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UR Right
07-05-2011, 06:21 PM
Listening to TUV's Jim McAllister on RTE today after a battering in the polls, making comments about Sinn Fein/IRA, bombings and bank robberies, I realised that this rhetoric has been recognised for what it is in the six counties, bigotted, sectarian, divisive smoke screens.

No other party in the six counties, where obviously, the majority of the pain from the Troubles was felt, uses this rhetoric anymore and understand that the electorate want to move on.

So why is is acceptable for the mainstream parties in the Republic and the media to continue with this rhetoric? It is disgraceful and hypocritical that while SF were a key component of bringing peace that RTE, FF and FG continue to attempt to beat SF with the same stick they have for years. For so long the rhetoric was "move on and forget about the brutal history" but now it is the mainstream that seek to score points from their version of "history (most of which as with the Northtern Bank robbery is pure hearsay).

It is an insult to us fror Enda Kenny, Pat Kenny or Michael Martin to assume that we are as thick as not to recognise that when they resort to this rubbish it is merely to keep SF down and ignore the real issues, including the ABSOLUTE need to default on the ECB.

Dr. FIVE
07-05-2011, 06:28 PM
You have to smile when Lenihan calls SF economic policy "loony" and is never pulled up.


Insiders/outsiders

truth.ie
07-05-2011, 06:33 PM
Listening to TUV's Jim McAllister on RTE today after a battering in the polls, making comments about Sinn Fein/IRA, bombings and bank robberies, I realised that this rhetoric has been recognised for what it is in the six counties, bigotted, sectarian, divisive smoke screens.

No other party in the six counties, where obviously, the majority of the pain from the Troubles was felt, uses this rhetoric anymore and understand that the electorate want to move on.

So why is is acceptable for the mainstream parties in the Republic and the media to continue with this rhetoric? It is disgraceful and hypocritical that while SF were a key component of bringing peace that RTE, FF and FG continue to attempt to beat SF with the same stick they have for years. For so long the rhetoric was "move on and forget about the brutal history" but now it is the mainstream that seek to score points from their version of "history (most of which as with the Northtern Bank robbery is pure hearsay).

It is an insult to us fror Enda Kenny, Pat Kenny or Michael Martin to assume that we are as thick as not to recognise that when they resort to this rubbish it is merely to keep SF down and ignore the real issues, including the ABSOLUTE need to default on the ECB.
Yet Sinn Fein use the same stick to now beat it's political opponents.

They're never off the Telly condemning eirigi, 32CSM, RSF etcc for bombings, bank robberies etc. Even more virulently than the TUV or RTE. And thats some doing.
Care to explain the difference?

Sidewinder
07-05-2011, 07:35 PM
Well it's pretty simple, FF/FG/Lab/RTE/IT/Indo are all collaborators in an illegal and oppressive regime, involved in a decades-long exploitation of the resources of the nation and suppression of the Irish people, in the service of external paymasters.

Accordingly, if you were a criminal knowingly engaged in a conspiracy, one of the standard tactics is to throw mud around at everyone else, hoping to distract attention away from your own crimes. It's worked for them for decades, why stop now?

If SF made it perfectly clear that they were now fully on board with the illegal southern statelet and fully intended to keep up the exploitation, oppression and service to external masters, then you can be sure the loony rhetoric would suddenly cease.

It's all about protecting the scam. Doesn't matter if the target of the rhetoric might be intending to implement a different scam. The participants in the current scam like things just they way they are, thank you very much, and will defend their mafioso turf against all comers.

truth.ie
07-05-2011, 07:51 PM
Fair point.
But maybe it's simpler than that.
Fianna Fail/RTE etc attack and throw mud at SF to stifle their support and defend their political base.
SF attack and throw mud at Eirigi, 32CSM etc to stifle their support and defend their base.
Some of the stuff Mc Guinness has come out with sounds straight from the Eoghan Harris Handybook. Just curious is the O.P, who I assume is SF, gets the irony of his post regarding rhetoric.

mutley
07-05-2011, 07:53 PM
I've yet to come across a shinner that understands Irony

Fraxinus
07-05-2011, 08:15 PM
Fair point.
But maybe it's simpler than that.
Fianna Fail/RTE etc attack and throw mud at SF to stifle their support and defend their political base.
SF attack and throw mud at Eirigi, 32CSM etc to stifle their support and defend their base.
Some of the stuff Mc Guinness has come out with sounds straight from the Eoghan Harris Handybook. Just curious is the O.P, who I assume is SF, gets the irony of his post regarding rhetoric.

FF are more than a party though...not trying to exagerate things but they've been so long in power in the 26C that they are pratically embedded in the state institutions (Think UUP before 69). To a lesser extent FG and Labour. Bunracht was written almost single handedly not by the people but the leader of FF.
They're not just defending their political base, they are defending a social and economic system that helps them in their constant drive for power and wealth.

truth.ie
07-05-2011, 08:18 PM
FF are more than a party though...not trying to exagerate things but they've been so long in power in the 26C that they are pratically embedded in the state institutions. To a lesser extent FG and Labour. Bunracht was written almost single handedly not by the people but the leader of FF.
They're not just defending their political base, they are defending a social and economic system that helps them in their constant drive for power and wealth.
I'd say grassroots FF in the 30 and 40s, who flocked behind Dev were well meaning and not at all like the Callelys and Fahy's of today. They saw Dev as the war veteran who could be trusted and who would lead them to a Republic. They say most family businesses go under during the 3rd generation.