it wished to recall quotas for reallocation.

“I have no doubt that this would lead to concentration of fishing into the hands of large fishing international companies without links to the coastal communities and these very large fishing vessels, in some cases factory ships, would no longer land into Ireland resulting in loss of jobs, closure of fish-processing factories and economic activity in our coastal communities,” Mr Coveney said.

[jpc]

The EU has never had any interest in conserving fish stocks in any real sense.
The lunatic policy of forcing the destruction of non quota fish or by catch is moronic beyond belief.
Europe is not there to serve the people.

[Captain Con O'Sullivan]

I'm increasingly concerned that the EU is being run by organised crime working through private wealth funds.

Sounds mad but there are indications, circumstantial, that this may be happening as a natural offshoot of massive money laundering of organised crime syndicates' money into the European banking system.

I suspect we are looking in some ways at new corporations linking high finance and serious organised crime across the laundering pipeline.

Sounds dramatic but it is actually possible.

[C. Flower]

I'm increasingly concerned that the EU is being run by organised crime working through private wealth funds.

Sounds mad but there are indications, circumstantial, that this may be happening as a natural offshoot of massive money laundering of organised crime syndicates' money into the European banking system.

I suspect we are looking in some ways at new corporations linking high finance and serious organised crime across the laundering pipeline.

Sounds dramatic but it is actually possible.

If you consider that Murdoch was near as dammit running the UK, perhaps anything is possible :)

[Captain Con O'Sullivan]

Interestng Con.

Do you think these organised crime groups originate in states from within the EU or from without (nearby or otherwise) ?

I'm convinced it is a logical expansion of what has happened since the breakup of the soviet union.

The main organisations which worked throughout the soviet, perestroika and aftermath of the default era were the organisedc crime sydicates. Boosted of course by ex-KGB officers. Putin isn't building his vast estates off a President's official salary and we know that there was a deal between him and the Oligarchs that they would be left alone to carry on their business interests as long as they stayed out of politics.

So there are huge amounts of money in roubles which are unofficial in Russia and places like Rumania, Bulgaria and the other former soviet states mostly made out of corruption, drugs and prostitution. Best way to preserve it is to move it out of those countries.

Best way to clean the money is to have nominee accounts in haven countries between the east and the west. That would be Austria, Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg and so on. First it gets channeled out via Croatia and Albania through the banking systems there and into the nominee accounts. Then the money is washed behind derivative trades or simply goes on a wander through the west's havens, comes back in the form of clean money after the conversion through derivates and bonds.

It was the same with Latin American cocaine money in the 80's. Large sums of cash collected by Miami 'offshore' banks, run out through Bermuda and Caymans and then back into the US via merchant banks and invested into legit enterprises. To do this all you need to do is have 'front' documentation which the bankers don't look too closely at. This is where organised crime and investment banking meet.

It wouldn't surprise me if private wealth funds attached to investment banks are nothing more than laundries for dirty money in many cases.

We know that there were significant sums of eastern european cash in the accounts of subsidiaries of western banks in the mid 2000s.

We caught a glimpse of that I believe when the Swiss bank which bought Anglo Irish Austria AG went crowing in Switzerland via a press release from the lawyers saying that the purchase increased their market share of eastern european markets. There was 600million euros worth of deposits in that bank and no liabilities. Fitzpatrick and co actually paid the Swiss bank a bonus to take it off their hands quick when the rest of Anglo was screaming for liquidity.

Why would a subsidiary of an Irish bank in Austria be holding 600million euros of 'eastern european' money? And why get rid of it so fast and pay a bonus to the buyer to take it?

I doubt that the Anglo management were worried about Irish regulators or Gardai. I suspect they might have been more worried that the subsidiary would bring attention to the deposit holders who would not have appreciated the attention.

[C. Flower]

The EU has never had any interest in conserving fish stocks in any real sense.
The lunatic policy of forcing the destruction of non quota fish or by catch is moronic beyond belief.
Europe is not there to serve the people.

This has blown up again. Simon Coveney at the moment seems to have a reasonable grip on agriculture and fisheries policy.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/0924/1224304677829.html

Maria Damanaki has conceded that Ireland has suffered under the common fisheries policy.


However, she denied that aspects of the new policy would make Ireland’s situation worse, due to a planned introduction of transferable quota concessions, and has criticised “scaremongering” on the issue.

She could not comment on whether her remarks were directed at Minister for the Marine Simon Coveney, who is vehemently opposed to the plan, as are a number of stakeholder groups. They fear it will result in big international conglomerates buying up Irish fishing rights.

Denmark and countries like the US, New Zealand and Australia had shown that this system could work, where governments awarded rights to fish for a period of time, but with ownership retained by the state.

“We can avoid referring the rights to banks, to big companies,” she said, and the system also provided a means to compensate people who wished to quit fishing.

The EU had paid over €906 million between 2000 and 2006 to decommission vessels, but the taxpayer could no longer fund this, she said.

“A lot of member states are pushing not only for transferability of concessions inside the countries, but they want an EU transferable system,” she said.

“This [EU-wide system] is out of the question. And I’ve made it absolutely clear we are not discussing this, as this would disturb relative stability – and am not going to open up a Pandora’s box.” However, she and her officials were “studying” Ireland’s case for ensuring permanent treaty protection for the so-called “Hague Preferences”, which guarantee a certain amount of quota in key stocks to Ireland and Britain, as states with substantial coastlines.

Other member states such as Spain have been lobbying for years to have these concessions dropped.

[jpc]

This has blown up again. Simon Coveney at the moment seems to have a reasonable grip on agriculture and fisheries policy.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/0924/1224304677829.html

Maria Damanaki has conceded that Ireland has suffered under the common fisheries policy.
I wonder is it a bit late now to be making such admissions given "we are where we are" as some buffoon used to say one time.
Coveney does seem to get the obscenity of the fisheries policy.

[jpc]

I'm increasingly concerned that the EU is being run by organised crime working through private wealth funds.

Sounds mad but there are indications, circumstantial, that this may be happening as a natural offshoot of massive money laundering of organised crime syndicates' money into the European banking system.

I suspect we are looking in some ways at new corporations linking high finance and serious organised crime across the laundering pipeline.

Sounds dramatic but it is actually possible.

As discussed on another thread once you start corrupting institutions from within no one knows until its too late.
And that Anglo subsidiary that no one in officialdom seems to be pursuing nothing Strange that, but given our lads are better at arse scratching!
And stranger that no EU regulatory groups aren't asking questions.

[sinsin]

I'm increasingly concerned that the EU is being run by organised crime working through private wealth funds.

Sounds mad but there are indications, circumstantial, that this may be happening as a natural offshoot of massive money laundering of organised crime syndicates' money into the European banking system.

I suspect we are looking in some ways at new corporations linking high finance and serious organised crime across the laundering pipeline.

Sounds dramatic but it is actually possible.

You are spot on.:)
Just one more step.
Who are the final beneficiaries?
Who is the spider in the web?