Houses of the Oireachtas Schedule & Live Streaming Link 8-9 March 2011

[C. Flower]

Houses of the Oireachtas Schedule



LINK TO LIVE STREAMING CHANNELS FOR DAIL, SENATE AND COMMITTEE ROOMS (http://www.oireachtas.ie/ViewDoc.asp?fn=/documents/livewebcast/Web-Live.htm)


This is the schedule of the Houses ofthe Oireachtas for the coming week.


TUESDAY 8 MARCH

Seanad Éireann

2.30pm

- Order of Business

- Tributes to former Member Senator Willie Farrell

- Construction Contracts Bill 2010 – Committee and Remaining Stages


WEDNESDAY 9 MARCH

Dáil Éireann

12 noon - Commencement of the first sitting of the 31st Dáil

[C. Flower]

Procedure for the first session -

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/0308/1224291590546.html


OUTGOING MINISTER for Finance Brian Lenihan will take the place of Taoiseach Brian Cowen at the head of the Government benches when Dáil proceedings begin at noon tomorrow.Mr Cowen, having retired from politics, is no longer a TD and Mr Lenihan will be the most senior member of the outgoing Government in attendance.


Sinn Féin and the Independent TDs are to sit with Fianna Fáil on the Government benches for the early part of the proceedings, until the expected election of Fine Gael leader Enda Kenny as taoiseach.


The sitting begins with Clerk of the Dáil Kieran Coughlan reading the proclamation convening Dáil Éireann and announcing the names and constituencies of all the members elected, as well as the returning officers for each constituency.
The first business of the new Dáil is to elect a ceann comhairle, who makes a brief introductory statement followed by a declaration of impartiality before taking the chair.


Various names have been linked to this position, including Fine Gael’s Seán Barrett and Brendan Howlin and Ruairí Quinn of Labour.
This part of the business should be completed by about 1pm. The election of a new taoiseach then follows and each party or “coalition of parties” may nominate a candidate for the office.
Following the expected election of the Fine Gael leader with the support of TDs from his own party and Labour, there will be statements from himself and other leaders.


This is expected to conclude about 1.30pm and the House will then be suspended for two hours while Mr Kenny goes to Áras an Uachtaráin to receive his seal of office from President Mary McAleese. The Dáil resumes on his return and he will move to the government side of the House, accompanied by the proposed members of his new cabinet. The new taoiseach proposes the list of ministerial nominees to the House and this is followed by a time-limited debate and a vote.
After the expected approval of the new ministers, they adjourn to Áras an Uachtaráin, where the President formally appoints them and presents them with their seals of office.


The state of the parties after the election is: Fine Gael 76; Labour 37; Fianna Fáil 20; Sinn Féin 14 and Independents/Others 19.
Given the dramatic alteration in party strengths, seating arrangements in the House have been subjected to a new configuration.
Fine Gael, on its own, will occupy the sections of the Dáil chamber where Fianna Fáil and the Green Party were formerly seated.


Labour will remain in the middle section, where the party has sat for the last 14 years, but such is the strength of the party now that two of its TDs will sit in the back row of the main Opposition benches.


Fianna Fáil and Sinn Féin will share the front row of the main Opposition benches, with Fianna Fáil leader Micheál Martin taking the seat previously occupied by Mr Kenny.


The Independent TDs will occupy the so-called “bullpen” to the left of the Fianna Fáil leader, consisting of four rows with three seats each, and the remainder will sit in the back row of the main Opposition section.


On the question of deputies’ attire, the draft code of parliamentary standards approved by the Committee on Procedures and Privileges in 2003 states that: “Members should dress in a manner that reflects the dignity of the House.”


Moves are under way among Independent and United Left Alliance members to form a technical group with equivalent standing to a political party and a meeting is to take place at 2pm this afternoon with Finian McGrath TD in the chair.

[ang]

Apparently (after tomorrow) the Dail won't sit again until the middle of next week ??

I thought we were in crisis and that the new Government would have to hit the ground running with all hands on deck.

[C. Flower]

Apparently (after tomorrow) the Dail won't sit again until the middle of next week ??

I thought we were in crisis and that the new Government would have to hit the ground running with all hands on deck.

They'll be too busy rearranging the deckchairs the Titanic their new office furniture.

[C. Flower]

Anyone going to Leinster House today ?

I have a cold, so will be watching the live stream here.

It should be interesting viewing, if only from the point of view of body language.

[MauriceColgan]

Thanks for the headsup. I will watch it. If my wife Maureen will let me. She controls the remote!

[Baron von Biffo]

The seals of office thing is very strange. Kenny and the ministers will be given the seals by McAleese, they will pose for photos with them and then they're snapped away and locked up in the Aras until next time. Ministers don't get to take them away - they don't even get a replica.

[C. Flower]

Thanks for the headsup. I will watch it. If my wife Maureen will let me. She controls the remote!

You can watch it here -

LINK TO LIVE STREAMING CHANNELS FOR DAIL, SENATE AND COMMITTEE ROOMS (http://www.oireachtas.ie/ViewDoc.asp?fn=/documents/livewebcast/Web-Live.htm)

[C. Flower]

Up and running.

[Baron von Biffo]

Sulky look on Lenihans face :D

[C. Flower]

Sean Barrett nominated as Ceann Comhairle.

[Dr. FIVE]

Sly enough giving the CC to DL.
Some battle next time round.

[Baron von Biffo]

"I do solemnly declare..." Not swear? - Is that the norm or does it reflect Barrett's religious views?

[Buddha]

Ah, the little lamb, Simon Harris. How old is he? 12?

[C. Flower]

They'll never look fitter than just after a four week canvass.

New suits all round.

[C. Flower]

Ah, the little lamb, Simon Haris. How old is he? 12?

24...

[C. Flower]

Ciara Conway, Labour, seconds

"It will be a National Government...unity of purpose"....

(Take your scarf of indoord, girl)

[Dr. FIVE]

Straining to look statesman like, Enda

[Buddha]

Why is Martin starting every speech as gaeilge? He never did that before. Brian Lenigan looks like an anti-christ.

[C. Flower]

Lenihan should give up on the combover. It is getting a life of its own.

Simon Harris described the Daíl Chamber as "a pit" - much steeper steps down into it that you would think from the camera views.

Noticeable that the opposition are not bothering with the veneer of applauding for the formalities.

[Buddha]

Well, for god's sake, talk about stating the bleedin' obvious. Irish republican, he helped wreck the Republic. Swine.

Ah Joe, I like Joe. No tie. Ciara should lend him her scarf. It's red.

[Baron von Biffo]

"Brows stained with penitential ash..." That was Bertie's trick. :)

[C. Flower]

Joe Higgins says he's surprised that FF didn't come in "heavily covered in Penitential ash".

Has covered emigration, and the greed of the EU banks, and the Brussels witch doctors.

Opposes the nomination of Kenny as Taoiseach.

Off to a running start.

[Buddha]

That's my boy Joe. Am I too old to head for the barriers?

[Dr. FIVE]

"Witch doctors in Brussels"


:)

[Buddha]

Great speaker, Joe. I feel my blood rising. If only the legs would

[Baron von Biffo]

Is he speaking as SP, ULA or TG?

[C. Flower]

is he speaking as sp, ula or tg?

tg ?

[Baron von Biffo]

tg ?

Technical Group.

[C. Flower]

Great speaker, Joe. I feel my blood rising. If only the legs would


:):):)

Just shake your zimmer frame at them Buddha.....

[Dr. FIVE]

Enda will have to keep waiting it seems.

[Baron von Biffo]

Adams lapel is has more badges than a fisherman's hat.

There used to be a convention that TDs didn't wear pins or badges in the chamber because it could lead to the place becoming a circus as members advertised every cause in their constituencies. I can't see how disregarding that convention enhances the dignity of the house.

[Buddha]

It's really weird seeing Adams there, isn't it? The Easter Lily is a bit early, isn't it? I wonder how Caoimhin feels, being booted out as leader of SF in the Dáil? It's a bit insulting. Strange to see SF looking immaculately suited, and then the rag-bag at the back. That's where I'd like to be, with that long haired fellow and Ming. My kind of people.

Did he just say bolox?

[C. Flower]

Adams, seems to be holding a hand out to the Coalition that there might be issues of agreement. Completely different in tone and content to Higgins.

[20 yards of linen=1 coat]

Wow he really is a good speaker. Never had a chance to see him belt out a big speech before. Tuned in just in time.

Was going so well until the very end when he layed out the lunatic (or at least superficial to the max) alternative plan. They really need some economists in the SP :(

[Baron von Biffo]

It's really weird seeing Adams there, isn't it? The Easter Lily is a bit early, isn't it? I wonder how Caoimhin feels, being booted out as leader of SF in the Dáil? It's a bit insulting. Strange to see SF looking immaculately suited, and then the rag-bag at the back. That's where I'd like to be, with that long haired fellow and Ming. My kind of people.

Did he just say bolox?

Mick Wallace.

[C. Flower]

Shane Ross on his feet saying that real renegotiation was needed - not just an interest rate change that everyone knows is already agreed...

Also looking for a big reduction in quangos. Says there are no changes in the PFG to procedures for appointments to State bodies.

[Dr. FIVE]

Honeymoon's over and he's not even Taoiseach yet

[Buddha]

See the body language of Labour? Defensive! Should be shame.

Norris is a great speaker too. Great sense of humour. Hope changes come soon so he can't be gagged. Fond of him I am. He's wasted as a back bencher. We need him. Brains and knowledge of banking.

[C. Flower]

Boyd Barrett now. The Independents seem to be making effective use of their speaking rights.

Agree though that "can't pay, won't pay" is not enough of a plan.

[Rich]

Micks pink shirt open to the third button and sleeves rolled up looks great. He already looks like he would rather be anywhere else.

[Baron von Biffo]

Boyd Barrett now. The Independents seem to be making effective use of their speaking rights.


Is there a bit more latitude today for people to make broader contributions?

EDIT: Ah, Barrett clarifies.

[Buddha]

To think I was roared at for not wearing a frock. Look at Mick with his pink shirt and he could have brushed his ould hair at least. At least Boyd ironed his shirt. lol

They are full of optimism, ain't they? I feel like slitting my wrists after those speeches. Oh God, we are sunk.

[Baron von Biffo]

The new Dail should do something about the microphones in the chamber. bolting them to bench in front of the seats was a bloody stupid idea that leads to much noise and interference as papers and bodies bump off them in the course of speeches.

[Buddha]

Missed that name. The speaker, is he wearing a mad wig? John Halligan. Bit silly. Who is the youth challenged female sitting beside him?

[Starfire]

Different color - more of the same.

[Baron von Biffo]

Missed that name. The speaker, is he wearing a mad wig? John Halligan. Bit silly. Who is the youth challenged female sitting beside him?

Was it Maureen "I knew Tony Gregory" O'Sullivan?

[C. Flower]

Mick Wallace in pink open necked shirt. Hard to focus on what he's saying.

[20 yards of linen=1 coat]

Boyd Barrett now. The Independents seem to be making effective use of their speaking rights.

Agree though that "can't pay, won't pay" is not enough of a plan.

Well tbh Id be happier with that. I mean, thats basically my position. Im not in a position, nor do I find the idea all that appealing, to try to administer the crisis.

As i just said in another thread, you make the country ungovernable, people realise that they are the ones making it ungovernable, using their bodies, brains and capacity for action, and then you work out what to do, together.

Spouting simplistic, uncritical neo-Keynesian slogans as some kind of plausible alternative is only going to alienate people from your cause. Or at the very least begin by lying to those who are supposedly going to be your future "comrades".

But still, go Joe :)

[Buddha]

I'm in love with Mick Wallace. sigh! Nice and Easy Number 4, I think, on the hair. I prefer Number 4 meself Mick. Not so brassy.

[Baron von Biffo]

No point in having a referendum Mick. We live in a Mrs. Doyle democracy - If we give the wrong answer in a referendum they run it again saying, 'Ah, go on. Vote our way. Go on, go on, go on.'.

[Baron von Biffo]

Mick Wallace in pink open necked shirt. Hard to focus on what he's saying.

You looking for a gold medallion? :)

[Buddha]

Ming the Merciless turns out to be a pussycat. Constantine, I fell in love with him as well. I saved the VB shows just to listen to him. Well, really to look at the skits. They were brilliant. What was the name of that fellow who played Vincent. Brilliant. I know nothing. I should have put myself up for election.

[Baron von Biffo]

Dolly has a worse comb-over than the Da. :)

[20 yards of linen=1 coat]

and he's a socialist! caring for the most vulnurable is the true test of a democracy :o

ming has lived in holland apparently. but unfortunately doesnt get that "reform", as in "pension reform" in France, doesnt mean anymore what he does by "reforming" the health system.

I left Ireland before becoming interested in politics at all really.Do all these independent TDs get to speak every time there's a matter of business, or are they constrained somehow? Seems like there's a fair collection of them now who are willing to speak out.

[Buddha]

No wonder I couldn't get onto Google's Quotes of Famous People last night. The whole of Dáil Eireann were googling it.

[Dr. FIVE]

Going to be an excellent Dáil

[Baron von Biffo]

Going to be an excellent Dáil

Entertaining maybe, excellent, I fear not.

[Baron von Biffo]

Doherty's back on the raw meat.

[C. Flower]

You looking for a gold medallion? :)

I was looking for sunglasses, to tone it all down a little :cool:

[goatstoe]

Brian Dowling says 3 Independents are supporting Kenny for Taoiseach? Who are the 3 does anyone know.

[Baron von Biffo]

Those who cried most for reform now calling for time to be wasted on a walk through vote on a foregone conclusion. Only in the door and they're into the politics of petty stunts.

[C. Flower]

Doherty's back on the raw meat.

Doherty - all the jobs being cut have been listed, and no jobs being created.

[Baron von Biffo]

I was looking for sunglasses, to tone it all down a little :cool:

I thought he'd set your heart aflutter. :)

[C. Flower]

Brian Dowling says 3 Independents are supporting Kenny for Taoiseach? Who are the 3 does anyone know.


Lowry, Healy Rae and McGrath.

[Baron von Biffo]

Brian Dowling says 3 Independents are supporting Kenny for Taoiseach? Who are the 3 does anyone know.

Lowry, Healy Rae and Grealish.

[Dr. FIVE]

Grealish not mcgrath no?

[Baron von Biffo]

Lowry, Healy Rae and McGrath.


Lowry, Healy Rae and Grealish.

We need an adjudicator.

[Baron von Biffo]

Grealish not mcgrath no?

Could be. I thought I heard Grealish but this could be like that time in 73 when I was wrong before. ;)

[Dr. FIVE]

FF are in big trouble.

[C. Flower]

Could be. I thought I heard Grealish but this could be like that time in 73 when I was wrong before. ;)

I doubt it and concede without contest.

[Buddha]

Can we have the election over again. I'm not happy with the results?

[C. Flower]

FF are in big trouble.

Because..... ?

[Baron von Biffo]

Can we have the election over again. I'm not happy with the results?

Give it a month or so and you'll have a hell of a lot of company.

[Buddha]

Were you wrong once in 1973 Baron? I'm a mammy. Havn't been wrong since 1975.

[Baron von Biffo]

Were you wrong once in 1973 Baron? I'm a mammy. Havn't been wrong since 1975.

I was. For some reason I got it in me head that Lumley's in Tullamore closed half day on Saturday. They still recall it in those parts.

[Buddha]

Is Mary O'Rourke fully employed by Pravda now?

[C. Flower]

117-27

[Baron von Biffo]

It's done. We're stuck with Kenny for the next few years.

[Buddha]

I was. For some reason I got it in me head that Lumley's in Tullamore closed half day on Saturday. They still recall it in those parts.

:p:p

[C. Flower]

"I say it to be real, to be true, to tell the truth of Ireland of this day"....

[Rich]

Did Enda just forget his mothers name?

[goatstoe]

Enda is going to cry.

[Dr. FIVE]

So far today only Micheal Healy Rae and Enda have needed to read their speeches.

[C. Flower]

Did Enda just forget his mothers name?

It's "Mammy", silly.:p

[Baron von Biffo]

So far today only Micheal Healy Rae and Enda have needed to read their speeches.

+ Kenny's proposer and seconder, Barrett, Adams, Higgins, Fleming and a few others.

[Baron von Biffo]

It's "Mammy", silly.:p

Kenny's mother is Mary O'Rourke! :eek::eek::eek:

[Rich]

It's "Mammy", silly.:p

Naw, that's Mary O'Rourke (actually could have been what caused the confusion!!!).

:)

[Dr. FIVE]

+ Kenny's proposer and seconder, Barrett, Adams, Higgins, Fleming and a few others.

Excuse me, well it not like Enda hasn't had time to prepare.

[20 yards of linen=1 coat]

Lol Enda's been reading Walter Benjamin, "turn our faces towards the sun"

" IV
Seek for food and clothing first, then
the Kingdom of God shall be added unto you.


Hegel, 1807


The class struggle, which is always present to a historian influenced by Marx, is a fight for the crude and material things without which no refined and spiritual things could exist. Nevertheless, it is not in the form of the spoils which fall to the victor that the latter make their presence felt in the class struggle. They manifest themselves in this struggle as courage, humor, cunning, and fortitude. They have retroactive force and will constantly call in question every victory, past and present, of the rulers. As flowers turn toward the sun, by dint of a secret heliotropism the past strives to turn toward that sun which is rising in the sky of history. A historical materialist must be aware of this most inconspicuous of all transformations."


Obviously didnt feel like the dail was the right place for the whole thing, but still, he made a gesture towards it :p

[Baron von Biffo]

Excuse me, well it not like Enda hasn't had time to prepare.

:) 35 years is a long time to put a few words together.

Presumably his speech, and those of his proposer and seconder would have been written or at least tidied up by their party back-room hacks.

[Baron von Biffo]

Kenny is the 13th Taoiseach.

http://www.joehiggins.eu/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/the-scream.jpeg

[C. Flower]

Lol Enda's been reading Walter Benjamin, "turn our faces towards the sun"

" IV
Seek for food and clothing first, then
the Kingdom of God shall be added unto you.


Hegel, 1807


The class struggle, which is always present to a historian influenced by Marx, is a fight for the crude and material things without which no refined and spiritual things could exist. Nevertheless, it is not in the form of the spoils which fall to the victor that the latter make their presence felt in the class struggle. They manifest themselves in this struggle as courage, humor, cunning, and fortitude. They have retroactive force and will constantly call in question every victory, past and present, of the rulers. As flowers turn toward the sun, by dint of a secret heliotropism the past strives to turn toward that sun which is rising in the sky of history. A historical materialist must be aware of this most inconspicuous of all transformations."


Obviously didnt feel like the dail was the right place for the whole thing, but still, he made a gesture towards it :p

That's brilliant, and true. Who was Walter Benjamin ?

[20 yards of linen=1 coat]

That's brilliant, and true. Who was Walter Benjamin ?

Someone who is really well worth reading. Im going to start a thread proposing a reading group of the (very short) Theses on the Philosophy of History (http://www.sfu.ca/~andrewf/CONCEPT2.html) that this comes from.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Benjamin

Beautiful, subtle, razor-sharp thinking that never settles no matter how many times you read it, yet somehow seems to be true at the same time.

[C. Flower]

Someone who is really well worth reading. Im going to start a thread proposing a reading group of the (very short) Theses on the Philosophy of History (http://www.sfu.ca/~andrewf/CONCEPT2.html) that this comes from.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Benjamin

Beautiful, subtle, razor-sharp thinking that never settles no matter how many times you read it, yet somehow seems to be true at the same time.

Yes, I'd be interested in that.

[The Doctor]

The seals of office thing is very strange. Kenny and the ministers will be given the seals by McAleese, they will pose for photos with them and then they're snapped away and locked up in the Aras until next time. Ministers don't get to take them away - they don't even get a replica.

There are, however, ministerial seals kept in each department. If a minister has to make an Order appointing, say, the Governor of Mountjoy then the official Order must have the ministerial seal on it.

It's a brute of a thing weightwise, a bit like a metal guillotine. The seal is pressed into the Order to leave a firm imprint.

[Apjp]

Joe Higgins says he's surprised that FF didn't come in "heavily covered in Penitential ash".

Has covered emigration, and the greed of the EU banks, and the Brussels witch doctors.

Opposes the nomination of Kenny as Taoiseach.

Off to a running start.

havent time for the live links. would people mind putting the speeches from the real opposition of the tech. group and sf up on this for me late please? thanks. No one was bothered protesting with me but Ive a meeting tonight and im expecting 20-30 to show up. ill let ye know how that gets on.

[Apjp]

See the body language of Labour? Defensive! Should be shame.

Norris is a great speaker too. Great sense of humour. Hope changes come soon so he can't be gagged. Fond of him I am. He's wasted as a back bencher. We need him. Brains and knowledge of banking.

who's that? only norris i remember is the senator/president cand.

[C. Flower]

Half an hour delay to resumption of the Daíl. It seems that Enda Kenny may not have informed everyone he wants to serve as Ministers.

Or else someone has turned a post down ?

[Baron von Biffo]

There are, however, ministerial seals kept in each department. If a minister has to make an Order appointing, say, the Governor of Mountjoy then the official Order must have the ministerial seal on it.

It's a brute of a thing weightwise, a bit like a metal guillotine. The seal is pressed into the Order to leave a firm imprint.

Thanks for that information. I often wondered how the formal, "Given under his seal" was accomplished

[Baron von Biffo]

Half an hour delay to resumption of the Daíl. It seems that Enda Kenny may not have informed everyone he wants to serve as Ministers.

Or else someone has turned a post down ?

Someone feeling slighted at coming too far down the pecking order?

Roaring Ring or Loopy Lucy after putting the head on Kenny because he hasn't recognised their enormous talents?

[Baron von Biffo]

Mouthy voted for Kenny. Bridge burned there.

[Baron von Biffo]

OT here for a minute, but anyone know what sort of fee the likes of Mary O'Rourke would get for her appearance on RTE today?

[Baron von Biffo]

Speculation that Leo the Loon if getting a Merc. :(

[Baron von Biffo]

Varadkar is in. Sad that.

[Baron von Biffo]

Noonan. Quinn, Howlin, and Burton also in.

[C. Flower]

Higgins head of technical group. McGrath and Ross deputies.

[goatstoe]

Varadkar is in. Sad that.

Enda didn't want him outside the tent, sharpening knives and pissing in I'd say.

[disability student]

Any news re new appointed ministers??? :(

[C. Flower]

Taoiseach to move approval of Government

Enda Kenny - Taoiseach
Pat Rabitte - Energy and Communications
Michael Noonan - Finance
Brendan Howlin - Public Expenditure and Reform
Richard Bruton - Enterprise
Jimmy Deenihan - Arts
Joan Burton - Social Protection
Simon Coveney Marine and Tourism
Phil Hogan Environment and Local Gov.
Alan Shatter - Justice
Simon Coveney - Agriculture
James O'Reilly - Health
Leo Varadker _ Transport
Eamonn Gilmore - Tanaiste - Foreign Affairs
Ruairi Quinn - Education and Science
Frances Fitzgerald - Children
Paul Keogh Chief Whip
Penrose (Super Junior)

[Baron von Biffo]

Taoiseach to move approval of Government

Enda Kenny
Michael Noonan
Brendan Howlin - Public Expenditure and Reform
Richard Bruton
Jimmy Deenihan
Simon Coveney Marine and Tourism
Phil Hogan Environment and Local Gov.
Alan Shatter
Simon Coveney
James O'Reilly
Leo Varadker
Eamonn Gilmore - Tanaiste
Ruairi Quinn
Frances Fitzgerald
Paul Keogh Chief Whip
? Penrose (Super Junior)

You have Coveney in there twice so maybe Penrose got the full car.

[Baron von Biffo]

Noonan got Finance - very poor choice.

Frances Fitzgerald, token FG woman in cabinet gets the super junior post of children made up to full rank.

[Baron von Biffo]

Howlin got the pretend Finance job for Lab.

[disability student]

Got text from someone... Ruairi Quinn Minister for Education and P Kehoe remains as a Chief whip.

Marie Whelan for AG. I expect more news to come on stream in various media outlets.

[kozlov]

Heard some of the proceedings on the wireless RTE-1:cool:

[Rich]

Think this is the full list

Eamon Gilmore Tánaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade
Minister for Finance Michael Noonan
Minister for Education and Skills Ruarai Quinn
Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform Brendan Howlin
Minister for Enterprise, Jobs and Innovation Richard Bruton
Minister for Social Protection Joan Burton
Minister for Arts, Heritage and Gaeltacht Affairs Jimmy Deenihan
Minister for Environment, Community and Local Government Phil Hogan
Minister for Agriculture Marine and Food Simon Coveney
Minister for Communications, Energy and Natural Resources Pat Rabbitte
Minister for Justice, Equality and Defence Alan Shatter
Minister for Children Francis Fitzgerald
Minister for Health James Reilly
Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport Leo Varadkar

Plus Paul Keogh as Chief Whip and Willie Penrose as super junior


New Thread Maybe?

Edit: New Thread Started

[Baron von Biffo]

Think this is the full list

Eamon Gilmore Tánaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade
Minister for Finance Michael Noonan
Minister for Education and Skills Ruarai Quinn
Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform Brendan Howlin
Minister for Enterprise, Jobs and Innovation Richard Bruton
Minister for Social Protection Joan Burton
Minister for Arts, Heritage and Gaeltacht Affairs Jimmy Deenihan
Minister for Environment, Community and Local Government Phil Hogan
Minister for Agriculture Marine and Food Simon Coveney
Minister for Communications, Energy and Natural Resources Pat Rabbitte
Minister for Justice, Equality and Defence Alan Shatter
Minister for Children Francis Fitzgerald
Minister for Health James Reilly
Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport Leo Varadkar


New Thread Maybe?

Given his stance on Israeli atrocities it's shameful to give Justice to Shatter.

[disability student]

Given his stance on Israeli atrocities it's shameful to give Justice to Shatter.

Yeah it's really shameful.

[Buddha]

who's that? only norris i remember is the senator/president cand.

I meant Shane Ross Apjp. You must remember that I am not the Pope. I make the odd error. As Shane and David shared an office for years when I knew them I tend to mix their names up in my very old head.


Varadkar is in. Sad that.

Smirky crathure. I cannot take to that man at all. I'm sure he lies awake at nights worrying about that, but there you are.

[C. Flower]

Claire Daly's maiden speech had Gilmore looking seriously sour.

[Buddha]

Looking at Seán Sherlock, I can't believe it. First time I met him he was only a kid, when Nelson Mandala visited the Dáil. His dad was trying to get Seán a ticket to the gallery, as he was crazy about Mandala, but couldn't. I gave him mine. Didn't see him again for years until one day this young man comes up to me, gives me a hug and thanks me for the ticket. Little Seán grown up. Lovely lad. Lovely. Great fun.

[Dr. FIVE]

Willie talking out his arse about maintaining the high integrity of ministerial office now.

Also claiming he is from the less cynical wing of the sindo

[C. Flower]

Looking at Seán Sherlock, I can't believe it. First time I met him he was only a kid, when Nelson Mandala visited the Dáil. His dad was trying to get Seán a ticket to the gallery, as he was crazy about Mandala, but couldn't. I gave him mine. Didn't see him again for years until one day this young man comes up to me, gives me a hug and thanks me for the ticket. Little Seán grown up. Lovely lad. Lovely. Great fun.

And a member here at Pw.org, if you would like to renew the acquaintance ;)

[Apjp]

I meant Shane Ross Apjp. You must remember that I am not the Pope. I make the odd error. As Shane and David shared an office for years when I knew them I tend to mix their names up in my very old head.



Smirky crathure. I cannot take to that man at all. I'm sure he lies awake at nights worrying about that, but there you are.

ok cheers :p

[C. Flower]

TD's and Ministers salaries are to be reduced by between 10,000-15,000 euro.

Hardly a serious sacrifice, leaving them still with 130,000 - 200,000 + salaries.

Three times the average salary.

[Dr. FIVE]

Slap in the face.

Are they for real?

[Buddha]

And a member here at Pw.org, if you would like to renew the acquaintance ;)

Are you serious C. Flower? Wonderful. Would you let him know who I am. He'll know. We shared the same boss for a while.:o

[C. Flower]

.

He's registered in his own name Apjp, or of course I would on no account have mentioned him.

[Baron von Biffo]

TD's and Ministers salaries are to be reduced by between 10,000-15,000 euro.

Hardly a serious sacrifice, leaving them still with 130,000 - 200,000 + salaries.

Three times the average salary.

About the same as a bonus for a failure in a bank.

[C. Flower]

For the avoidance of confusion, I've just deleted a couple of posts here misdentifying a member.

The person I mentioned, seansherlocktd, is registered in his own name as per my previous post.