View Full Version : Earthquakes and Volcanoes - I Feel the Earth Move Under My Feet
C. Flower
28-02-2010, 01:11 AM
A continuation of an old Machine Nation thread, in which reports of earthquakes were recorded.
I just came upon this excellent site which maps earthquakes globally in the last 7 days.
It shows a string of earthquakes from north america to Indonesia and also in the Caribbiean and gives a real impression of how the earth's crust is shifting.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/
Now here's a question - does sea temperature change affect submarine geoology/ plate movements in any way
C. Flower
28-02-2010, 01:13 AM
http://serc.carleton.edu/images/eet/earthquakes/EarthquakesPlateBoundaries.jpg
This shows the fault lines between plates.
(First posted in Tok. Jan 17th 2010)
C. Flower
28-02-2010, 01:14 AM
REPLY BY IBIS
A continuation of an old Machine Nation thread, in which reports of earthquakes were recorded.
I just came upon this excellent site which maps earthquakes globally in the last 7 days.
It shows a string of earthquakes from north america to Indonesia and also in the Caribbiean and gives a real impression of how the earth's crust is shifting.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/
Now here's a question - does sea temperature change affect submarine geoology/ plate movements in any way ?
It does - indeed, lots of things do. The tension in an earthquake-prone fault is balanced against the pressure of the overlying atmosphere, earth, and water. See here (http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20327273.800-climate-change-may-trigger-earthquakes-and-volcanoes.html) for a fuller summary.
C. Flower
28-02-2010, 01:16 AM
POSTED BY EVERCLOSERUNION
A continuation of an old Machine Nation thread, in which reports of earthquakes were recorded.
I just came upon this excellent site which maps earthquakes globally in the last 7 days.
It shows a string of earthquakes from north america to Indonesia and also in the Caribbiean and gives a real impression of how the earth's crust is shifting.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/
Now here's a question - does sea temperature change affect submarine geoology/ plate movements in any way ?
It does - indeed, lots of things do. The tension in an earthquake-prone fault is balanced against the pressure of the overlying atmosphere, earth, and water. See here (http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20327273.800-climate-change-may-trigger-earthquakes-and-volcanoes.html) for a fuller summary.
Loving those lines. Hundreds of miles away from Ireland, just the way I like them.
C. Flower
28-02-2010, 01:17 AM
Not always so far. I was taught that Ireland is the result of a collision between land masses that were "european" and "american".
I guess that the "suture" on this map might be something to do with the join.
http://www.tcd.ie/Geology/staff/chewd/images/All%20other%20pages/rock_units.jpg
http://www.tcd.ie/Geology/staff/chewd/Geol%20Ireland.php
C. Flower
28-02-2010, 01:19 AM
POSTED BY IBIS
Not always so far. I was taught that Ireland is the result of a collision between land masses that were "european" and "american".
I guess that the "suture" on this map might be something to do with the join.
http://www.tcd.ie/Geology/staff/chewd/images/All%20other%20pages/rock_units.jpg
http://www.tcd.ie/Geology/staff/chewd/Geol%20Ireland.php
Sure - Ireland started off on separate sides of an ocean called the Iapetus, with the north-west part of Laurentia (the same system of land as the Appalachians, Scotland, and Greenland), while the South was part of the microcontinent of Avalonia (Newfoundland, S. Ireland and England) - the latter collided first with Baltica (Scandinavia and parts of NE Europe) and then the two collided with Laurentia, closing the Iapetus.
However, that's 440-420 million years ago, and the Iapetus Suture was welded shut long long ago. It is no longer a plate boundary.
C. Flower
28-02-2010, 01:20 AM
18.1.2010
There have been earthquakes reported today off the coast of Argentina and in Guatemala and also off the coast of Argentina.
http://upcoming.current.com/items/748991_guatemala-earthquake-strong-quake-felt-but-no-damage.htm
C. Flower
28-02-2010, 01:21 AM
POSTED BY THRANDUIL
Was trying to explain to my twelve year old niece all about the plates and how earthquakes happen today. She is very curious about all aspects of how things work, from the planets to quakes.
t does - indeed, lots of things do. The tension in an earthquake-prone fault is balanced against the pressure of the overlying atmosphere, earth, and water. See here for a fuller summary.Then maybe Danny Glover wasn't being one hundred and ten percent illogical when he tried to make a connection between temperature change and the earthquake in Haiti (though i still believe 99.9% illogical is fair :lol:). From that article though global warming should reduce the occurrence of earthquakes if it results in higher sea levels (and therefore more pressure on the zones between the plates), unless the pressure must come one way or another and doing this causes the pressure to build up - producing a higher intensity release of pressure instead of smaller and safer ones... It makes you appreciate just how finely tuned Earth is with these equilibria and delicate balances in place that such a small thing like a rainy day could destabilise that volcano in Montserrat (as the article states) causing an eruption or that a little teeny bit closer our planet is to the sun making a major difference in temperature possibly making it too hot for us to survive on.
C. Flower
28-02-2010, 01:24 AM
I haven't been able to find any chronology of earthquakes over the last few centuries and haven't a clue if they are particularly frequent now. It seemed to me that there were a lot, 2008-2009, but its possible that the tsunami made the media, and me, more concious of them.
i am sure if they were becoming significantly more common we would hear about it. I suspect it is just on of those things, it has happened before and will again.
We are very lucky. I remember the one in the Irish sea in the 80s, I was in bed in the morning and the house started shaking, I thought it was a truck or plane passing.
5intheface
28-02-2010, 10:22 AM
Yes I remember my late Mother was visiting her sister in Santry and was woken by that, she just assumed it was a bomb then remembered she wasn't at home.
Fraxinus
28-02-2010, 11:55 AM
There was a small one in Donegal a few weeks back but how is this possible if the nearest fault line in way off. Or do the massive earthquakes occur around the fault lines while smaller ones can happen anywhere? I wish I paid attention in earth science.
estouxim
08-03-2010, 04:23 AM
Another one today - Turkey, 5,9
72 quakes above magnitude 5 in the last 7 days (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_big.php)
I know quakes are happening all the time, but so many, so strong?
C. Flower
08-03-2010, 06:52 AM
Thranduil's post is interesting, but the sea level change I believe is mainly due to the expansion of the water as it gets warmer. Sea temperatures worldwide in 2009 were on average highest "since records began", whenever that was.
Estouxim, I have also felt that we have had a lot of earthquakes over the last year or so, and logged them on a thread on Machine Nation, then Tok! and now here. I have read that some are cyclical and maybe expected to be very active every 120 years or so. There are little oscillations of the planet - maybe they have an effect?
I was fascinated to see that the Chilean earthquake had an effect on the length of the day (however infinitisal) and gave the entire planet a little jolt along its regular journey.
I understand the questioning as to whether there could be some human interention in this. In the case of Haiti, where the earthquake was so close to the surface and so close to the city, the question came up in my mind. But Haiti, like all of the earthquakes, took place on a known fault line where earthquakes are expected.
I would like to see some kind of timeline of earthquakes and their intensity over the last couple of hundred years, but it seems highly unlikely that such data exists.
The planet is not an inert thing, and while it has regular habits, some of these habits are violent, sudden and difficult to predict. What we can do is prepare for some of them. In earthquake zones the type of construction used has an enormous effect on the death rate if a serious earthquake occurs.
In answer to Fraxinus' question, Ibis said that Ireland's fault line has long ago sealed up, but I have heard geologists say that Ireland is moving slowly (Mary Harney must be pleased) towards the United States. The earth's crust is relatively very thin and its inside very hot and volatile, so i suppose the whole thing moves around to some extent.
There was an interesting thread also recently at Machine Nation from Evotingmachine, discussing "why the centre of the earth is still hot". The answer is fascinating and complex and I'll link it here some time.
C. Flower
08-03-2010, 02:44 PM
http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/dozens-killed-as-quake-hits-turkey-449180.html
An earthquake over 6 on the Richter scale hit Turkey this morning and flattened at least one village.
C. Flower
14-03-2010, 02:36 PM
A 6.5 earthquake in Central Japan just now. One of our members pm'd to say he was in the middle of it - Breaking News caught up pretty quickly.
http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/japan-hit-by-earthquake-449940.html
So far no reports of any injuries - Haiti was unprecedented in the numbers of deaths and injuries caused.
C. Flower
05-04-2010, 07:17 PM
http://www.google.ie/search?q=mexican+earthquake+2010+April&hl=en&tbs=nws:1&tbo=u&ei=Aje6S-b3HqT-0gSg1IE1&sa=X&oi=news_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBAQsQQwAA
7.2 Earthquake on the Mexican Coast, felt as far up as California.
Cassandra Syndrome
07-04-2010, 08:00 AM
Another biggie Sumatra 7.8.
YouTube- 7.8 earthquake strikes Sumatra in Indonesia
Ah Well
14-04-2010, 09:58 AM
6.9 magnitude quake in northwestern China's remote Qinghai province. Death toll presently in the hundreds
http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0414/china.html
Lifeisagame
14-04-2010, 10:14 AM
A 6.5 earthquake in Central Japan just now. One of our members pm'd to say he was in the middle of it - Breaking News caught up pretty quickly.
http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/japan-hit-by-earthquake-449940.html
So far no reports of any injuries - Haiti was unprecedented in the numbers of deaths and injuries caused.
I was the one that was in the Quake in Japan, referred to here.
I have been in many over the years, this being the biggest at 6.6.
I was lying in bed in hotel with laptop on chest working. It is, to say the least, interesting.
There was no sound before or after it, it lasted 30-40seconds. It was necessary to hold onto the bed. Being on the 5th floor I had zero chance of getting out if there was going to be damage to the hotel, there was none.
Most importantly to me was it gave me a deep understanding why so many are killed it a major quake like Haiti. you have no time to run you can only hope you survive. I did not have that fear as the buildings are are constructed to withstand major quakes.
Unusual experience however. I was also there in October last when the Super Typhoon hit, here you get warning and you just do not leave your room.
C. Flower
14-04-2010, 12:52 PM
It is a very strange feeling of complete powerlessness and uncertainty, isn't it ?
There's been a 6.5 earthquake in Tibet today, with more than 800 people killed and a lot injured.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/
C. Flower
18-04-2010, 02:35 PM
More than 1,800 people died in China last week and 100,000 homes are reported to have been destroyed.
This site shows the location of earthquakes in the last 7 days, not including those in Iceland.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/
Kid Ryder
18-04-2010, 04:10 PM
i am sure if they were becoming significantly more common we would hear about it. I suspect it is just on of those things, it has happened before and will again.
We are very lucky. I remember the one in the Irish sea in the 80s, I was in bed in the morning and the house started shaking, I thought it was a truck or plane passing.
If there were a change in seismic or volcanic activity in Ireland, the insurers would hear about it first, long before the 'punters' would spot any change. I guess all we'd notice would be the rise in the price of home coverage!
Lifeisagame
18-04-2010, 06:01 PM
If there were a change in seismic or volcanic activity in Ireland, the insurers would hear about it first, long before the 'punters' would spot any change. I guess all we'd notice would be the rise in the price of home coverage!
LOL OPPS LOL
Nah Dont think so
On a Serious Note we are already paying money we cannot afford to areas affected by Natural Disaster,
Home is where the heart is.
C. Flower
02-05-2010, 06:09 PM
Another 5.8 earthquake in Chile, felt in Santiago.
http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/quake-hits-chile-456150.html
C. Flower
12-06-2010, 09:33 PM
Tsnami alert. Maybe think of moving to higher ground.
http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/tsunami-alert-issued-in-indian-ocean-461439.html
A tsunami watch has been issued for all areas of the Indian Ocean following a 7.7-magnitude earthquake.
The epicentre was around 100 miles from India's Nicobar Islands.
The alert covers coastal areas of Indonesia, Sri Lanka, Burma, Thailand, and Malaysia.
Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/tsunami-alert-issued-in-indian-ocean-461439.html#ixzz0qg2JZCUt
Ah Well
12-06-2010, 10:42 PM
The Pacific Tsunami Warning Center in Hawaii also revised an earlier regional tsunami watch that was put in effect for all areas of the Indian Ocean, including India, Indonesia, Sri Lanka, Myanmar, Thailand and Malaysia.
'Due to the downward revision of the earthquake magnitude to 7.5 as well as additional analysis of the earthquake ... the area of the watch is now reduced only to India,' it said on its website (www.weather.gov/ptwc/).
C. Flower
08-07-2010, 07:14 AM
5.7 earthquake about 6 hours ago in California.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/
C. Flower
16-07-2010, 01:54 PM
A 2.6 earthquake under Washington D.C. rattle the coffee cups today.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38274327/ns/us_news-life/
Correction - 3.6
C. Flower
23-07-2010, 11:28 PM
7.2 earthquake at Mindanao, the Philipines - move to high ground I think if you are anywhere about that direction.
http://geofon.gfz-potsdam.de/db/eqpage.php?id=gfz2010oikx
Ah Well
23-07-2010, 11:37 PM
7.2 earthquake at Mindanao, the Philipines - move to high ground I think if you are anywhere about that direction.
http://geofon.gfz-potsdam.de/db/eqpage.php?id=gfz2010oikx
Crap - that's serious ... 4 Earthquakes have been recorded there ... mags 7.3, 5.4, 7.4, 7.4 :eek:
http://twitter.com/en_wikinews
C. Flower
23-07-2010, 11:42 PM
Look here -
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/
This event has been reviewed by a seismologist.
Magnitude (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/glossary.php#magnitude)7.4Date-Time (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/glossary.php#date)
Friday, July 23, 2010 at 23:15:08 UTC
Saturday, July 24, 2010 at 07:15:08 AM at epicenter
Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones (http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/bulletin/neic_zbcd_tz.html)
Location (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/glossary.php#location)6.749°N, 123.268°EDepth (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/glossary.php#depth)616.7 km (383.2 miles)Region (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/glossary.php#region)MORO GULF, MINDANAO, PHILIPPINESDistances (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/glossary.php#distances)120 km (75 miles) S of Pagadian, Mindanao, Philippines
120 km (75 miles) WSW of Cotabato, Mindanao, Philippines
135 km (85 miles) E of Zamboanga, Mindanao, Philippines
900 km (560 miles) SSE of MANILA, Philippines
Location Uncertainty (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/glossary.php#uncertainty)horizontal +/- 14.7 km (9.1 miles); depth +/- 9.6 km (6.0 miles)Parameters (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/glossary.php#parameters)NST=174, Nph=175, Dmin=258.3 km, Rmss=1.13 sec, Gp= 22°,
M-type="moment" magnitude from initial P wave (tsuboi method) (Mi/Mwp), Version=6Source (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/glossary.php#source)
USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)
Event ID (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/glossary.php#eventid)us2010zbcd
C. Flower
24-03-2011, 02:28 PM
A couple of earthquakes in Burma - over 7 on the scale, and less than 10 k deep.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2011/0324/breaking40.html
No tsunami expected as they were far from the coast, near the border with Thailand.
jinnyjoe
24-03-2011, 09:31 PM
i am sure if they were becoming significantly more common we would hear about it. I suspect it is just on of those things, it has happened before and will again.
We are very lucky. I remember the one in the Irish sea in the 80s, I was in bed in the morning and the house started shaking, I thought it was a truck or plane passing.
I'm lol at this as well, because I was in bed too and felt my bed move and thought it was my younger brother acting the b******s underneath it and remember shouting that if he didn't get out of my room now, I would smash all his stupid steely dan records to pieces, I was amazed not to hear a reply even if was just bit*h.
C. Flower
24-03-2011, 09:32 PM
I'm lol at this as well, because I was in bed too and felt my bed move and thought it was my younger brother acting the b******s underneath it and remember shouting that if he didn't get out of my room now, I would smash all his stupid steely dan records to pieces, I was amazed not to hear a reply even if was just bit*h.
:):):)
Ah Well
01-04-2011, 03:03 PM
A strong earthquake has struck the Greek island of Crete.
Local police said they had no immediate reports of damage or injuries.
The German Research Centre for Geosciences in Potsdam, Germany, says today’s quake had a preliminary magnitude of 6.2 and struck at 4:29 pm local time.
The US Geological Survey gave the preliminary magnitude as 5.9.
Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/strong-quake-hits-crete-499566.html#ixzz1IHgGDO5c
C. Flower
01-04-2011, 04:07 PM
A strong earthquake has struck the Greek island of Crete.
Local police said they had no immediate reports of damage or injuries.
The German Research Centre for Geosciences in Potsdam, Germany, says today’s quake had a preliminary magnitude of 6.2 and struck at 4:29 pm local time.
The US Geological Survey gave the preliminary magnitude as 5.9.
Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/strong-quake-hits-crete-499566.html#ixzz1IHgGDO5c
4.5 miles below ground. Isn't Crete volcanic as well ?
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/
Hapax
01-04-2011, 04:23 PM
4.5 miles below ground. Isn't Crete volcanic as well ?
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/
Well, Santorini, a neighbouring island, "is the site of one of the largest volcanic eruptions in recorded history," which is generally credited with wiping out the Minoan civilization.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santorini
morticia
01-04-2011, 08:10 PM
Don't forget, the whole Med is one big subduction zone.
Griska
16-04-2011, 02:01 PM
There was a very interesting documentary on just now about the 1906 San Francisco earthquake.
Apparently, there was an enormous cover up by city officials regarding the rebuilding of the city.
They doctored information, including photos and within hours it was being called the "San Francisco Fire".
morticia
16-04-2011, 02:07 PM
Apparently, there's an alert over Taal volcano in the Philippines; close enough to Manila
http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0416/education.html
Also quake swarm in Nevada http://www.mynews4.com/story.php?id=41029&n=122
C. Flower
16-04-2011, 02:18 PM
I'm going to edit the thread title, as it's become our general earthquake thread.
morticia
16-04-2011, 02:39 PM
Much better.....
jinnyjoe
16-04-2011, 03:32 PM
Another one in Queensland this morning measuring 5.2
http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/quake-rocks-australian-cities-501541.html
Ah Well
16-04-2011, 06:39 PM
Also quake swarm in Nevada http://www.mynews4.com/story.php?id=41029&n=122
hmmmm ...
David Wilkerson in his Book (The Vision) in 1974 predicted a very large earthquake in the USA and that it would be preceded by earthquakes, possibly in Japan. Also said this would occur in an area not known as an earthquake belt and that it would trigger two other major earthquakes ...
Probably a load of twaddle ... but then ya never know ;)
morticia
16-04-2011, 07:56 PM
hmmmm ...
David Wilkerson in his Book (The Vision) in 1974 predicted a very large earthquake in the USA and that it would be preceded by earthquakes, possibly in Japan. Also said this would occur in an area not known as an earthquake belt and that it would trigger two other major earthquakes ...
Probably a load of twaddle ... but then ya never know ;)
not beyond the bounds of possibility. The best contender is the New Madrid faultline that runs through Memphis, Tennessee. This is thought to have given rise to large earthquakes in the past, perhaps, but those whacking up stone buildings in the 19th and 20th century had no idea; hence the area is not quake proofed in the way that, say, California is.
Another area ripe for geological disruption is the Cascadia fault off Vancouver Island, which has been quiet since the 16th century. If it blows, it will be a Japanese style Category 9 and will flatten Nanaimo, Victoria and Vancouver. Worryingly, tsunamigenic potential is very high and lower parts of Vancouver could be subject to liquefaction. Again, this has only come to light in recent years, so the buildings are not earthquake proofed, nor do I think sea walls are of Japanese standards (although, as we have seen recently, even those were no match for a Cat 9).
morticia
16-04-2011, 08:10 PM
There was a small one in Donegal a few weeks back but how is this possible if the nearest fault line in way off. Or do the massive earthquakes occur around the fault lines while smaller ones can happen anywhere? I wish I paid attention in earth science.
I'm afraid seismic forecasting is still a dark art, so paying attention in school may do you no good in that regard. Here are my best guesses....
As far as I am aware, every country in the world was part of one or many geologically active zones in its past. As the plates move, regions of land move with them, being taken closer, or further away, from trouble. However, the faults, which may once have been active, move with them. Most of what underlies Ireland is pretty inert, more so even than the UK, which has seen category 5 quakes in its past (one hit London in the 15th-16th centuries, and a 4.5 hit it again in recent years. Worst damage involved a few chimney collapses, I believe). However, nowhere is completely dead; stress can be transmitted from the nearest active zone (in our case, probably the Mediterranean subduction zone), through networks of interlocking faults. So stress in an active fault can be transmitted by quake to a less active fault, which may slip a few years later, transmitting more stress further up the network, and so on. However, I'd imagine that, further away from a subduction zone (or the mid Atlantic ridge, where the plates are moving apart), the stress gradually dissipates, meaning that each successive earthquake gets less intense??
However, quakes of 1-3 on the scale could probably also be caused by minor undersea subsidence or a large scale landslip, or even human activity (drilling in the region etc). Or, since Donegal is probably the closest land to southern Iceland, stress transmitted from last year's eruption. Never fear, though, unlike N. America, we have a long historical record (written records probably go back as far as the fifth century, with monasticization). Mythology does relate "orphan tsunamis" (occurring without an accompanying quake, inferring that the geological event causing the wave was powerful, but far away), and the historical record has evidence of more tsunamis after the Lisbon earthquakes (1750s, 60s, see PW blog), evidence of huge quakes is lacking.
Ah Well
16-04-2011, 10:24 PM
Seems to have been another recent aftershock in Christchurch, NZ ... mag 5.3
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/newsdetail1.asp?storyID=194738
C. Flower
08-05-2011, 06:41 PM
Fascinating programme on RTE 2 on earthquakes.
A new one on me - apparently, dams can cause earthquakes.
morticia
12-05-2011, 10:07 PM
Nasty earthquake in Lorca, Murcia, Spain
Two shocks, apparently "only" 5 and 4 on the Richter, but still, we have collapsing buildings and estimates of 8 people dead.
A church bell almost collapsed on top of a TV journalist who was filming outside the church at the time.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13384572
Apparently people are "starting" to question the quality of local construction (no sh!t???)
jinnyjoe
05-06-2011, 06:37 PM
Another volcano now in Chile which hasn't erupted in over half a century.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0605/chile.html
jinnyjoe
05-06-2011, 09:07 PM
Another volcano now in Chile which hasn't erupted in over half a century.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0605/chile.html
Don't expect many if any replies on this thread (at present) just recording this as a note for further posts. Good to keep a rolling record methinks!!
Ah Well
05-06-2011, 09:19 PM
Can add to that Mexico's Popocatepetl Volcano 37 miles southeast of Mexico City
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/centralamericaandthecaribbean/mexico/8556626/Mexicos-Popocatepetl-volcano-erupts.html
morticia
07-06-2011, 05:47 AM
The Chilean event looks serious; apparently a wide fissure (6miles long and half a mile wide) has opened in the Earth's crust at this site.
Ah Well
07-06-2011, 02:56 PM
The Chilean event looks serious; apparently a wide fissure (6miles long and half a mile wide) has opened in the Earth's crust at this site.
Check out the pics in this slideshow ...... stunning
http://latino.foxnews.com/slideshow/latino/news/2011/06/06/chile-volcano-erupts/#slide=1
some explosions on the sun. Looks big, considering the size of the bloody thing
http://www.space.com/11891-huge-sun-eruption-june-7-2011.html
C. Flower
07-06-2011, 10:28 PM
some explosions on the sun. Looks big, considering the size of the bloody thing
http://www.space.com/11891-huge-sun-eruption-june-7-2011.html
Amazing !!!
jinnyjoe
08-06-2011, 08:24 PM
some explosions on the sun. Looks big, considering the size of the bloody thing
http://www.space.com/11891-huge-sun-eruption-june-7-2011.html
Any idea what these explosions on the Sun mean D Con? :confused:
Ah Well
08-06-2011, 08:58 PM
Any idea what these explosions on the Sun mean D Con? :confused:
http://theweek.com/article/index/216070/the-epic-explosions-on-the-surface-of-the-sun
morticia
14-06-2011, 07:08 PM
well, we've had a pretty good week or two on the volcanoes and earthquakes front..
http://www.irishweatheronline.com/category/news/earthquakesvolcanos
ash clouds from Puyehue in Chile grounding flights in New Zealand, thousands of miles away.
Nabro volcano in Eritrea has erupted, ash cloud at about 30,000 feet. And we have earthquakes in Christchurch (again).
Is Mother Earth out to punish us?? Could be an interesting winter.
Ah Well
03-07-2011, 12:36 PM
A volcano in central Indonesia has erupted in clouds of smoke and searing gas that shot up nearly 20,000 feet into the air.
State volcanologist Surono said no one was injured when Mount Soputan, located on Sulawesi island, exploded early today.
The nearest villages are well outside the danger zone and there are no immediate evacuation plans.
Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/ring-of-fire-volcano-erupts-in-central-indonesia-511361.html#ixzz1R2rW6yZz
There were quite a few in that part of the world showing signs recently of activity .. is this one of those?
Another (bigger) Icelandic volcano could be about to blow
"Experts say one of Iceland's most feared volcanoes looks ready to erupt, with measurements indicating magma movement, raising fears of a new ash cloud halting flights over Europe. The Iceland Civil Protection Authority says it is closely monitoring the situation. "The movements around Hekla have been unusual in the last two to three days," University of Iceland geophysicist Pall Einarsson said." Hekla's eruption would certainly have far more dire consequences on European airspace than Grimsvotn, which merely succeeded in getting Obama to vacate Ireland sooner than expected: "The volcano, dubbed by Icelanders in the Middle Ages as the "Gateway to Hell," is one of Iceland's most active, having erupted some 20 times over the past millennium, most recently on February 26, 2000. Over the past 50 years, Hekla has gone off about once a decade." And so Europe, once again caught in the maelstrom of a sovereign debt crunch, will be sensitive to headline risk, as the last thing the continent which is now doing all it can to ostracize rating agencies, as if its insolvency is their fault, is a continent-wide grounding of all flights.
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/iceland-going-trifecta-gateway-hell-volcano-prepares-blow
Ah Well
06-07-2011, 05:07 PM
Another (bigger) Icelandic volcano could be about to blow
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/iceland-going-trifecta-gateway-hell-volcano-prepares-blow
Yeah, there's been some action re Hekla recently alright ... Katla has to blow it's top by April next as well to keep with tradition ;)
Ah Well
06-07-2011, 05:09 PM
And what's going on here ...
http://en.vedur.is/photos/jarrnhr/110706_1700.png
jinnyjoe
06-07-2011, 06:32 PM
And what's going on here ...
http://en.vedur.is/photos/jarrnhr/110706_1700.png
Not very up on these things Ah Well, can you elaborate????
C. Flower
06-07-2011, 06:53 PM
Not very up on these things Ah Well, can you elaborate????
I think the little red blobs show places where there have been earth tremors in the last 24 hours.
jinnyjoe
06-07-2011, 07:02 PM
I think the little red blobs show places where there have been earth tremors in the last 24 hours.
This I assume is a map of Iceland? I had to go look up one and compare, why you make me work so hard "Ah well" :D Off now to do a bit more investigating on this matter, will let you know what I find.
C. Flower
06-07-2011, 07:16 PM
Something very big here to the east of Australia in the last hour
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/
Magnitude 7.8 (Preliminary magnitude — update expected within 15 minutes)
Date-Time Wednesday, July 06, 2011 at 19:03:16 UTC
Thursday, July 07, 2011 at 07:03:16 AM at epicenter
Location 29.400°S, 175.700°W
Depth 48 km (29.8 miles) set by location program
Region KERMADEC ISLANDS REGION
Distances 211 km (131 miles) E (95°) from Raoul Island, Kermadec Islands
919 km (571 miles) S (183°) from NUKU'ALOFA, Tonga
2964 km (1842 miles) WSW (239°) from PAPEETE, Tahiti, French Polynesia
Location Uncertainty Error estimate not available
Parameters NST= 22, Nph= 22, Dmin=245 km, Rmss=1.41 sec, Gp=184°,
M-type="moment" magnitude from initial P wave (tsuboi method) (Mi/Mwp), Version=1
Source West Coast and Alaska Tsunami Warning Center/NOAA/NWS
Event ID at00lnxe9i
Sam Lord
06-07-2011, 07:18 PM
Could it be the end of days?
jinnyjoe
06-07-2011, 07:20 PM
The person who wrote this article about the Icelandic Volcano seems to be talking alot of sense, the most interesting part of the article though for me, is that if and when it does erupt (which could be several years away) we can watch it on webcam from the start, now that's something!
http://bigthink.com/ideas/39169
C. Flower
06-07-2011, 07:23 PM
Could it be the end of days?
I do hope not, for anyone.
Tsunami warning for New Zealand and Tonga.
Sam Lord
06-07-2011, 07:24 PM
Is it possible she was only a couple of months out?
http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n611/boavista1/110103-Apocalypse-hmed-130agrid-6x2.jpg
I do hope not, for anyone.
Tsunami warning for New Zealand and Tonga.
NZ tsunami warning cancelled
Civil Defence has cancelled a tsunami warning for New Zealand which had been triggered by a powerful quake in the Pacific.
New Zealand Civil Defence said it expected a swell generated by a powerful 7.6-magnitude earthquake which struck near the Kermadec Islands, to cause strong currents but not damage to the land.
Civil Defence said the advice from GNS Science was that the tsunami did not represent a threat to New Zealand.
However, scientists expected that there would be unusually strong tidal surges and currents.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/south-pacific/5247210/Tsunami-warning-for-New-Zealand-cancelled
Count Bobulescu
07-07-2011, 03:17 AM
Not to derail this thread, I just thought this was the best place to park this. It’s kinda volcano-ish.
Watch video of massive dust storm 50-60 miles wide and up to two miles high swallow city of Phoenix AZ. Several different vids. Some vids work others don’t. Play around.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/phoenix-dust-storm-covers-city-in-darkness-video/2011/07/06/gIQAlEmT0H_blog.html#here
C. Flower
07-07-2011, 08:12 AM
Not to derail this thread, I just thought this was the best place to park this. It’s kinda volcano-ish.
Watch video of massive dust storm 50-60 miles wide and up to two miles high swallow city of Phoenix AZ. Several different vids. Some vids work others don’t. Play around.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/phoenix-dust-storm-covers-city-in-darkness-video/2011/07/06/gIQAlEmT0H_blog.html#here
Extraordinary.
Ah Well
19-07-2011, 08:10 PM
An earthquake of preliminary magnitude 5 has struck off the Greek island of Zakynthos, but no injuries or damage have been reported, authorities said today.
The Athens Geodynamic Institute said the undersea quake struck at 10.13am (7.13 Irish time), and had its epicentre about 62 miles (100km) off the island's south-western coast.
Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/earthquake-shakes-greek-island-513313.html#ixzz1SaGZ7RF5
Mount Etna went off today
Iceland, Greece and Italy all have tectonic activity. What else have these Nations got in common??
http://www.indianasnewscenter.com/news/local/Mount-Etna-Erupts-Sixth-Time-This-Year-125840263.html
Ah Well
16-08-2011, 08:50 AM
A powerful earthquake has struck in the sea off Indonesia.
The country’s meteorology and geophysics agency said the quake had a preliminary magnitude of 6.5.
It hit 340 miles (547km) south-west of Bintuhan, a town on Sumatra island, just 6 miles (10km) under the ocean floor.
Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/powerful-quake-hits-off-indonesia-516707.html#ixzz1VBDlY4cY
Buddha
16-08-2011, 08:57 AM
A powerful earthquake has struck in the sea off Indonesia.
The country’s meteorology and geophysics agency said the quake had a preliminary magnitude of 6.5.
It hit 340 miles (547km) south-west of Bintuhan, a town on Sumatra island, just 6 miles (10km) under the ocean floor.
Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/powerful-quake-hits-off-indonesia-516707.html#ixzz1VBDlY4cY
The Earth is rioting.
Ah Well
16-08-2011, 09:06 AM
Doesn't seem to be any tsunami warning so far
http://ptwc.weather.gov/?region=3
Ah Well
16-08-2011, 09:07 AM
False alarm it seems
A small but shallow earthquake hit the sea off Indonesia today, causing no injuries or reports of damage.
The 4.6-magnitude quake was centred 340 miles (547km) south-west of Sumatra island, just 6 miles (10km) under the ocean floor, said Apriliyanto, an official at the country’s meteorology and geophysics agency.
Earlier, the agency put the magnitude at 6.5, sending out alerts to officials and journalists by mobile phone text message.
A glitch in the agency’s computer was responsible for the error
Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/small-earthquake-hits-off-indonesia-516707.html#ixzz1VBIcJGM0
jinnyjoe
19-08-2011, 05:27 PM
3 fairly big earthquakes today
6.2 Fiji Region
6.3 East Coast Honshu, Japan
5.3 Kuril Islands
Alot of seismic activity lately in these regions, are we gearing up for even bigger ones? :(
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.php
Captain Con O'Sullivan
19-08-2011, 06:13 PM
If this keeps up we definitely will find ourselves at the heart of Europe one of these days.
C. Flower
19-08-2011, 06:19 PM
3 fairly big earthquakes today
6.2 Fiji Region
6.3 East Coast Honshu, Japan
5.3 Kuril Islands
Alot of seismic activity lately in these regions, are we gearing up for even bigger ones? :(
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.php
The one off the coast of Japan was particularly worrying. It's covered in nuclear power stations and it seems now that it was the earthquake, not the tsunami, that caused a lot of the damage at Fukushima.
jinnyjoe
19-08-2011, 06:59 PM
The one off the coast of Japan was particularly worrying. It's covered in nuclear power stations and it seems now that it was the earthquake, not the tsunami, that caused a lot of the damage at Fukushima.
There has always being strong seismic activity in these regions, excuse my ignorance but why on earth have they built nucleur power stations in the first place? The mind boggles at such mindless stupidity and disregard for the innocent citizens and workers.:mad:
morticia
19-08-2011, 07:30 PM
There has always being strong seismic activity in these regions, excuse my ignorance but why on earth have they built nucleur power stations in the first place? The mind boggles at such mindless stupidity and disregard for the innocent citizens and workers.:mad:
They were designed to withstand an 8.0 quake (the largest in recorded history at the time of the building in the 60s and 70s). No-one counted on a 9.0 with 130ft tsunami.
and they were very worried about energy security. No oil reserves of their own. In a very industrially dependent economy
They are good engineers, they thought they could tame their environment. They thought wrong, sadly
jinnyjoe
19-08-2011, 07:44 PM
They were designed to withstand an 8.0 quake (the largest in recorded history at the time of the building in the 60s and 70s). No-one counted on a 9.0 with 130ft tsunami.
and they were very worried about energy security. No oil reserves of their own. In a very industrially dependent economy
They are good engineers, they thought they could tame their environment. They thought wrong, sadly
Thanks for that info Morticia, it's all terribly sad isn't it? And why are the earthquakes much stronger now do you think? Jeepers , is it the end of the world? It's that comet elenins fault isn't it, our day of reckoning is coming. lol but seriously why are we getting much more serious seismic activity and there seems to be alot of volcanic activity lately too, it's a tad worrying all the same.:eek:
morticia
19-08-2011, 07:49 PM
Thanks for that info Morticia, it's all terribly sad isn't it? And why are the earthquakes much stronger now do you think? Jeepers , is it the end of the world? It's that comet elenins fault isn't it, our day of reckoning is coming. lol but seriously why are we getting much more serious seismic activity and there seems to be alot of volcanic activity lately too, it's a tad worrying all the same.:eek:
I'm not sure the current levels of seismic activity are particularly high by comparison.The problem is that human populations ARE at an all time high and more are trying to live on shaky parts of the planet than ever before. It is also thought that the mid-late 20th century was possibly rather quiet geologically, given new evidence on the incidence of earthquakes in the past. No matter what happens, though, I suspect it has happened somewhere on Earth before....
Yes, it is sad. Not sure the Japanese deserved what happens...I've been there and they're usually a conscientious, efficient lot. Possibly got a bit overconfident re their abilities in the engineering department, though.
jinnyjoe
19-08-2011, 07:52 PM
I'm not sure the current levels of seismic activity are particularly high by comparison.The problem is that human populations ARE at an all time high and more are trying to live on shaky parts of the planet than ever before. It is also thought that the mid-late 20th century was possibly rather quiet geologically, given new evidence on the incidence of earthquakes in the past. No matter what happens, though, I suspect it has happened somewhere on Earth before....
Yes, it is sad. Not sure the Japanese deserved what happens...I've been there and they're usually a conscientious, efficient lot. Possibly got a bit overconfident re their abilities in the engineering department, though.
Thanks again, I'll go to bed now feeling a bit more reassured :)
morticia
19-08-2011, 07:56 PM
Thanks again, I'll go to bed now feeling a bit more reassured :)
Our glorious nation may have volatile financial issues, but it's some of the most seismically inert real estate on the planet. More so even than the UK. The south and west coasts may not be entirely tsunami proof, but there are far fewer plausible sources of such in the Atlantic than in the Pacific....rift zones cause far less trouble than subduction zones.
Sleep well.
Captain Con O'Sullivan
23-08-2011, 06:21 PM
Measured 5.8 on the scale ... Ron Perry wants to bomb it, Michele Bachmann says 'its my quake, beeyatch' to Sarah Palin, Donald Trump wants to see its birth certificate, Justin Bieber seen in new 'Quake hairstyle.
Earthquake in Virginia, Washington (government, not little people) evacuated..
US Capitol evacuated after shaking, Reuters reports.
During a live shot in NY, CNBC reported feeling the building shake.
5.8 quake now reported in Virginia,
http://www.forexlive.com/blog/2011/08/23/earthquake-in-washington/
Count Bobulescu
23-08-2011, 06:25 PM
Wow, just experienced my first earthquake, about 20 minutes ago, lasted about 20 seconds, stuff fell of the bookshelves. Preliminarily, a 5.8 centered 100 miles south of DC felt from North Carolina to New York. No reported casualties so far. They had the 5.8 on the radio within 5 minutes. Thousands on the streets as high rises evacuated. Makes you feel for Japan.
Captain Con O'Sullivan
23-08-2011, 06:26 PM
Now upgraded to 5.9 ... they've supersized it. Notice that the Earth Move thread has been resurrected so if any mod wants to fold this one into that then I'm happy ..
Count Bobulescu
23-08-2011, 06:32 PM
was 3.8 miles deep.
Spectabilis
23-08-2011, 06:37 PM
Threads merged at your request Cap'n. Let me know if it's not working smoothly.
Count Bobulescu
23-08-2011, 06:38 PM
Looks like the WaPo site is overwhelmed.
Sam Lord
23-08-2011, 06:39 PM
Clearly felt here in Ontario....
Count Bobulescu
23-08-2011, 06:41 PM
Reports of building collapse just three blocks from the capitol.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/earthquake-rattles-washington-east-coast/2011/08/23/gIQAdypEZJ_blog.html?hpid=z1
Count Bobulescu
23-08-2011, 06:50 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/earthquake-rattles-washington-east-coast/2011/08/23/gIQAdypEZJ_blog.html?hpid=z1
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/earthquake-rattles-washington-east-coast/2011/08/23/gIQAdypEZJ_blog.html?hpid=z1)
Captain Con O'Sullivan
23-08-2011, 06:51 PM
Laurel wreath for first press release spotted blaming Barack 'Whoooooseyynnn' Obama.
Andrew49
23-08-2011, 06:52 PM
Just rewriting Pat Robertsons's speech about Gay days at Disneyworld
"I would warn Orlando [substitute New York] that you're right in the way of some serious hurricanes, and I don't think I'd be waving those flags in God's face if I were you, This is not a message of hate -- this is a message of redemption. But a condition like this will bring about the destruction of your nation. It'll bring about terrorist bombs; it'll bring earthquakes, tornadoes, and possibly a meteor."
Captain Con O'Sullivan
23-08-2011, 07:00 PM
Aw. Ain't he sweet?
TotalMayhem
23-08-2011, 07:06 PM
Just rewriting Pat Robertsons's speech about Gay days at Disneyworld
"I would warn Orlando [substitute New York] that you're right in the way of some serious hurricanes, and I don't think I'd be waving those flags in God's face if I were you, This is not a message of hate -- this is a message of redemption. But a condition like this will bring about the destruction of your nation. It'll bring about terrorist bombs; it'll bring earthquakes, tornadoes, and possibly a meteor."
Soon Pat Robinson will hear from all of us!
Captain Con O'Sullivan
23-08-2011, 07:13 PM
But a condition like this will bring about the destruction of your nation.
Love the way these evangelical nutbars elevate themselves above everything. The ego is huge for someone to use the term 'your' nation instead of 'our' nation.
Bad case of deity-contact ego there from Pat. Prophetitis.
Count Bobulescu
23-08-2011, 07:39 PM
DC Fire & EMS reporting lots of minor injuries, nothing serious so far. Several schools and the Ecuadorian Embassy reporting building damage. Schools have reopened here. Roof tiles fell at National Airport. Looks like all flights temporarily grounded on the east coast. Long delays on Metro while engineers check track.
morticia
23-08-2011, 07:55 PM
Oh Lordy; what's the chance of a bigger one?? Hopefully low. People were very worried about the Memphis/New Madrid areas, but those are a good way to the west.
Been a few shakers in eastern Canada and the US recently. Wonder what is on the move there?
Count Bobulescu
23-08-2011, 08:00 PM
This article has a graphic comparing today, with the quakes in Haiti and Japan. Two Nuclear plants automatically shutdown. Put’s it in perspective. We had a small aftershock, so hopefully that alleviates the concern that the 5.9 was a foreshock.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/earthquake-rattles-washington-area/2011/08/23/gIQATMOGZJ_story.html?hpid=z1
morticia
23-08-2011, 08:05 PM
So far, no one killed, right?
Count Bobulescu
23-08-2011, 08:15 PM
So far, no one killed, right?
No reports of deaths. A building just three blocks from the Capitol, partially collapsed. It housed a bank.:)
Captain Con O'Sullivan
23-08-2011, 08:17 PM
Lets hope it was an Irish one.
5intheface
23-08-2011, 08:20 PM
Lets hope it was an Irish one.
Nah, at this stage they could only collapse upwards.
Captain Con O'Sullivan
23-08-2011, 08:32 PM
Ha, ha ... 'collapse upwards' is a pure Lenihanism:) I like it though....
morticia
23-08-2011, 08:34 PM
Ha, ha ... 'collapse upwards' is a pure Lenihanism:) I like it though....
Isn't that what they did during the boom...:eek:
Captain Con O'Sullivan
23-08-2011, 08:46 PM
Wasn't that sideways because corners were being turned? Of course the Gardai are now busy looking up trees and under stones. They'll have an ornithology and palaentology section before we know it.
Wonder how Garda Joe and Sergeant Siobhan are getting on with their shtubby pencil on the old Anglo investigation. Not feeding the dog in the hope he'll eat the evidence maybe?
TotalMayhem
23-08-2011, 08:50 PM
Ha, ha ... 'collapse upwards' is a pure Lenihanism:) I like it though....
Will you please leave St Lenny alone, he is where he is. ;)
Captain Con O'Sullivan
23-08-2011, 09:01 PM
I caused a bit of a fuss in another house by writing a satirical newspiece on Conor Lenihan and Mammy leading a pilgrimage while carrying a portrait picture of Sir Dead accompanied by a Cardinal from a graveyard to Dublin West:) While intoning decades of the rosary and with lunch laid on at a local Fianna Fail Cumann.
There was uproar. Satire is alive and well and still horrifying the conservatively stupid in Ireland. The stupid, it burned.... a few people were even fooled into thinking it was a genuine news story. Which is the point about political satire and allegory.
morticia
23-08-2011, 09:05 PM
Ahhh, Captain, people are very respectful of the deceased here, especially when untimely death is involved.
Once sympathy is involved, it's hard to make a point that way. The living and the long-dead tend to make better targets...
I'm torn on this one... I do appreciate the way people are normally very sympathetic towards each others' troubles here. Not always the case elsewhere and it can get very callous.
Captain Con O'Sullivan
23-08-2011, 09:10 PM
I know ... thats what makes an Irish audience almost uniquely susceptible to edgy satire involving someone's death or funeral.
I found it quite telling that some would find it believable that Mammy and Conor Lenihan would process across Dublin holding up pictures of Sir Dead and intoning the rosary as they went- proceeding towards Dublin West and bye-election territory. I even faked the Cardinal's name and some people still treated it as a news item.
I must rescue it ...
Captain Con O'Sullivan
23-08-2011, 09:13 PM
I've the old fellow deeply worried as every time he annoys me I remind him that I'm the eldest and will most likely be speaking at his funeral. This does make him nervous for some reason.
EVIL. However I have said to him that at any point if he finds what I'm saying objectionable he only has to raise his hand. I could see the momentary relief until he remembered there might be a little difficulty with that maneouver.
I think he's made up his mind to outlive me. Out of fear.
Count Bobulescu
24-08-2011, 06:27 AM
An hour after the event WaPo had a round-up of the Best Earthquake Tweets.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/top-16-earthquake-tweets/2011/08/23/gIQANgmJZJ_blog.html?fb_ref=NetworkNews
As usual, the PBS Newshour had the most level headed TV reporting. Piece below runs eleven minutes. First couple of mins is set up, then an explanation starts about 4.50 mins in. Right at the end USGS guy explains, Haiti was 10-15 times larger, Japan was 1,000 times larger than Haiti, and released 33-50k times more energy than Virginia. Then you think about the casualty rates.
Californians were mocking the east coasters, but they are very different types of earthquakes. In California the geographic extent is limited, because there are many faults that disrupt spread. This one was felt from Georgia up to New England, and all the way over to Sam Lord’s neck and back down to Georgia. That’s a big area. You could probably fit most of Europe into that. Likely close to two million square miles.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/weather/july-dec11/earthquake_08-23.html
I was in my second floor home office about 120 miles from the epicenter and it felt as if the house moved a couple of degrees off center, maybe a foot or so each way over 20 seconds, interspersed with a pneumatic drill type vibration. First, five seconds of mild “what the hell is that”? Like very heavy truck vibrations, Then maybe 5-10 secs of calm, and then maybe 20 secs of whoopee. BBC had video of a guy in a hotel at Dulles airport knocked to the floor. Apparently, at the epicenter whoopee lasted about a minute.
TotalMayhem
24-08-2011, 11:07 AM
http://i.imgur.com/47FQi.jpg
jinnyjoe
24-08-2011, 03:12 PM
An hour after the event WaPo had a round-up of the Best Earthquake Tweets.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/top-16-earthquake-tweets/2011/08/23/gIQANgmJZJ_blog.html?fb_ref=NetworkNews
As usual, the PBS Newshour had the most level headed TV reporting. Piece below runs eleven minutes. First couple of mins is set up, then an explanation starts about 4.50 mins in. Right at the end USGS guy explains, Haiti was 10-15 times larger, Japan was 1,000 times larger than Haiti, and released 33-50k times more energy than Virginia. Then you think about the casualty rates.
Californians were mocking the east coasters, but they are very different types of earthquakes. In California the geographic extent is limited, because there are many faults that disrupt spread. This one was felt from Georgia up to New England, and all the way over to Sam Lord’s neck and back down to Georgia. That’s a big area. You could probably fit most of Europe into that. Likely close to two million square miles.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/weather/july-dec11/earthquake_08-23.html
I was in my second floor home office about 120 miles from the epicenter and it felt as if the house moved a couple of degrees off center, maybe a foot or so each way over 20 seconds, interspersed with a pneumatic drill type vibration. First, five seconds of mild “what the hell is that”? Like very heavy truck vibrations, Then maybe 5-10 secs of calm, and then maybe 20 secs of whoopee. BBC had video of a guy in a hotel at Dulles airport knocked to the floor. Apparently, at the epicenter whoopee lasted about a minute.
Fantastic reporting Count, glad you're all ok. Are there any more predictions for the area in the near future?
Count Bobulescu
24-08-2011, 05:51 PM
Thx, nothing expected except maybe a few more aftershocks.
Heard on radio today. Show presenter in DC was speaking with guest in NYC studio yesterday, DC felt the quake about a minute before NYC. That’s 250 miles a minute. A tsunami is 500 miles an hour.
Also, several animals at Washington Zoo were seen to become became agitated about 15 minutes to 3 seconds before anyone felt the quake. Lemurs emitted a danger call. Apes and Elephants all ran to higher ground. Flamingos huddled together. They reacted as they normally would to a predator. Apparently they can feel/hear pre waves.
Older stone buildings are more vulnerable than newer wooden framed ones. The Washington Monument is closed indefinitely for checks. Now it’s on to Hurricane Irene just upgraded to category 3, expected here over the weekend. Katrina was highest rated cat 5.
Zoo Press Release.
http://ht.ly/6bzJA
C. Flower
24-08-2011, 05:55 PM
Delighted you are OK, Count B. and hope that you relished the interesting experience.
jinnyjoe
24-08-2011, 06:02 PM
Thx, nothing expected except maybe a few more aftershocks.
Heard on radio today. Show presenter in DC was speaking with guest in NYC studio yesterday, DC felt the quake about a minute before NYC. That’s 250 miles a minute. A tsunami is 500 miles an hour.
Also, several animals at Washington Zoo were seen to become became agitated about 15 minutes to 3 seconds before anyone felt the quake. Lemurs emitted a danger call. Apes and Elephants all ran to higher ground. Flamingos huddled together. They reacted as they normally would to a predator. Apparently they can feel/hear pre waves.
Older stone buildings are more vulnerable than newer wooden framed ones. The Washington Monument is closed indefinitely for checks. Now it’s on to Hurricane Irene just upgraded to category 3, expected here over the weekend. Katrina was highest rated cat 5.
Zoo Press Release.
http://ht.ly/6bzJA
yes I've heard it said before about animals sensing imminent danger before humans, we'd do well to heed them. Wonder how the household pets i.e. dogs etc. were reacting before the event.
C. Flower
24-08-2011, 08:35 PM
Vanu Atu, The East Coast, US, and now northern Peru -
http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/strong-earthquake-hits-peru-jungle-517758.html
Count Bobulescu
25-08-2011, 04:50 AM
Laurel wreath for first press release spotted blaming Barack 'Whoooooseyynnn' Obama.
Captain, you owe me a pint and a packet of crisps (sour cream or barbecue only thx). I don't smoke, but I'll take a packet of fags as well (Major).
Less than four hours after the event.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/earthquake-its-obamas-fault/2011/08/23/gIQA8ApcZJ_blog.html
morticia
25-08-2011, 05:58 AM
Poor Obama. He really is an endangered species.
morticia
25-08-2011, 06:17 AM
http://www.irishweatheronline.com/news/earth-science/geology/earthquake-geology/ancient-fault-line-triggered-virginia-earthquake/33326.html
More on the geology behind the US quake.
More sinisterly, the Canary island of El Hierro has been experiencing hundreds of mini earthquakes and it now looks as if it is inflating. Previous eruptions may have been tsunamigenic, but the caldera is now part of a collapsed flank (probably not too far to slide if any bits do fall off in an eruption?) To be watched carefully.
http://www.irishweatheronline.com/news/earth-science/geology/earthquake-geology/el-hierro-earthquake-count-exceeds-4200/33542.html
jinnyjoe
25-08-2011, 01:39 PM
I see three more in US region today Count, a 4.5 in Virgina, that near you?
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.php
Count Bobulescu
26-08-2011, 04:37 AM
I see three more in US region today Count, a 4.5 in Virgina, that near you?
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.php
The 4.5 was considered an aftershock, felt more like very very heavy truck vibrations. Not sure, but I think aftershocks don’t travel as far as the main event
The wave for the 5.8 was traveling at about 15,000 MPH Spacecraft speed.
Alaska being targetted by the tectonic plate vigilantes now
Magnitude 7.1 quake strikes South East of Alaska – USGS
http://www.forexlive.com/blog/2011/09/02/magnitude-7-1-quake-strikes-south-east-of-alaska-usgs/
TotalMayhem
02-09-2011, 11:48 AM
Alaska being targetted by the tectonic plate vigilantes now
Uh oh, dem are even worse than "freedom-hating radical Islamic Muslim extremists".
C. Flower
02-09-2011, 12:03 PM
Tsunami warning seems to be cancelled.
http://wcatwc.arh.noaa.gov/
morticia
02-09-2011, 08:15 PM
Tambora rumbling (third post down), along with Santorini and Popocatepetl......Etna also erupting
http://bigthink.com/blogs/eruptions
morticia
03-09-2011, 05:51 AM
http://www.irishweatheronline.com/news/earth-science/geology/volcano/rising-activity-detected-at-mount-tambora-volcano-in-indonesia/36062.html
More on Tambora, which exploded with a VEI7 eruption in 1815, causing the "year without a summer" in Europe. However, recent eruptions have been around a VEI2, so people don't seem too panicked, but I suppose one never knows.
Indonesia getting rattled
A strong earthquake struck Northern Sumatra in western Indonesia on early Tuesday morning, seismologists said, but there was no immediate word about damage or casualties. No tsunami alert was issued.
The 6.7-magnitude earthquake at 12.55 a.m. local time (1755 GMT Monday) was centered on land about 100 kilometers (62 miles) southwest of Medan, the country's fourth largest city which serves as the capital of North Sumatra province. It struck about 78 kilometers (48 miles) deep, making it a shallow earthquake, according to Indonesia's seismological agency (BMKG).
http://channel6newsonline.com/2011/09/update-1-strong-earthquake-strikes-western-indonesia-no-word-on-casualties/
Count Bobulescu
08-09-2011, 09:27 PM
US earthquake exceeded nuclear plant’s design.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/industries/nrc-says-eastern-quake-shook-ground-harder-than-virginia-nuclear-plant-designed-to-withstand/2011/09/08/gIQARWZbCK_story.html?hpid=z3
getting closer
NIJMEGEN (BNO NEWS) -- A small but unusual earthquake struck the eastern part of the Netherlands on Thursday evening, seismologists and witnesses said, but there were no immediate reports of damage or casualties.
The 4.6-magnitude earthquake at 9.02 p.m. local time was centered about 10 miles (17 kilometers) southeast of Nijmegen, a city in the east of the Netherlands, near the German border. It struck about 6.2 miles (10 kilometers) deep, making it a shallow earthquake, according to the European-Mediterranean Seismological Center.
http://channel6newsonline.com/2011/09/small-earthquake-rattles-the-netherlands-german-border/
Ah Well
09-09-2011, 08:38 PM
An earthquake with a magnitude of 6.7 has struck off the coast of British Colombia in Canada, scientists have said.
Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/quake-shakes-canada-519951.html#ixzz1XUQvbhJF
C. Flower
09-09-2011, 10:08 PM
An earthquake with a magnitude of 6.7 has struck off the coast of British Colombia in Canada, scientists have said.
Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/quake-shakes-canada-519951.html#ixzz1XUQvbhJF
A deep one, fortunately. No tsunami warning.
C. Flower
14-09-2011, 12:48 PM
Thirty three cool photographs of erupting volcanoes viewed from space.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthpicturegalleries/8744322/Erupting-volcanoes-photographed-from-space.html
jinnyjoe
14-09-2011, 07:31 PM
Just seen this quake prediction on Twitter, Count B, any truth in it do you think? I know the Elenin enthusiasts are predicting alot of earthquake action over the next two weeks.
EARTHQUAKE WARNING; 6.6 likely - risk of 7.1+ earthquake. Pine Valley, Ocotillo, Borrego Springs, Salton Sea * http://www.quakeprediction.com/
Read more about Elenin Comet here http://alamongordo.com/
jinnyjoe
15-09-2011, 05:58 PM
Wowzer a quake 728 miles from the Cork coast this morning, a shallow one by all accounts measuring 4.4 on richter scale, but a bit close for comfort.:eek:
http://www.irishweatheronline.com/news/earth-science/geology/earthquake-geology/4-4-magnitude-earthquake-strikes-the-north-atlantic-ocean/37812.html
C. Flower
15-09-2011, 07:13 PM
Wowzer a quake 728 miles from the Cork coast this morning, a shallow one by all accounts measuring 4.4 on richter scale, but a bit close for comfort.:eek:
http://www.irishweatheronline.com/news/earth-science/geology/earthquake-geology/4-4-magnitude-earthquake-strikes-the-north-atlantic-ocean/37812.html
Good heavens ! Any tsunami warning ?
Ah Well
15-09-2011, 07:19 PM
Wowzer a quake 728 miles from the Cork coast this morning, a shallow one by all accounts measuring 4.4 on richter scale, but a bit close for comfort.:eek:
http://www.irishweatheronline.com/news/earth-science/geology/earthquake-geology/4-4-magnitude-earthquake-strikes-the-north-atlantic-ocean/37812.html
Cumbre Vieja (Volcanic Ridge on La Palma, Canaries) springs to mind .. if the western flank of that collapses (and not beyond the bounds of possibility) then you may be looking at a mega tsunami with us in the firing line
morticia
16-09-2011, 09:37 PM
Cumbre Vieja (Volcanic Ridge on La Palma, Canaries) springs to mind .. if the western flank of that collapses (and not beyond the bounds of possibility) then you may be looking at a mega tsunami with us in the firing line
There's a bit of dispute about that one. Worst hit would be the coast of the US (tsunami travels straight across, worst estimate 100M). It would also curve back to hit us (worst impact on the south and southwest coasts), but estimates are at about 25M (still enough to submerge most of Cork/Waterford etc). The East coast would be much more sheltered. But in any case, some of the seismologists and geologists are disputing that it would all slide in one go, instantaneously. If the flank gave way more gradually, the impact would be a lot less.
The island of El Hierro has had thousands of mini-quakes in the last few months and weeks and they are worried about an eruption there. However, landslips have already occurred on that island, so the impact may be a lot lower.
Count Bobulescu
27-09-2011, 04:17 AM
Three minutes of silent video taken from a security camera inside the Washington Monument on the day of the east coast earthquake. I was 20 miles north at the time and don’t recall it lasting for anything like 3 minutes. More like one minute.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/washington-monuments-elevator-damaged-in-earthquake/2011/09/26/gIQA55wazK_story.html?hpid=z2
C. Flower
23-10-2011, 12:30 PM
Earthquake in Van, in Turkey. I'm told it's a very nice, modern town, but there has still been a tall building collapse.
A powerful earthquake has collapsed some buildings in the centre of eastern Turkish city of Van, according to the country’s state-run news agency.
The Anatolia news agency said rescue workers are trying to reach people believed to be trapped under the wreckage of a seven-story building in Van, close to the Iranian border.
The earthquake with a preliminary magnitude of 7.3 struck eastern Turkey on today, the US Geological Survey said.
Turkey’s Kandilli observatory gave it a preliminary magnitude of 6.6.
Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/buildings-collapse-after-earthquake-in-turkey-525504.html#ixzz1bbj9vwiz
C. Flower
23-10-2011, 01:53 PM
Seems it was a bad one, with a number of buildings down and a lot of people killed.
http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/many-dead-in-turkey-earthquake-525512.html
yehbut_nobut
07-11-2011, 06:30 PM
Seems like we could be about to get a new Canary Island,
El Hierro volcano: eruption moves towards ocean surface (http://www.volcanodiscovery.com/view_news/2435/El-Hierro-volcano-Canary-Islands-Spain-eruption-moves-towards-ocean-surface.html)
The submarine eruption south of El Hierro Island is getting closer to the surface and approaching the so-called Surtseyan stage (named after the 1963 eruption and birth of Surtsey Island south of Iceland).
El-Hierro Eruption 2011/11/04 - YouTube
(Great Video, but sound is dreadful - turn your speakers down!)
fluffybiscuits
07-11-2011, 07:21 PM
Seems like we could be about to get a new Canary Island,
El Hierro volcano: eruption moves towards ocean surface (http://www.volcanodiscovery.com/view_news/2435/El-Hierro-volcano-Canary-Islands-Spain-eruption-moves-towards-ocean-surface.html)
El-Hierro Eruption 2011/11/04 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39rJ5TR02G8)
(Great Video, but sound is dreadful - turn your speakers down!)
Think it will be the new destination for party goers in twenty years?;)
yehbut_nobut
07-11-2011, 07:39 PM
Think it will be the new destination for party goers in twenty years?;)
hahah- unlikely. Surtsey in Iceland rose from the sea 1963-1967, and is still closed to all except research scientists.
Any new island will no doubt be a UNESCO heritage site.
yehbut_nobut
08-11-2011, 09:10 PM
It's getting pretty violent - expect to see more news reports over the coming weeks
El Hierro volcano (Canary Islands, Spain): eruption expected to breach the surface soon (http://www.volcanodiscovery.com/view_news/2438/El-Hierro-volcano-Canary-Islands-Spain-eruption-expected-to-breach-the-surface-soon.html)
EXPLOSION FREATOMAGMATICA EN LA ISLA DE EL HIERRO 08-11-11 - YouTube
This bit is scary (Google translation, of an interview with one of Spain's most respected geologists)
“El Hierro could emerge a vertical eruptive column of a few kilometers of height”
Seismic activity in El Hierro, far from narrowing, appears to go further with the passage of days. This past weekend has been especially busy in this regard. The emergence of magma from the depths off the coast of La Restinga has become almost a recurring event.
“Since Saturday afternoon, magma seeks to leave the area of La Restinga.” “Apparently, this magma has two compositions, such as which I analysed, and a large explosive”, he explains to LaVanguardia.com Sunday Gimeno, Professor in the Department of geochemistry, Petrology and geological prospecting, Faculty of geology, University of Barcelona.
“Now also are getting some samples of a more red color that would be to look at.” In principle, without are reddish, it is no longer a rhyolite (the most explosive material). “It may be a mixture of the two compositions, but unless they do not analyze it will not know,” he added.
On the basis of the analysis carried out on the first magma appeared off the coast of La Restiga, Gimeno does not rule out that the volcanic eruption of El Hierro end leading to a phenomenon of major entity: “If I am correct, there could be a vertical eruptive column of about few kilometres in height that would expel numerous pyroclastic”.http://www.jonfr.com/volcano/?p=1763
morticia
08-11-2011, 09:13 PM
another walk in the pyroclastic park, huh?? This one likely to bother Mr O'Leary?
yehbut_nobut
08-11-2011, 09:16 PM
another walk in the pyroclastic park, huh?? This one likely to bother Mr O'Leary?
heehee :D
Some stunning photos here http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-74922.html
yehbut_nobut
30-12-2011, 10:13 AM
A new island was formed in the Red Sea in the last few days.http://www.ouramazingplanet.com/images/i/3778/i02/red-sea-new-island-111228.jpg?1325095476
And look - it's right beside "Rugged Island"!!! Please please please can we start a petition to name it "Craggy Island"?!!
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/29/eruption-creates-new-island-in-red-sea/
C. Flower
10-01-2012, 10:46 PM
Rugged Island looks like a shoe.
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There has been a 7+ earthquake off Aceh, Indonesia, and there is a tsunami warning.
http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/tsunami-alert-after-indonesia-quake-535360.html
Kitty O'Shea
13-01-2012, 08:00 PM
Thranduil's post is interesting, but the sea level change I believe is mainly due to the expansion of the water as it gets warmer. Sea temperatures worldwide in 2009 were on average highest "since records began", whenever that was.
Estouxim, I have also felt that we have had a lot of earthquakes over the last year or so, and logged them on a thread on Machine Nation, then Tok! and now here. I have read that some are cyclical and maybe expected to be very active every 120 years or so. There are little oscillations of the planet - maybe they have an effect?
I was fascinated to see that the Chilean earthquake had an effect on the length of the day (however infinitisal) and gave the entire planet a little jolt along its regular journey.
I understand the questioning as to whether there could be some human interention in this. In the case of Haiti, where the earthquake was so close to the surface and so close to the city, the question came up in my mind. But Haiti, like all of the earthquakes, took place on a known fault line where earthquakes are expected.
I would like to see some kind of timeline of earthquakes and their intensity over the last couple of hundred years, but it seems highly unlikely that such data exists.
The planet is not an inert thing, and while it has regular habits, some of these habits are violent, sudden and difficult to predict. What we can do is prepare for some of them. In earthquake zones the type of construction used has an enormous effect on the death rate if a serious earthquake occurs.
In answer to Fraxinus' question, Ibis said that Ireland's fault line has long ago sealed up, but I have heard geologists say that Ireland is moving slowly (Mary Harney must be pleased) towards the United States. The earth's crust is relatively very thin and its inside very hot and volatile, so i suppose the whole thing moves around to some extent.
There was an interesting thread also recently at Machine Nation from Evotingmachine, discussing "why the centre of the earth is still hot". The answer is fascinating and complex and I'll link it here some time.
That's interesting. I was taught that the mid Atlantic ridge (that Iceland sits on) is being pulled apart (which is what is happening to Iceland). Eventually Ireland and UK ends up where Norway is now (ok in 500billion yrs).
C. Flower
13-01-2012, 08:08 PM
"Why is the centre of the earth still hot"
Apparently, this is a warmly disputed topic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geothermal_(geology)
http://www.physorg.com/news62952904.html
http://www.physlink.com/News/121103PotassiumCore.cfm
http://www.newscientist.com/article....mg18725103.700
Of course, there are minority opinions.
http://www.nov55.com/heat.html
Ah Well
16-01-2012, 09:16 AM
One to watch perhaps. In this case it's a Volcano in the US.
In Oregon, they plan to pump 24 million gallons of water into Newberry Volcano, in a geothermal energy project to see if the generation of electricity is viable. The US Gov, Google and investors between them are putting $43 Million into the project.
Newberry Volcano is held to be dormant. However, the US Dept of Agriculture's Site states it to be seismically and geothermally active. Geologists believe it to sit over a magma body 2 to 5 kilometres deep
http://www.fs.usda.gov/wps/portal/fsinternet/!ut/p/c5/04_SB8K8xLLM9MSSzPy8xBz9CP0os3gDfxMDT8MwRydLA1cj72 DTgBAjAwgAykeaxcN4jhYG_h4eYX5hPgYwefy6w0H24dcPNgEH cDTQ9_PIz03VL8iNMMgycVQEAObEnGA!/dl3/d3/L2dJQSEvUUt3QS9ZQnZ3LzZfMjAwMDAwMDBBODBPSEhWTjJNMD AwMDAwMDA!/?navtype=&cid=fsbdev3_035878&navid=100000000000000&pnavid=&ss=110601&position=Not%20Yet%20Determined.Html&ttype=detail&pname=Deschutes
It has not erupted in approx 1500 years, however over it's lifespan it has had a lot of volcanic activity. The volcano is approx 20 miles in diameter, with a large oval-shaped caldera containing two lakes. A deep gash in the northern wall of the caldera, known as "the Fissure", is the end of a 29-mile series of fractures called the Northwest Rift Zone.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newberry_Volcano
Pumping water into a Volcano like this will certainly cause at least one thing and that's earthquakes. The belief is that a major earthquake is unlikely with "no significant fault lines" and that it is far enough from populated areas to prevent property damage.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2086985/Newberry-Volcano-Engineers-pour-24-million-gallons-water-Oregon-volcano-create-electricity.html#ixzz1jcAyumLT
Let's hope a few tremors is all it will produce. One wonders if messing with nature on occasions is a good idea.
Quake in Hawaii. No tsunami threat
http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/world-news/quake-shakes-hawaiis-big-island-2996678.html
Kitty O'Shea
23-01-2012, 10:48 AM
One to watch perhaps. In this case it's a Volcano in the US.
In Oregon, they plan to pump 24 million gallons of water into Newberry Volcano, in a geothermal energy project to see if the generation of electricity is viable. The US Gov, Google and investors between them are putting $43 Million into the project.
Newberry Volcano is held to be dormant. However, the US Dept of Agriculture's Site states it to be seismically and geothermally active. Geologists believe it to sit over a magma body 2 to 5 kilometres deep
http://www.fs.usda.gov/wps/portal/fsinternet/!ut/p/c5/04_SB8K8xLLM9MSSzPy8xBz9CP0os3gDfxMDT8MwRydLA1cj72 DTgBAjAwgAykeaxcN4jhYG_h4eYX5hPgYwefy6w0H24dcPNgEH cDTQ9_PIz03VL8iNMMgycVQEAObEnGA!/dl3/d3/L2dJQSEvUUt3QS9ZQnZ3LzZfMjAwMDAwMDBBODBPSEhWTjJNMD AwMDAwMDA!/?navtype=&cid=fsbdev3_035878&navid=100000000000000&pnavid=&ss=110601&position=Not%20Yet%20Determined.Html&ttype=detail&pname=Deschutes
It has not erupted in approx 1500 years, however over it's lifespan it has had a lot of volcanic activity. The volcano is approx 20 miles in diameter, with a large oval-shaped caldera containing two lakes. A deep gash in the northern wall of the caldera, known as "the Fissure", is the end of a 29-mile series of fractures called the Northwest Rift Zone.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newberry_Volcano
Pumping water into a Volcano like this will certainly cause at least one thing and that's earthquakes. The belief is that a major earthquake is unlikely with "no significant fault lines" and that it is far enough from populated areas to prevent property damage.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2086985/Newberry-Volcano-Engineers-pour-24-million-gallons-water-Oregon-volcano-create-electricity.html#ixzz1jcAyumLT
Let's hope a few tremors is all it will produce. One wonders if messing with nature on occasions is a good idea.
thanks for posting this. Read the articles and personally find this idea somewhat disturbing. I, too, think that this level of meddling in volcanoes is asking for trouble.
fluffybiscuits
23-01-2012, 10:26 PM
There is a 70 per cent chance that Tokyo could be hit by a major quake in the next thirty years. The amount of tremors has increased five fold over the last few years. But sure look at the location, its in a hugely seismic active area
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/16681136
C. Flower
26-01-2012, 10:16 AM
2.2 earthquake in Donegal.
Tea cups rattling in Buncrana.
http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/minor-earthquake-recorded-in-donegal-537345.html
Ogiol
26-01-2012, 12:49 PM
no tea cups rattling at 1.10 AM!!!!!!!! still my bro felt it as he is a vampire!
Im keeping an eye out for eilín dunne who's on her way up for bout 3pm!! (i'd certainly shake her world ;) Exciting stuff up in the north north west! Free lights displays and earthquakes to boot!!
Bet fáilte ireland are ragin they left us out of their tourism fold (and people wonder why we hate partitionists). Neither west nor the best they say. Well just look up and then start movin with the flow I tell them!!!
fluffybiscuits
26-01-2012, 02:12 PM
2.2 earthquake in Donegal.
Tea cups rattling in Buncrana.
http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/minor-earthquake-recorded-in-donegal-537345.html
It caused a millon quids worth of improvements to Bundoran..
While you're all ''feeling the Earth mover under your feet.'' Has Lightening struck South of Ireland today yet? Be interested to know what the weather is like in Cork today.
Ah Well
26-01-2012, 08:28 PM
While you're all ''feeling the Earth mover under your feet.'' Has Lightening struck South of Ireland today yet? Be interested to know what the weather is like in Cork today.
Nope ... not yet anyway :) - lovely sunny day with a bit of a chill factor and odd shower or two
Kid Ryder
04-03-2012, 05:38 PM
This isn't an earthquake or a volcano, it hasn't happened yet, it may not happen, but there's a 60m-sized asteroid called 2012 DA14 which may strike Earth in 11 months time - Blast it or paint it: Asteroid to threaten Earth in 2013 - RT.com (http://rt.com/news/paint-asteroid-earth-nasa-767/)
threat from the skies tomorrow morning
A strong solar storm is expected to hit Earth shortly, and experts warn it could disrupt power grids, satellite navigations systems and plane routes.
The storm - the largest in five years - will unleash a torrent of charged particles between 06:00 GMT and 10:00 GMT, US weather specialists say.
They say it was triggered by a pair of massive solar flares earlier this week.
The charged particles are expected to hit Earth at 4,000,000 mph (6,400,000 km/h), and Noaa predicts the storm will last until Friday morning.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17295337
Ah Well
07-03-2012, 11:41 PM
threat from the skies tomorrow morning
Ahhhh ....................... someone ring Helen
http://www.politicalworld.org/showthread.php?t=10871
;)
Ahhhh ....................... someone ring Helen
http://www.politicalworld.org/showthread.php?t=10871
;)
what's that they say about a stopped watch?
Ah Well
07-03-2012, 11:46 PM
what's that they say about a stopped watch?
:)
It might allow for some very nice sky effects to be viewed tho, like
http://www.irishtimes.com/blogs/gallery/2012/01/24/the-northern-lights-in-ireland/
Andrew49
15-03-2012, 08:25 AM
2.2 earthquake in Donegal.
Tea cups rattling in Buncrana.
http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/minor-earthquake-recorded-in-donegal-537345.html
Seems to be a regular occurrence in Donegal - There have been eight minor earthquakes recorded in this region of Donegal.
Ah Well
15-03-2012, 08:37 AM
Seems to be a regular occurrence in Donegal - There have been eight minor earthquakes recorded in this region of Donegal.
Fracking by stealth? ;)
Andrew49
15-03-2012, 12:14 PM
Fracking by stealth? ;)
Fianna Fail heartland is cracking and crumbling ....
Count Bobulescu
11-04-2012, 09:35 AM
Indonesia issues tsunami warning after 8.9 magnitude quake strikes off west coast (http://link.email.washingtonpost.com/r/C7I8XW/EWH6WY/Y6MQWR/5TQTKU/C5I4PB/T3/h?a=http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/indonesia-issues-tsunami-warning-after-89-magnitude-quake-strikes-off-west-coast/2012/04/11/gIQA1fbv9S_story.html)
Indonesia has issued a tsunami warning after a quake with a preliminary magnitude of 8.9 hit waters off westernmost Aceh province, AP reports.
The U.S. Geological Survey said Wednesday the quake was centered 20 miles beneath the ocean floor about 308 miles from the provincial capital of Banda Aceh.
Read more at:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/indonesia-issues-tsunami-warning-after-89-magnitude-quake-strikes-off-west-coast/2012/04/11/gIQA1fbv9S_story.html (http://link.email.washingtonpost.com/r/C7I8XW/EWH6WY/Y6MQWR/5TQTKU/5C5V9P/T3/h?a=http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/indonesia-issues-tsunami-warning-after-89-magnitude-quake-strikes-off-west-coast/2012/04/11/gIQA1fbv9S_story.html)
Ah Well
11-04-2012, 09:43 AM
http://ptwc.weather.gov/ptwc/?region=3&id=indian.TSUIOX.2012.04.11.0845
Etna erupting - Lots of Lava - Live Camera -
http://www.radiostudio7.it/webcam.asp?web=1&id=1
C. Flower
23-04-2012, 09:02 PM
Etna erupting - Lots of Lava - Live Camera -
http://www.radiostudio7.it/webcam.asp?web=1&id=1
Eurozone disintegrating ... :D
Count Bobulescu
20-05-2012, 10:17 AM
At least 4 dead in northern Italian quake. In the Dolomites I think.
Ephilant
20-05-2012, 11:07 AM
Local stations put the epicentre of this magnitude 6.0 quake in the town of Modena, about 40 km north of Bologna. It was also a "shallow" quake", meaning less than 15 km deep. It's depth is reported to be around 10km. The shallower the quake, the more damage it does.
The Italians and ourselves are quite used to these "shakers", but fun they are not. Everybody is very edgy for a good while, mainly because you never know what's next. Aftershocks hit the area for about 1h30 minutes after the main quake, with another bigger one around 5am, 1 hour after the main quake.
So far Italian stations report 4 dead and millions worth of damage.
Ephilant
22-05-2012, 04:25 PM
Reports are coming in of a 5.8 (some say 6) earthquake in Northern Greece and Bulgaria.
According to local stations the centre of the quake was in Pernik, outside the Bulgarian capital, and has caused extensive structural damage.
C. Flower
29-05-2012, 12:41 PM
Ten people have died in northern Italy in the second earthquake in a fortnight (6 on the richter scale).
Ephilant
05-06-2012, 07:39 AM
The Ionian island of Zakynthos has been hit by a 4.2 "shaker" this morning. So far, there are no reports of casualties and only minor damage.
Zakynthos gets more than it's fair share of quakes, and was one of the places hit hard by the 7.2 Ionian Earthquake in 1953 which caused untold damage. That quake lifted the whole island of Kefalonia.
Some officials say this quake is probably an after shock of an earlier quake further North.
C. Flower
06-06-2012, 06:35 PM
Anyone feel the 4 "shaker" off the coast of Mayo today?
No tsunami alert, fortunately.
Kid Ryder
06-06-2012, 08:23 PM
Anyone feel the 4 "shaker" off the coast of Mayo today?
No tsunami alert, fortunately.
That tremor had its epicentre just 15km from the Corrib gasfield wellhead. Currently, Shell are carrying out seismic testing at sea in that area, a fact not mentioned in Aoife Carr and Genevieve Carbery's article on the Irish Times website today. Communications and Natural Resources minister Pat Rabbitte has denied that the earthquake has anything to do with Corrib or Shell.
Earthquake strikes off Co Mayo (http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/0606/breaking22.html)
Kid Ryder
06-06-2012, 08:27 PM
This article from the Mayo Today website does mention the seismic testing, though...
Mayo earthquake was strongest ever in west of Ireland - Mayo Today (http://www.mayotoday.ie/index.php/browse-mayo-news-by-category/life-a-style/item/4825-mayo-earthquake-was-strongest-ever-in-west-of-ireland.html)
The Moth
06-06-2012, 10:28 PM
The Corrib seismic testing and the earthquake are too much of a coincidence. No chance of any analysis from the Irish Times or RTE. Minister Rabbitt should be shaking in his burrow tonight. If they can do this much damage before the gas arrives none of us will sleep easy in our beds when they are bringing it onshore. Maybe Pat Kenny who has always been very complacent about the gas roaring through pipes at the bottom of peoples gardens will put his engineering mind to work on this tomorrow thats if if RTE permits.
C. Flower
06-06-2012, 10:45 PM
That tremor had its epicentre just 15km from the Corrib gasfield wellhead. Currently, Shell are carrying out seismic testing at sea in that area, a fact not mentioned in Aoife Carr and Genevieve Carbery's article on the Irish Times website today. Communications and Natural Resources minister Pat Rabbitte has denied that the earthquake has anything to do with Corrib or Shell.
Earthquake strikes off Co Mayo (http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/0606/breaking22.html)
What is seismic testing, and how is it done ?
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/0606/breaking22.html
Tom Blake, director of the Irish National Seismic Network, said the region had never experienced an earthquake of this size before.
The largest earthquake recorded in Ireland occurred in 1984 when a magnitude 5.4 quake struck off the coast of Wales causing tremors and structural damage along the east coast of Ireland. Micro tremors were felt in parts of north Co Donegal in January and March near Buncrana.
Minister for Energy and Natural Resouces Pat Rabbitte said all evidence so far pointed to this being a “naturally occurring earthquake”. The epicentre was on a known fault line west of the Irish shelf, and was slightly larger than usual, he said.
Mr Rabbitte said there was “no link” to the Corrib gas field in Co Mayo, which was not in production.
British Geological Survey seismologist David Galloway said the quake would have been felt in many areas of Connacht.
“We have been getting reports of the windows rattling, that the shaking felt like a lorry or some vehicle smashing into the back of the house, which is typical of the felt reports of earthquakes,” he said. “One report described it as like a steamroller going down the road.”
Mr Galloway said he had not heard of any damage to property and was not expecting any. “It is quite a small earthquake, it is only significant for the fact that the UK or Ireland does not get the big earthquakes of Italy or Turkey,” he added.
The area where it happened today is in the middle of a plate which is moving further from America, far from a faultline and hence the force was not on the scale of areas where they collide, like California or Japan.
Kitty O'Shea
06-06-2012, 10:55 PM
That'd be the tectonics under the mid-Atlantic ridge shifting, it's the same one that is causing Iceland to split. The geophysical forces cause the rift between us the USA to grow wider apart.
yehbut_nobut
06-06-2012, 11:12 PM
What is seismic testing, and how is it done ?
I didn't know, either. But found this.
Seismic testing is an exploration technique used by oil and gas companies to explore the ocean for oil and gas sediments. In order to measure these sediments, large ships fire high-intensity air guns deep into the ocean. The sound energy from these air guns is potentially damaging to many species of marine life, including whales, dolphins and seals.
The blasts from seismic air gun can reach volumes of 260 decibels (anything above 180 decibels is believed to be harmful to marine mammals). The injuries that may be caused by sounds at this level include permanent hearing loss, disorientation, brain hemorrhaging and death.
The ocean is an acoustic environment, not a visual one and marine mammals rely heavily on sound for their survival. Without their heightened sense of hearing, marine mammals cannot find food, avoid predators or communicate with each other.
http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/en/news-and-blogs/news/the-dangers-of-seismic-testing/
It's from 2003 -I've no idea if standards have improved since then.
Ah Well
06-06-2012, 11:18 PM
Does the Kerry Hum tie in here anywhere ... or has it stopped as a result :cool:
Kid Ryder
06-06-2012, 11:26 PM
I didn't know, either. But found this.
http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/en/news-and-blogs/news/the-dangers-of-seismic-testing/
It's from 2003 -I've no idea if standards have improved since then.
No, that'd be about the current deal for seismic testing at sea. In the past, explosives would've been used, but since the late '80s (I think, I do remember a geologist at the university I went to about then giving a public talk about seismic testing methods back then, and that was about the time the 'detonation' method changed) air guns would be the preferred source of shock waves. Perhaps there may not be a link between the two, but as Rose Conway Walsh (Belmullet SF councillor) points out, earthquakes were not included in the various Environmental Impact Statements for the Corrib project, and it does raise concerns for the safety of the offshore pipeline if there is seabed movement subsequent to this tremor, or any other that could happen subsequent to it. Meanwhile, Comrade Bunny sees no evil, hears no evil, and does not admit verbally to any evil...
Kid Ryder
07-06-2012, 09:13 PM
Strangely enough, this article from the Irish Times website on May 31 mentions the seismic testing/surveying that the article yesterday (re earthquake) was so goddamn coy about: Sea survey may breach EU directive, says whale lobby (http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2012/0531/1224316989823.html)
The left hand knoweth not what the right hand doeth - my ar$e!
disability student
07-06-2012, 10:12 PM
Thought occured to me ... does Shell in Mayo have anything to do with it? Residents have complained re noises in the past couple of weeks??
Kid Ryder
07-06-2012, 10:46 PM
Thought occured to me ... does Shell in Mayo have anything to do with it? Residents have complained re noises in the past couple of weeks??
That's from the hydrotesting of the offshore part of the pipeline (laid 2009). That work commenced cynically on the Friday of the last bank holiday weekend so that Mayo Shell County Council wouldn't have to field complaints from Glengad residents until several days into the works programme. They also carried out an environmental noise survey on the works that Friday morning (so I'm told), before the testing gear was on full power so that a false and misleading result could be obtained to gull complainants and allay the complacent (and complicit, for the most part) Oireland Inc. meejia.
disability student
08-06-2012, 12:21 AM
Now there is a strange coincidence. If you go to http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/ you will find a list of recent earthquakes compiled by the USGS. If you click on the D Depth arrow you can sort the quakes by depth, starting with the shallowest at Princeton, Canada. The eleventh quake on the list, and also the strongest of these shallow quakes, is the Mayo quake, 94 km NW of Clifden. The interesting bit is the location of the other quakes. They are mostly all in areas of gas exploration or fracking: Alaska, Canada, California, Hawaii. A Coincidence of shallow earthquakes and gas exploration and fracking? Isn't just a coincidence???
The Moth
08-06-2012, 10:13 AM
Now there is a strange coincidence. If you go to http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/ you will find a list of recent earthquakes compiled by the USGS. If you click on the D Depth arrow you can sort the quakes by depth, starting with the shallowest at Princeton, Canada. The eleventh quake on the list, and also the strongest of these shallow quakes, is the Mayo quake, 94 km NW of Clifden. The interesting bit is the location of the other quakes. They are mostly all in areas of gas exploration or fracking: Alaska, Canada, California, Hawaii. A Coincidence of shallow earthquakes and gas exploration and fracking? Isn't just a coincidence???
I suppose there is no chance that any of our environmental quangos would look in to it. Whoever is brave enough to inquire will be written off as a craziac. A little tsunami heading for Castlebar may be what it will take.
Kid Ryder
08-06-2012, 12:28 PM
I suppose there is no chance that any of our environmental quangos would look in to it. Whoever is brave enough to inquire will be written off as a craziac. A little tsunami heading for Castlebar may be what it will take.
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Ephilant
10-06-2012, 03:26 PM
Reports are coming in of another earthquake, this time of the coast of Rodhes. Initial reports say it had a magnitude of 5.8 -6 on the Richter scale. So far, there are no reports of loss of life, but Anatolia News (Turkey) speaks of people being hospitalized.
the reports say that the quake was felt on Rhodes, Kos, Kastillorizo and the Trukish mainland. Anatolia News places the epicentre some 80 miles East of Rhodes and quite deep at nearly 40 km.
C. Flower
10-06-2012, 03:33 PM
Second one in the last month? Europe is on the move....
C. Flower
10-06-2012, 03:35 PM
Details here -
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usb000ac4h.php
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/30_35.gif
Ephilant
10-06-2012, 06:33 PM
The Turkish Institute for Seismology in Kandili puts the quake as a 6.1 R, making it quite a serious "shaker". 7 people are reported to have been taken to hospital with minor injuries. The institute also reported 2 after shocks of 6 and 4.9R. It also reports minor damage in the port of Izmir, the city of Antalya and the popular holdiay resort of Oludeniz.
Another quake was reported in Azerbijan, reaching 4.8R and being treated as a seperate incident.
Dr. FIVE
11-06-2012, 03:02 PM
So the Irish Times says the epicentre for Wednesday’s earthquake off Mayo was closer to an area licensed to Anthony O'Reilly's Providence Resources than to the Corrib gas field.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2012/0608/1224317501292.html
Chairman of Providence is former Fianna Fáil TD Brian Hillery, former chair at INM and also chairman of UniCredit Ireland at the time of Jonathan Sugarman's resignation. He is now governor of the Central Bank and Financial Services Authority which is responsible for the supervision of all financial institutions operating in Ireland...
Tornado in Donegal..
One of the biggest ever tornadoes recorded in Ireland struck yesterday morning.
The 700-metre-high twister hit Slieve Sneacht near Buncrana, Co Donegal, at about 10.30am yesterday.
The tornado, seen clearly on three-minute-long amateur videos, touched ground close to the mountain but did not cause serious damage.
Read more: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/republic-of-ireland/donegal-in-a-twist-as-700m-tornado-hits-ireland-16171153.html#ixzz1xYmqOBtC
Ephilant
16-06-2012, 02:35 PM
If there is one thing people here hate more than earthquakes, it's wild fires. Reports are coming in of a massive wild fire in the Keratea area of SouthEastern Attika with the fire brigade evacuating many houses, including a old folks home. Gale force winds are fanning the fire(s) which started just before noon. The use of fire fighting planes is not possible because of the winds which prevent the planes from loading water from the nearby sea.
People say they have been evacuated from their houses while the fires "flew" through their back gardens, destroying everything in their path.
The local fire fighters who are quite used to fighting wild fires say that this is the biggest and fastest spreading one in living memory.
Ephilant
28-06-2012, 06:45 PM
Reports are coming in on local stations of a 4.2 shaker hitting the island of Evia and being felt in parts of Attica as well. The reports don't mention any loss of life or damage.
Strong quake in Wellington
A strong earthquake struck off the west coast of New Zealand's North Island on Tuesday, shaking residents across a wide area and toppling goods from shelves but there were no immediate reports of major damage or injury.
The 7.0 magnitude quake was centered 170 km northwest of the capital Wellington at a depth of 230 km (147 miles), the national GeoNet website reported. The U.S. Geological Service earlier reported the tremor at a 6.2 magnitude. There was no tsunami warning issued.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/03/us-newzealand-quake-idUSBRE8620GT20120703
Ephilant
09-07-2012, 03:24 PM
A 5.5 quake has just hit 120 km SE of Rhodes island, a a depth of 10 km. Reports are still scanty, but so far no in juries or worthwile damage reported... Let's hope it stays that way.
Ephilant
18-07-2012, 12:09 PM
The areas around Patras and prefecture of Achaia are on fire. A wildfire erupted in the early hours of this morning, and after the intens heat of the last 10 days the fire has no problem in spreading through the bone dry area. Gale to storm force winds are fanning the flames, and fire fighters and the army are having serious problems trying to contain the fires.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5Z-4d0MAn8&feature=player_embedded
The university of Patras had to be evacuated, while staff in Patras General Hospital are preparing for an all out evacuation. The residents of 3 villages outside Patras have been ordered to leave immediately. The authorities do not rule out arson.
Ephilant
12-08-2012, 10:17 AM
Iran was hit by 2 major earthquakes early in the morning. Both quakes hit in the Tabriz area, measuring 6.3 and 6.4 respectively.
Initial reports mention over 250 dead and thousands injured. There are also reports of hundreds of villages cut off from the rest of Iran and it is expected that many. many more victims will be found there.
C. Flower
12-08-2012, 05:16 PM
Iran was hit by 2 major earthquakes early in the morning. Both quakes hit in the Tabriz area, measuring 6.3 and 6.4 respectively.
Initial reports mention over 250 dead and thousands injured. There are also reports of hundreds of villages cut off from the rest of Iran and it is expected that many. many more victims will be found there.
Very sad. Not the first time for them to suffer from this.
Earthquakes are a testing time for governments.
morticia
12-08-2012, 06:45 PM
Particularly testing if it happened anywhere the buried nuke facilities the Iranians definitely don't have 😉. For the sake of ordinary people, I hope they took care with those non-existent potential fukushimas.
fluffybiscuits
12-08-2012, 10:02 PM
Very sad. Not the first time for them to suffer from this.
Earthquakes are a testing time for governments.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0812/iran-earthquakes.html
Has risen to 300 people now.A lot of people are now living in makeshift houses or tents now and they need relief to come through fast.
There is some volcanic rock the size of Belgium floating around the Pacific
A huge cluster ‘raft’ of floating volcanic rocks covering an area almost the size of Belgium has been spotted drifting in the Pacific Ocean.
The gigantic cluster, made up of lightweight pumice expelled from an underwater volcano and spread over 26,000 sq kilometres, has been spotted drifting in the ocean by a military aircraft, about 1,000 kilometres off the coast of New Zealand.
A naval ship had to change direction to avoid the rocks, which were spread out over thousands of square miles.
Experts reckon the rocks were formed by lava released from an underwater volcano, the ‘Daily Mail’ reported.
http://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/science/article3757605.ece?homepage=true
Ephilant
31-08-2012, 01:44 PM
Reports are coming in of a huge earthquake near the Philipines. A 7.9 quake hit about 100 km East of Sulangan, and Tsunami warnings for both the Philipines and Indonesia are in force.
Ephilant
12-09-2012, 08:48 AM
Rather rude awakening this morning...The clock said 6.20, the ground shook.
5.4 on the scale, out in the sea it struck, just off Gavdos island. but we felt it alright. No injuries or damage reported so far...
C. Flower
12-09-2012, 09:13 AM
Rather rude awakening this morning...The clock said 6.20, the ground shook.
5.4 on the scale, out in the sea it struck, just off Gavdos island. but we felt it alright. No injuries or damage reported so far...
A pretty scary way to wake.
Ephilant
12-09-2012, 11:20 AM
You get used to it, kind of, but an hour or 2 later would have been nice. What really pisses me off is that it has killed my monitor, again. Second time this year. And no insurance company will cover these things.
Just installed a new one. Hopefully we will not get an aftershock...
Ephilant
22-09-2012, 01:45 PM
Greece got hit by no less than 6 earthquakes in the last 24 hours, ranging between 4 and 5.1 on the richter scale.
Yesterday morning we got it in the neck, or rather earth, at the more civil hour of 11.45 am, with a 4.9. A few hours earlier Aigio got rattled a bit a 6.40am with a 4 R.
Today, Cassos and Corinth were rudely awoken within 1 minute of each other with a 4R and a 4.9R respectively, while Kiriakion in the NE of the country got the 5.1R at 3.52am this morning. A few hours later, at 09.15am Conitsa in the NE of the country was treated to a 4.5R.
That is a lot of seismic activity in 1 area for such a short period (22 hours or so).
Ephilant
19-10-2012, 07:33 AM
Another rude awakening this morning. 4.6, just east of Sitia, but we felt it. There should be a law banning shakers before 10.00 am. At least let us have our frappe in peace, and wake up nicely.
Ephilant
22-10-2012, 12:49 PM
Madness knows no bounds!
6 seismologists and 1 government official have been charged with manslaughter for underestimating risks prior to the 2009 earthquake, which killed 309 people in the medieval town of L'Aquila. They will learn their fates when verdicts are handed down by a court later today.
According to the charges
The experts provided "an incomplete, inept, unsuitable and criminally mistaken" analysis, downplaying risks and reassuring residents, leaving them unprepared for the quake
The seven defendants are Enzo Boschi, who at the time was the head of Italy's national geophysics institute; Giulio Selvaggio, head of the INVV's national earthquake centre in Rome; and Franco Barberi of Rome's University
Three, Mauro Dolce, head of the Civil Protection's seismic risk office, Gian Michele Calvi, head of the European Centre for Training and Research in Earthquake Engineering (EUcentre); and Claudio Eva of the University of Genoa.
As well as being charged with manslaughter, the seven also face charges of reckless endangerment.
When it was pointed out during the trial that this trial should maybe be about non-compliance with existing building regulations (many houses collapsed during the 6.3 quake), the resulting silence and inaction was rather deafening...
Andrew49
22-10-2012, 03:53 PM
Madness knows no bounds!
6 seismologists and 1 government official have been charged with manslaughter for underestimating risks prior to the 2009 earthquake, which killed 309 people in the medieval town of L'Aquila. They will learn their fates when verdicts are handed down by a court later today.
According to the charges
The seven defendants are Enzo Boschi, who at the time was the head of Italy's national geophysics institute; Giulio Selvaggio, head of the INVV's national earthquake centre in Rome; and Franco Barberi of Rome's University
Three, Mauro Dolce, head of the Civil Protection's seismic risk office, Gian Michele Calvi, head of the European Centre for Training and Research in Earthquake Engineering (EUcentre); and Claudio Eva of the University of Genoa.
As well as being charged with manslaughter, the seven also face charges of reckless endangerment.
When it was pointed out during the trial that this trial should maybe be about non-compliance with existing building regulations (many houses collapsed during the 6.3 quake), the resulting silence and inaction was rather deafening...
An Italian court has convicted six scientists and a government official of manslaughter for failing to give adequate warning of a deadly earthquake which destroyed the central city of L'Aquila and killed more than 300 people in 2009.
Ephilant
22-10-2012, 04:01 PM
It gives a complete new meaning to government cutbacks. One way of ensuring not too many scientists will want to work for the Italian institute...
Andrew49
26-10-2012, 09:32 AM
Icelandic authorities warned people in the north of the island on Thursday to prepare for a possible big earthquake after the biggest tremors in the area for 20 years. The Civil Protection Department said in a statement that recent small quakes in an area under the sea about 20 km (12 miles) off the north of Iceland had prompted it to issue a warning to local people.
LINK (http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/10/25/uk-iceland-earthquake-idUKBRE89O18220121025)
fluffybiscuits
26-10-2012, 02:38 PM
Icelandic authorities warned people in the north of the island on Thursday to prepare for a possible big earthquake after the biggest tremors in the area for 20 years. The Civil Protection Department said in a statement that recent small quakes in an area under the sea about 20 km (12 miles) off the north of Iceland had prompted it to issue a warning to local people.
LINK (http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/10/25/uk-iceland-earthquake-idUKBRE89O18220121025)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akureyri
Town of Akureyri has a population of 17k and is in need of an emergency plan. Only mild shocks so far but its a sign of something bigger.
Dr. FIVE
28-10-2012, 02:36 AM
Earthquake off Canada's Pacific coast, tsunami warning gone out
Captain Con O'Sullivan
28-10-2012, 07:27 AM
There is a bit more to that Italian scientist story than meets the eye. Apparently they did have information like the Icelandic warning there and there is a law in Italy that states the warnings must be published.
I believe the scientists and some civil servants involved decided not to publish the warnings from the data as they are statutorily obliged to do and people were killed who might otherwise have survived if the procedures had been followed.
Hence the convictions. This has deliberately been misrepresented in the way many news organisations have chosen to cover the story for some reason. Dramatic headlines, probably.
Captain Con O'Sullivan
28-10-2012, 07:30 AM
It occurs to me that in that region (off the back of a personal dislike of such people) that if one was going to jail a scientist for not 'foreseeing' a natural disaster then you'd also have to jail all the local priests because they had failed to intercede with god in order to prevent the earthquake:)
Which would be interesting.
Ogiol
09-11-2012, 02:19 PM
Sad to see the irish media in its anglocentric buble didnt pick up on the recent earthqauake in Guatemala. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2012/nov/08/earthquake-guatemala-pictures)
Death toll rising to 100 now it seams. Poor guatemaltecans, my sympathy goes out to them.
fluffybiscuits
09-11-2012, 02:30 PM
Sad to see the irish media in its anglocentric buble didnt pick up on the recent earthqauake in Guatemala. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2012/nov/08/earthquake-guatemala-pictures)
Death toll rising to 100 now it seams. Poor guatemaltecans, my sympathy goes out to them.
+1
Hope things recover...
Ephilant
09-11-2012, 03:59 PM
It occurs to me that in that region (off the back of a personal dislike of such people) that if one was going to jail a scientist for not 'foreseeing' a natural disaster then you'd also have to jail all the local priests because they had failed to intercede with god in order to prevent the earthquake:)
Which would be interesting.
And all economists for not seeing a recession coming, and all bankers for not seeing a robbery coming (mind you, they are the biggest robbers so they would have to report themselves), and ministers for not seeing the effects of their insane decisions, and...
This is why the world is an open air assylum, managed by the inmates.
disability student
09-11-2012, 04:31 PM
And all economists for not seeing a recession coming, and all bankers for not seeing a robbery coming (mind you, they are the biggest robbers so they would have to report themselves), and ministers for not seeing the effects of their insane decisions, and...
This is why the world is an open air assylum, managed by the inmates.
Very good point there as they are still walking free:eek:
Ephilant
03-01-2013, 11:57 AM
First shaker of the year just after hitting this morning. No injuries or deaths. No reports of damage either. 4.1R, just a gentle reminder that it can always happen, at any time. I just wished it stopped doing it at those ungodly times early in the morning...
Ephilant
08-01-2013, 01:49 PM
Second one just after hitting. Not us this time, furhter East. A 5.8R hit in the Aegean, just south of the isle of Limnos, but was felt as far away as Athens. It's a friend in Athens who just told me. No reports of casualties or damage so far...
quake in Japan
Reuters India @ReutersIndia
USGS says quake in Hokkaido, Japan, was on land and a magnitude 6.9
fluffybiscuits
06-02-2013, 01:18 PM
http://www.wespeaknews.com/world/five-dead-as-quake-hits-solomon-islands-141178.html
Richter Scale 8.0 hits Solomon Islands.
Five people dead.
Tsunami warning issued
Count Bobulescu
25-03-2013, 10:28 PM
6.2 in Guatemala, no further info.
Kid Ryder
22-04-2013, 01:34 AM
Getting really slack, this thread. There was a magnitude 6.6 quake in Sichuan, China 8:02am Saturday morning local time (about 10pm Friday our time) that killed 200 people (est. so far) and has left 100,000+ homeless:
China earthquake: experience could not save those too slow or too small - the Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/apr/21/china-earthquake-sichuan-homeless-rescue)
No small earthquake, this, and worthy of inclusion on this thread. Are PW posters becoming jaded in the face of all these calamities?
C. Flower
22-04-2013, 09:32 AM
Thanks for posting.
Anyone in Ireland notice the 3.8 magnitude Earthquake in the Irish Sea last night?
Quote...Almost 100 people across Wales, England, and the Isle of Man say they felt tremors.
Meanwhile in Ireland, residents in Carlow, Kildare, Wicklow, Wexford and Dublin reported experiencing the earthquake.
A quake of that size could cause shakes to be felt up to 100km from the epicentre, the British Geological Survey (BGS) claim.
The geosciences centre reports people were woken from their sleep by "the moderate shaking strength of the earthquake, which had a trembling effect". unquote.
More here.....http://www.u.tv/News/Welsh-earthquake-shakes-Ireland/adf00a1e-6777-4457-b8c0-b0f79f8f653f
fluffybiscuits
29-05-2013, 02:29 PM
It did a millions quid worth of improvements to the Isle of Man....
I'll get my coat...
Seán Ryan
29-05-2013, 02:36 PM
Anyone in Ireland notice the 3.8 magnitude Earthquake in the Irish Sea last night?
Quote...Almost 100 people across Wales, England, and the Isle of Man say they felt tremors.
Meanwhile in Ireland, residents in Carlow, Kildare, Wicklow, Wexford and Dublin reported experiencing the earthquake.
A quake of that size could cause shakes to be felt up to 100km from the epicentre, the British Geological Survey (BGS) claim.
The geosciences centre reports people were woken from their sleep by "the moderate shaking strength of the earthquake, which had a trembling effect". unquote.
More here.....http://www.u.tv/News/Welsh-earthquake-shakes-Ireland/adf00a1e-6777-4457-b8c0-b0f79f8f653f
I was up and about. At 4.17am I felt everything start to shake, the door to my room went nuts, shaking up and down. The tremor lasted about 6 seconds.
Saoirse go Deo
29-05-2013, 02:45 PM
Felt nothing in Louth, and I was up and about around then. Dog was whining which is unusual for her to do, so I guess this could have been why.
Felt nothing in Louth, and I was up and about around then. Dog was whining which is unusual for her to do, so I guess this could have been why.
Oddly, the dogs kicked off in our park for no particular reason around the same time. I woke, so did the eldest lad. Wonder?
morticia
29-05-2013, 08:57 PM
Didn't notice anything in South Dublin but a few of the Boardies (see the Boards.ie weather thread) were reporting feeling it in Bray, Greystones and Wexford.
morticia
29-05-2013, 09:55 PM
Just to update this thread further, the Beeb reported earlier this week that the Icelandic authorities are putting more sensors on Hekla and Katla, to name but two, owing to worries about inflation and impendingly overdue eruptions. Project is co-funded by EU owing to airplane implications and ramifications. meanwhile, Easy Jet and others are working on ashcloud avoidance instrumentation.
Recent research suggests Katla may be capable of Mt Pinatubo-esque excesses. Meanwhile, remember the Laki Fissure?? Yep, blew in 1783, caused years of famine in NW Europe that culminated in the French Revolution, and killed a fifth of the Icelandic population?? Concerns exist now that it may have underground links to Hekla and or Katla. Info should still be on the Beeb's sci/environment section if anyone's into impending doomsday scenarios.
Also sad that the only thing inflating in Europe at the moment is a pair of grouchy volcanoes, known in Iceland as the Evil Sisters, or similar.
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