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Xray
05-04-2010, 04:33 PM
Fianna Fáil TD Ned O'Keeffe declared that the regulator was not giving the banks enough space to get their houses in order.


If given time, Ned said, "they won't be depending on the state and Mr Elderfield to tell us what to do. We don't want foreigners in here. Michael Collins, Liam Lynch, Pádraig Pearse and James Connolly wouldn't have those foreigners running our business."

http://www.tribune.ie/news/home-news/article/2010/apr/04/how-the-fallen-mighty-is-cast-as-the-victim/


We would not like an Irish person being treated like this in England. I think it is dreadful and a mark of desperation. FF have never been a party of bigotry.

BrendanGalway
05-04-2010, 04:55 PM
Ned said, "they won't be depending on the state and Mr Elderfield to tell us what to do. We don't want foreigners in here. Michael Collins, Liam Lynch, Pádraig Pearse and James Connolly wouldn't have those foreigners running our business."


Those Men would never have had Ned O Keefe and his ilk running our business either. How dare O Keefe invoke their names. They gave their lives in an attempt to give this country its freedoms. Freedom that is now under threat from the IMF and others as a direct result of Fianna Fails Incompetence and Corruption.

To answer your Question X-Ray, Yes quite Bigoted. His implication is that a Foreigner needs to keep his nose out of Irish affairs. Im not sure what his game is, its a sign of desperation when you have to bring out the lowest common denominator. Is he implying that things are going slow because Johnny Foreigner is putting himself about where he is not wanted?

Dagger John
05-04-2010, 04:56 PM
Would the men of 1916 accept the English mans help? - It is a riddle in the sand and not worth debating as they are not here to tell us

Xray
05-04-2010, 05:04 PM
Would the men of 1916 accept the English mans help? - It is a riddle in the sand and not worth debating as they are not here to tell us

Good point childers, dev and I think connolly were not Irish born anyway. Aside from that the Irish people are entitled to hire anyone for any job they want. We have Irish people in senior positions in the UK, what if the Tories adopted a similar opinion?
I welcome this man to his post, he is far better so far than Irish people in similar positions.

moss
05-04-2010, 05:16 PM
Would the men of 1916 accept the English mans help? - It is a riddle in the sand and not worth debating as they are not here to tell us

Is your problem just that the man is English ?
The men of 1916 were prepared to accept guns from Germany.

Edit. As to the OP, yes I see it as resorting to the lowest common denominator and is a disgusting comment.

C. Flower
05-04-2010, 05:26 PM
The article raises a lot of questions in my mind. Mr. Quinn seems to have the abiity to get a lot of cooperation and support from a large number of politicians of more than one colour and both sides of the border.
Doesn't he also sponsor the Late Late Show.

Quinn seems to be been deeply tied into Anglo Irish, was assisted and facilitated beyond the call of duty by the banks, the former Regulator and politicians and still is. I have felt for a while that more attention should be given to this poor, hard done by man.

Much, much more attention.

O'Keeffe's disgraceful comment seems to be part of a wider "support Quinn at all costs" approach.

Fraxinus
05-04-2010, 05:33 PM
Feigned nationalism again, FF would rather have the financiers in London, New York and the EU telling us what to do.

Xray
05-04-2010, 05:41 PM
Feigned nationalism again, FF would rather have the financiers in London, New York and the EU telling us what to do.

This is not even feigned FF nationalism of old, FF was never really one for bigotry. Even in the deepest days of Catholic Church control leading FFers were defending people of minority faiths and indeed gave some key positions in the party to them. I have never heard anyone calling for "foreigners" to be treated badly in this country in my life time by a "main stream" politician. It is very hard to tell a taxi driver he cannot object to foreigners on the rank when leading lights in "moderate" political parties come out with this.

There is a massive difference between patriotic Nationalism and Republicanism and being zenophobic. A massive difference nearly every political shade of opinion on this island does not need explaining to it.

I had to read this article several times, I was absolutely shocked at its contents to be honest.

What has been going on in this country the last few years?

C. Flower
05-04-2010, 05:46 PM
This is not even feigned FF nationalism of old, FF was never really one for bigotry. Even in the deepest days of Catholic Church control leading FFers were defending people of minority faiths and indeed gave some key positions in the party to them. I have never heard anyone calling for "foreigners" to be treated badly in this country in my life time by a "main stream" politician. It is very hard to tell a taxi driver he cannot object to foreigners on the rank when leading lights in "moderate" political parties come out with this.

There is a massive difference between patriotic Nationalism and Republicanism and being zenophobic. A massive difference nearly every political shade of opinion on this island does not need explaining to it.

I had to read this article several times, I was absolutely shocked at its contents to be honest.

What has been going on in this country the last few years?

Isn't this the man who said he wouldn't look out for the issues of a child in a north Cork village because "there were no votes in it" ?

it strikes me as pure cynical populism. The big story in the article is the number of politicians who appear to be working for Quinn.

truth.ie
05-04-2010, 05:49 PM
This is the same Fianna Fail who appointed Gillian Bowler (an Englishwoman) as head of Irish Tourism. Despite the fact her previous experience in tourism involved leaving school at 16 and selling timeshares in Greece, and a role in Budget travel.
She was then put in charge of an Irish bank (Irish Life and Permanent) despite having zero experience in finance or banking.
She was also Chairperson of the Irish Museum of Modern Art, despite not even having a basic understanding or qualification in Art.
Later she became a member of the Independent Radio and Television Commision, despite having no media or communication studies.
Also Director of VHI. Again no previous experiance or qualifications.

Xray
05-04-2010, 05:51 PM
I think when he is attacked for being foreign, we need to read "not a crony capitalist".

truth.ie
05-04-2010, 05:52 PM
Isn't this the man who said he wouldn't look out for the issues of a child in a north Cork village because "there were no votes in it" ?

it strikes me as pure cynical populism. The big story in the article is the number of politicians who appear to be working for Quinn.
It's like that funny moment when Mrs Merton asked Debbie Mc Gee,
"So Debbie, what was it, that first attracted you to the millionaire Paul Daniels?"

Dagger John
05-04-2010, 09:33 PM
Is your problem just that the man is English ?
The men of 1916 were prepared to accept guns from Germany.

Edit. As to the OP, yes I see it as resorting to the lowest common denominator and is a disgusting comment.

:) ,,,,

C. Flower
05-04-2010, 10:13 PM
Xenophobia is a trend: tonight's news includes a group wanting a ban on non Indian women in Bollywood movies, and people being banned from living in some parts of Brussels if they don't speak Dutch.

Slim Buddha
05-04-2010, 10:22 PM
Whatever about it being bigotry, it is definitely stupidity.

C. Flower
05-04-2010, 10:30 PM
Whatever about it being bigotry, it is definitely stupidity.

Are you sure ? Ned is pretty good at identifying the side of his bread with the butter on it.

Dagger John
05-04-2010, 10:47 PM
Xenophobia is a trend: tonight's news includes a group wanting a ban on non Indian women in Bollywood movies, and people being banned from living in some parts of Brussels if they don't speak Dutch.

Can't see what is wrong with that

C. Flower
06-04-2010, 06:38 AM
Can't see what is wrong with that

If that's accepted, we may as well go back to Medieval times and stay in our own parishes unless permitted by the local Baron.

The world economy is globalised and to try to turn that back would mean a collapse in the levels of production and of population.

greengoose
06-04-2010, 08:46 AM
Patrick Henry Pearse was born at 27 Great Brunswick Street (now Pearse Street), Dublin. His father, James Pearse, was an English artisan/stonemason who moved to Ireland from Birmingham to take advantage of the boom in church building during the second half of the 19th century. He converted to Catholicism in 1870, probably for business reasons,[citation needed] and held moderate home rule views.

James Connolly (Irish: Séamas Ó Conghaile; 5 June 1868 – 12 May 1916) was an Irish and Scottish socialist leader. He was born in the Cowgate area of Edinburgh, Scotland, to Irish immigrant parents. He left school for working life at the age of 11, but became one of the leading Marxist theorists of his day. Though proud of his Irish background, he also took a role in Scottish and American politics

[Tom Clarke] He was born on the Isle of Wight, and his father, James Clarke, was a sergeant in the British Army. The family soon moved to Dungannon, County Tyrone, Ireland.

Captain Con O'Sullivan
06-04-2010, 11:53 AM
You wouldn't expect a Fianna Failer to actually know anything about the people who took part in the 1916 rising.

They've been bullshitting each other about being the 'republican' party for so long they probably think Mary Harney was in the GPO.

In the US, a republican politician dislikes gays until he gets caught in the men's room with a john. In Colombia they elect President after President on an anti-drugs banner only for them to be busted later with dirty money in their pockets.

Fianna Fail wrap themselves in a tricolour so no-one can see where their hands are. Usually in the national cookie jar.