Is there any real differences between FF and FG?

[croninthebarbarian]

Im worried that electing FG will just see a different set of arses getting fatter for the next four years...can anyone tell me any SUBSTANTIAL policy differences between the two of them, other than more Neo-Lib tripe?

I looked through the 'candidates' for local FG here in CLare and just found more uneducated, rank and file politicians, (following his fathers proud footsteps...blah blah blah) even the younger ones havint so much as a FETAC course behind them.

I just feel that ist not a matter of getting the current junta out, you have to fill the space with more than dead weight....

[C. Flower]

When the Cowen and Lenihan administration came in, we were told at length about their intelligence and academic accomplishments.

It makes me long for a few politicians with junior cert and some basic cop on.

[croninthebarbarian]

ah yes, but I didint vote for either of them and fail to see how people with a legal qualification are in any way 'qualified' to run a country or make decisions in the interest of anyone other than themselves.
I cannot endorse more well meaning fools though, I am bored with empty rhetoric and me feiners...

[C. Flower]

ah yes, but I didint vote for either of them and fail to see how people with a legal qualification are in any way 'qualified' to run a country or make decisions in the interest of anyone other than themselves.
I cannot endorse more well meaning fools though, I am bored with empty rhetoric and me feiners...

Bored would be putting it mildly.

Politicians rely heavily on top class advice from civil servants. From the state of the Department of Finance in 2008, something had gone badly wrong there.

It won't have got any better. Now most experienced civil servants have taken early retirement and there's a recruitment embargo, there are a lot of unhappy middle ranking people doing two peoples' jobs. Whoever forms the next Government will have fun.

[Victor Meldrew]

Bored would be putting it mildly.

Politicians rely heavily on top class advice from civil servants. From the state of the Department of Finance in 2008, something had gone badly wrong there.

It won't have got any better. Now most experienced civil servants have taken early retirement and there's a recruitment embargo, there are a lot of unhappy middle ranking people doing two peoples' jobs. Whoever forms the next Government will have fun.

If you were to strip away all the consultant's reports and just let middle & upper middle civil service run the show (ie advise the govt), we#d have a well run country. It took something very warped for Anglo and the other banks to happen. It took forced reckless bordering on sociopathy.

I just don't think this could happen again. The generations between 25 and 40 are just too scarred...

[Baron von Biffo]

Im worried that electing FG will just see a different set of arses getting fatter for the next four years...can anyone tell me any SUBSTANTIAL policy differences between the two of them, other than more Neo-Lib tripe?

I looked through the 'candidates' for local FG here in CLare and just found more uneducated, rank and file politicians, (following his fathers proud footsteps...blah blah blah) even the younger ones havint so much as a FETAC course behind them.

I just feel that ist not a matter of getting the current junta out, you have to fill the space with more than dead weight....

Your average FG grass root will shower more frequently than his FF counterpart. He will probably be a bit more honest and he will be heavily burdened by feelings of superiority balanced by a belief in noblesse oblige. Other than that it's Tweedledum & Tweedledee

[Dagger John]

FG will shaft the northern nationalists at every opportunity in order to ingratiate themselves with their English masters whereas FF will do so in order to stop their English masters shafting them

[C. Flower]

Fianna Gael and Fine Fail ?

Fine Gael has a plan - it includes selling off the few national resources we have left.

http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&ved=0CAcQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.finegael.org%2Fupload%2FNewPo litics.pdf&rct=j&q=Fine+Gael+New+politics&ei=MRq5S9WFO5f20gT-5KUq&usg=AFQjCNGvl0AB3NtamHh3jPSEKy6i8CQNlQ

Fianna Fail has the NDP and a few pages on the "Smart economy", that are constantly undermined by what the party actually does.

[Arnold Layne]

FF politicians will shaft the country to benefit themselves, FG politicians shaft themselves to the detriment of the country

[mutley]

FF politicians will shaft the country to benefit themselves, FG politicians shaft themselves to the detriment of the country

lol

[Slim Buddha]

Fine Gael is a right of centre Christian Democrat political party with a couple of leading figures who rise above the general mediocrity of Irish politics. It has an uninspiring but well meaning leader.

Fianna Fail is basically a criminal conspiracy.