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5intheface
01-04-2010, 06:31 PM
Hard to know whether to put this in World History of Irish History.

Always found this an interesting and complicated topic but have never read a lot about it. The Chieftans/Ry Cooder album has put it back in my mind.

St Patrick's batallion was a unit of the Mexican Army made up largely of Irish and other Catholic deserters from the US Army during the Mexican-American War in the 1840s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Patrick's_Battalion

Anyone study or know anything above and beyond what the all knowing Wikipedia has to say.

Is there a definitive read I should look out for?

Dagger John
01-04-2010, 06:50 PM
Riley was from Clifden - why not get in touch with the local council and see what they know.

But on a side issue. We get constantly earbashed about the soldiers who fought for the British Empire in the First World War. Yet these Irish heroes and the wild geese from admiral Brown to Sarsfield are forgotten by the noice people.

Why not start Easter commemorations in every nation that the Irish died in?

Let us wear the Easter Lily in memory of them.

And let the money go to maintaining memorials for them and for those who have served the cause of Ireland.

5intheface
01-04-2010, 06:54 PM
But on a side issue. We get constantly earbashed about the soldiers who fought for the British Empire in the First World War. Yet these Irish heroes and the wild geese from admiral Brown to Sarsfield are forgotten by the noice people.

Had that exact conversation today. The very fact that I am asking for information on the San Patricios whilst knowing far more about the Irish in WWI proves the point.

Summerday Sands
01-04-2010, 06:58 PM
There was a film dealing with the subject, with Tom Berenger in the lead role.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Man%27s_Hero

The whole film is on youtube, but its overdubbed in Spanish!
YouTube- Batallón de San Patricio 1/12

5intheface
01-04-2010, 06:59 PM
There was a film dealing with the subject, with Tom Berenger in the lead role.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Man%27s_Hero

The whole film is on youtube, but its overdubbed in Spanish!
YouTube- Batallón de San Patricio 1/12 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X-Z1dfOrE8)

Thanks, I was aware there were a couple of films but haven't seen any of them.

RosaLuxembourg
01-04-2010, 07:01 PM
Thanked post.

C. Flower
01-04-2010, 08:23 PM
There was a poster by the name of Juan Reley on Tok. In fact, I think he may be here too...

Dagger John
02-04-2010, 01:23 AM
I tell ye what - the best source for this history is Irelands Own

Sam Lord
02-04-2010, 01:46 AM
To my knowledge this is the definitive work on the San Patricios

Miller, Robert Ryal. Shamrock and Sword, The Saint Patrick's Battalion in the US-Mexican War, Norman, Oklahoma; University of Okiahoma Press, 1989 ISBN 0806129646.

Lapsedmethodist
02-04-2010, 02:47 AM
Try some of these:-
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=batal%C3%B3n+de+san+patricio&hl=en&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2001

Fraxinus
02-04-2010, 10:52 PM
TG4 did a good documentary on the subject a couple of years ago.

Sidewinder
02-04-2010, 11:33 PM
The Wild Geese were also very influential in the Austro-Hungarian Empire (http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=3&ved=0CAsQFjAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fonline.uni-graz.at%2Fkfu_online%2Flv_tx.wbDisplaySemplanDoc%3 FpStpSplDsNr%3D615&rct=j&q=austro-hungary+irish+generals+wild+geese&ei=p222S-jEF6T20wTgwe0v&usg=AFQjCNGvuVSY2Yw9xVs87FObswbbsgwixQ) [10mb PDF] for hundreds of years, providing many leading Generals, diplomats, politicians etc including a Prime Minster Carlingford!

The bet down meeja would ratrher grovel to their London masters than mention any of this though.

sateliter
05-04-2010, 02:43 AM
Actually in Mexico we still rembember Batallon de San Patricio, they were true heroes and for us will be heroes forever. First sunday of every month irish pipes are played on the very place of 1847 Churubusco battle. In those days that place was outside of Mexico city but nowdays is into the city, even there is a subway station at walk distance. The name of the station is General Anaya, who was the chief commander of the mexican forces on that battle.
Here is a video of the irish pipes in Mexico city remembering irish heroes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTHT1n3hgVw&feature=related
Erin go bragh
Viva Mexico cabrones

Sam Lord
05-04-2010, 05:03 AM
Actually in Mexico we still rembember Batallon de San Patricio, they were true heroes and for us will be heroes forever. First sunday of every month irish pipes are played on the very place of 1847 Churubusco battle. In those days that place was outside of Mexico city but nowdays is into the city, even there is a subway station at walk distance. The name of the station is General Anaya, who was the chief commander of the mexican forces on that battle.
Here is a video of the irish pipes in Mexico city remembering irish heroes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTHT1n3hgVw&feature=related
Erin go bragh
Viva Mexico cabrones

Totally cool.

Thanks!