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C. Flower
10-11-2010, 03:05 PM
Millbank Tower, Tory Headquarters has been occupied by people on the London students demonstration. The lobby and ground floor glass is in bits.

Wicked fairy asked for a thread to be started on this.

Sam Lord
10-11-2010, 03:14 PM
BBC News footage here

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-11726822

Sam Lord
10-11-2010, 03:18 PM
Cops have been very restrained so far ..... but then they were kinda overwhelmed and no riot gear.

yehbut_nobut
10-11-2010, 03:18 PM
http://news.sky.com/skynews/LivePlus

live stream.

I'm actually shocked. People trashing the building, many really losing it.

Andrew49
10-11-2010, 03:22 PM
Tory source confirms some party staff are still in the building - via Twitter @BBCLauraK

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c135/theknitter/millbank.jpg

Demonstrators have been cleared from outside the Liberal Democrat headquarters, where a car window has been smashed. The earlier rally had passed off peacefully. Hundreds of coach loads of students and lecturers had travelled to London from across England for the demonstration in Whitehall, with 2,000 students also travelling from Wales.

What's the betting that 'agent provocateurs' are at work here in order to justify more draconian laws?

Captain Con O'Sullivan
10-11-2010, 03:24 PM
Note identity numbers on police helmets

wickedfairy
10-11-2010, 03:40 PM
Tory source confirms some party staff are still in the building - via Twitter @BBCLauraK

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c135/theknitter/millbank.jpg

Demonstrators have been cleared from outside the Liberal Democrat headquarters, where a car window has been smashed. The earlier rally had passed off peacefully. Hundreds of coach loads of students and lecturers had travelled to London from across England for the demonstration in Whitehall, with 2,000 students also travelling from Wales.

What's the betting that 'agent provocateurs' are at work here in order to justify more draconian laws?

yes saw a very suss guy behind police lines, look like students but doubtful, on his own with no mates around, I dont think so.

Andrew49
10-11-2010, 03:40 PM
Footage of the moment demonstrating students broke into Millbank Tower
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0Nnl18T2Dk

wickedfairy
10-11-2010, 04:09 PM
a lot of the police helmets have U43 on them, surely these aren't ID numbers if they are replicated - anyone know?

Lapsedmethodist
10-11-2010, 04:12 PM
Note identity numbers on police helmets

Note the identity numbers on the Garda uniforms last week. It's riot police who don't carry numbers and quite right too... otherwise they'd be targeted off duty.

moss
10-11-2010, 04:21 PM
I never would have imagined éirígí has so many members in London. Live and learn eh.

wickedfairy
10-11-2010, 04:31 PM
its obligatory according to this article, but how can there be two U43s? Mind you thus far the police have been using the "kettling" method to great effect today.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1170963/Maybe-just-forgot-Scotland-Yards-incredible-excuse-police-officer-spotted-ID-street-protest.html

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Christy Walsh
10-11-2010, 04:49 PM
The reception staff seem to calmly accepting the students entrance very well. The students appear more to have broke loose rather than any intent to be distructive, which is good.

morticia
10-11-2010, 09:49 PM
Mortgage holders, take note......

C. Flower
10-11-2010, 10:12 PM
Students have changed - a point made by apjp on another thread - and they are serious people trying to get an education - a degree is almost an essential for any any kind of decent job.

There was also a sense of lessons have been learned from the vast, and totally ignored, million strong demonstration against the Iraq war. Some students felt that more direct action was needed.

There may have been provocation in the window smashing, and the police sat back in the most calculated way. A bid for increased funding, if ever I saw one - and cheeky in letting the Tory headquarters get trashed.

A message to the Tories "you need us".

Sam Lord
10-11-2010, 11:01 PM
There may have been provocation in the window smashing, and the police sat back in the most calculated way. A bid for increased funding, if ever I saw one - and cheeky in letting the Tory headquarters get trashed.

A message to the Tories "you need us".

Actually, I think it is just that they were not in a position to make arrests at that stage. There was a large mass of students between them and any reinforcements. Their best move was to stand off.

Lapsedmethodist
10-11-2010, 11:05 PM
its obligatory according to this article, but how can there be two U43s? Mind you thus far the police have been using the "kettling" method to great effect today.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1170963/Maybe-just-forgot-Scotland-Yards-incredible-excuse-police-officer-spotted-ID-street-protest.html

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Unit 43 not individual 43. The purpose is to identify the units to each other, not in order to have individual police identified.

C. Flower
10-11-2010, 11:07 PM
Actually, I think it is just that they were not in a position to make arrests at that stage. There was a large mass of students between them and any reinforcements. Their best move was to stand off.

Do you know the Met ?

Sam Lord
10-11-2010, 11:11 PM
Do you know the Met ?

Apart from one highly unfortunate experience with what was know as the time as a Special Patrol Group ... no, not really.

C. Flower
10-11-2010, 11:14 PM
50,000, in Britain is a small demonstration. (well done to the Irish students with 30-40,000)

But 225 police out to deal with it was a farce, and not in any way normal.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1328586/STUDENT-TUITION-FEES-PROTEST-Just-225-police-hold-50-000-rioters.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

The Met have dealt with major urban riots like Brixton, Broadwater Farm and long running industrial disputes like the News International, the Notting Hill Riots, the G20, for decades.

If they genuinely were taken by surprise, which I much doubt, it is an extraordinary failure of intelligence, given that it was organised on Face Book in full view.

Sorry to hear about your brush with the SPG.

Sam Lord
10-11-2010, 11:16 PM
50,000, in Britain is a small demonstration. Or

... What? I hate being left hanging like that.

C. Flower
10-11-2010, 11:20 PM
... What? I hate being left hanging like that.

It was me that was left hangin....

If you look back, the post seems to have resolved itself.

Sam Lord
10-11-2010, 11:28 PM
Sorry to hear about your brush with the SPG.

I've spent three decades trying to blot it out of my mind.

And then you ask me if I'm familiar with the met ....:(

C. Flower
10-11-2010, 11:30 PM
I've spent three decades trying to blot it out of my mind.

And then you ask me if I'm familiar with the met ....:(

You shouldn't have tried to take them on on your own.

Sam Lord
10-11-2010, 11:33 PM
Anyway ... back to today. At what level in the force do you think the conspiracy was planned?

C. Flower
10-11-2010, 11:36 PM
Anyway ... back to today. At what level in the force do you think the conspiracy was planned?

Interesting question. Whoever is apologising is obviously suspect.

I'd be interested to hear the helicopter communications.

Justin Casey
10-11-2010, 11:43 PM
'What is clear is that - as one might expect - these students did their homework, clearly outflanking the police in reaching Millbank in numbers before they did. I can see both sides making something of this - the Police Federation may well use it as ammunition for their argument for funding, just like the students.

One curious fact though today, I spoke to three different policemen in very different areas, all of whom said there would be a lot more of this and expressed considerable sympathy with what happened here today.

That sentiment echoed too by a 54-year-old office manager of a charity, who looked at the damage here and said that phrase we have heard so much today: "this is only the beginning".'

C4's Chief Correspondent Alex Thomson blogs from the wrecked lobby at Millbank Tower (http://www.channel4.com/news/student-fees-march-erupts-into-day-of-violence)

C. Flower
10-11-2010, 11:44 PM
Of course, it could have been a London strain of the blue flu.

Sam Lord
10-11-2010, 11:48 PM
Its a common belief ... that the all powerful can never not be all powerful ...

C. Flower
10-11-2010, 11:50 PM
Its a common belief ... that the all powerful can never not be all powerful ...

Indeed. And I've seen them bested. But I've never seen them sit on their hands before.
That's something new.

Justin Casey
10-11-2010, 11:55 PM
Nine UK newspapers use same protest image on front pages (http://politicalscrapbook.net/2010/11/nus-protest-front-pages/?ref=nf)

Sam Lord
10-11-2010, 11:59 PM
Great image.

Is there another theory being put forward about why it ended up on so many front pages?

Justin Casey
11-11-2010, 12:05 AM
I suppose none of 'em had a good shot of this incident:

Look out below

Sam Lord
11-11-2010, 12:21 AM
I suppose none of 'em had a good shot of this incident:

Look out below (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAGNJMQD1rA)

I saw it earlier from a top down view ... the cops were lucky.

The crowd didn't care for it. I wouldn't have either.

Justin Casey
11-11-2010, 06:26 PM
Students in protest at Manchester University (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-11737858)

Students' statement:
"We are demanding that the university opens its books so that we know where the cuts will fall, how many voluntary redundancies have already been made and to highlight the fact that the vice chancellor is paid 20 times the average salary. The financial director has denied any cuts are planned despite the fact that voluntary redundancies have been announced and the combined studies department has already been cut. We are here to support lecturers and administrative staff who will be losing there jobs. To oppose the rise in tuition fees that will price out most working class students. And to oppose the privatisation of our universities."

moss
24-11-2010, 12:25 PM
English students are out protesting again today with some school pupils also staging walk outs.

They've embarked on what they call a 'carnival of resistance'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-11829102


Mark Bergfeld, spokesman for the Education Activist Network, one of the groups organising the protests, said: "We have the right to protest, we have the right to civil disobedience, we have the right to occupy our lecture halls." And an anarchist group has also called for "roaming marches" to "disrupt business" across central London, rather than a static stand-off with police.
Good luck to all involved

Captain Con O'Sullivan
24-11-2010, 12:27 PM
Mark Bergfeld, spokesman for the Education Activist Network, one of the groups organising the protests, said: "We have the right to protest, we have the right to civil disobedience, we have the right to occupy our lecture halls." And an anarchist group has also called for "roaming marches" to "disrupt business" across central London, rather than a static stand-off with police.

By all the Georges I think the UK students have it right.

C. Flower
24-11-2010, 12:44 PM
There are demonstrations on in Edinburgh, Glasgow and London.
Reports in London of riot police on foot and horseback kettling and hitting demonstrators with batons.

moss
24-11-2010, 01:15 PM
Live link here

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11566509

The police are kettling, trouble can be expected.

Munnkeyman
24-11-2010, 01:21 PM
Wow!!
Invade Downing Street anyone?

C. Flower
26-11-2010, 07:28 PM
Mounted police charge students in London yesterday.


http://www.newleftproject.org/index.php/nlpblog/fulltext/mounted_police_charge_student_protestors/


http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/nov2010/ukst-n26.shtml

morticia
01-12-2010, 07:26 PM
AAaaand they're off. UK police vs UK students.... to the Benny Hill theme tune

Hilarious!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0jKvgS7olo&feature=youtu.be

wickedfairy
01-12-2010, 08:17 PM
yay good on them, they have copped on to the kettling gig. Trying the starling method; play smarter not harder ;)

C. Flower
01-12-2010, 08:23 PM
yay good on them, they have copped on to the kettling gig. Trying the starling method; play smarter not harder ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0jKvgS7olo&feature=youtu.be

:)

C. Flower
08-12-2010, 10:42 AM
Student occupations all over, still. Facing £9,000 a year, why wouldn't there be ?

All the Lib Dem Ministers are lined up to vote for it today.

100 sixth form students are occupying Camden Girls school, London -

http://camdenschoolsitin.wordpress.com/

C. Flower
09-12-2010, 12:35 PM
Students on the move through Central London at great speed - the students have decided not to be kettled, if possible, and in the last few demonstrations have gone guerilla - leaving arranged routes, spreading out rather than clustering, running not walking - and arranging new "targets" and routes spontaneously, during the protests, rather than pre-arranging.

Captain Con O'Sullivan
09-12-2010, 12:36 PM
Thats the way to go .... run Constable Plod all over London...

C. Flower
09-12-2010, 12:50 PM
Reports via twitter of some kettling and students breaking through police lines, getting beaten.

Students could do with some aerial reconnaissance.

C. Flower
09-12-2010, 01:46 PM
Sky is asking a Police rep. what intelligence is gathered before demonstrations - he replies that favoured sources are open source media, websites, forums etc. :)

C. Flower
09-12-2010, 02:40 PM
Sky not showing it, although they have a helicopter - but Sky's reporter is describing a line of 10 police horses charging the crowd near Westminster Abbey, on policeman "unhorsed", and a lot of paint being thrown, to obscure police visors. Riot police with batons raise, a lot of arrests and people pinned to ground and taken away, one policeman with a leg injury. The loose barriers are being used by students in defence from police horses. Pictures now being shown of a demonstrator being batoned on the ground and arrested.

C. Flower
09-12-2010, 04:08 PM
LIb Dems shaky ? Two Parliamentary Private Secretaries have resigned today Willett and Crockart.

C. Flower
09-12-2010, 05:04 PM
Still going on - two demonstrations converged and a group of police is kettled.

5intheface
09-12-2010, 05:21 PM
Some minor trouble at protest in Belfast;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-11956619

Mostly secondary school children. QUB Student's Union have condemned the protest and say they don't support it????

With friends like these......

C. Flower
09-12-2010, 05:24 PM
Some minor trouble at protest in Belfast;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-11956619

Mostly secondary school children. QUB Student's Union have condemned the protest and say they don't support it????

With friends like these......

I wonder who organised this then -

http://www.politicalworld.org/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=98&day=2010-12-9&c=1

5intheface
09-12-2010, 05:30 PM
I wonder who organised this then -

http://www.politicalworld.org/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=98&day=2010-12-9&c=1

Good question. Lesson in how not to win friends, let children protest for student rights, refuse to support the protest then condemn them so quickly as to not have the reasonable time to figure out who was responsible or how serious it was. Pathetic.

whydontwe
09-12-2010, 05:40 PM
Closer to home....report today of a young sec school student in Clondalkin (Shane Donnelly I think)...suspended for/re organising protest (albeit non-violent) about cutbacks !! Appears independent thought is ok...as long as it's not against authority.....what a great thing Capitalism and Democracy is (Irish that is) !!!

Justin Casey
09-12-2010, 06:42 PM
"Protesters have climbed into the Treasury" apparently.

DayX3: Shutdown London (https://london.indymedia.org.uk/action_timelines/dayx3-shutdown-london)

Justin Casey
09-12-2010, 06:50 PM
CNN reports Prince Charles and Camilla's car attacked by student protesters in London; both unhurt.

morticia
09-12-2010, 07:46 PM
CNN reports Prince Charles and Camilla's car attacked by student protesters in London; both unhurt.

Chas and Camilla's car on Beeb right now, splattered with paint. Students nearly succeeded in getting into Treasury. Weapon of choice is the Xmas bauble, filled with paint. MPs temporarily unable to leave Palace of Westminster. Military police out in force. Students avoiding kettling via smartphones and Twitter. Continentals could learn from that, I'd guess.

Other half trying to find his "historic" summons for non payment of poll tax dating from Ma Thatch's reign and stating that he thinks this is worse than the poll tax riots. His humble opinion is that they're facing a winter of discontent without parallel since the '70s at least. He thinks it's about time the establishment need a collective kick up the @rse....the British public has been supine in front of reality TV while various governments have eroded their collective entitlements. The opium of the people is no longer religion.

He says once they snap over there, they stay snapped. Well, they are being asked to pay the equivalent of 11,000 euro.... puts the two grand over 'ere into perspective, I suppose. Although it's a slippery slope, they've gone from £1250 to £9000 in ten short years.

This is a Tory land grab..... they're winding up the ladder of privilege and education behind them. I suppose equal ops in the HR dept means they have to find some other way to make sure their offspring get the plum jobs. Making 3rd level education unaffordable for anyone without a rich parent would do the trick there, I guess.

The Tories make FF/FG look like amateurs. And I don't mean that as a compliment.

Students now smashing windows on Oxford St. The riot era has begun.

Top shop smashed up with Tax Dodgers graffiti'ed onto the front. They've got a point; if the non-doms all paid tax, the fees wouldn't be needed

C. Flower
09-12-2010, 08:32 PM
National Gallery was visited too.

There were a good number of members of other Trade Unions on the march. The more, the merrier.

People Korps
10-12-2010, 12:33 AM
Chas and Camilla's car on Beeb right now, splattered with paint. Students nearly succeeded in getting into Treasury. Weapon of choice is the Xmas bauble, filled with paint. MPs temporarily unable to leave Palace of Westminster. Military police out in force. Students avoiding kettling via smartphones and Twitter. Continentals could learn from that, I'd guess.

Other half trying to find his "historic" summons for non payment of poll tax dating from Ma Thatch's reign and stating that he thinks this is worse than the poll tax riots. His humble opinion is that they're facing a winter of discontent without parallel since the '70s at least. He thinks it's about time the establishment need a collective kick up the @rse....the British public has been supine in front of reality TV while various governments have eroded their collective entitlements. The opium of the people is no longer religion.

He says once they snap over there, they stay snapped. Well, they are being asked to pay the equivalent of 11,000 euro.... puts the two grand over 'ere into perspective, I suppose. Although it's a slippery slope, they've gone from £1250 to £9000 in ten short years.

This is a Tory land grab..... they're winding up the ladder of privilege and education behind them. I suppose equal ops in the HR dept means they have to find some other way to make sure their offspring get the plum jobs. Making 3rd level education unaffordable for anyone without a rich parent would do the trick there, I guess.

The Tories make FF/FG look like amateurs. And I don't mean that as a compliment.

Students now smashing windows on Oxford St. The riot era has begun.

Top shop smashed up with Tax Dodgers graffiti'ed onto the front. They've got a point; if the non-doms all paid tax, the fees wouldn't be needed

Off with their heads
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Admin/BkFill/Default_image_group/2010/12/9/1291930296034/Prince-Charles-Camilla-006.jpg

A wasted Serbia 1914 moment, a wasted 1793?

Dr. FIVE
10-12-2010, 02:54 AM
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f119/mistersloane/fire1.jpg

Dr. FIVE
10-12-2010, 04:26 PM
Chasing royal cars is just the urban version of fox-hunting. These country folk don't understand our ways. #SeeHowYouLikeItYouInbredParasite

:Ddgdgdg

RNU PRO
10-12-2010, 05:56 PM
REPUBLICAN NETWORK for UNITY (RNU) Spokesperson, MARTIN ÓG MEEHAN has expressed his revulsion that RUC/PSNI riot squads were used against teenage students in Belfast City Centre yesterday afternoon.

Mr. Meehan said; “Despite being notified that they were involved a peaceful protest, paramilitary police eagerly assaulted and brutally detained demonstrators, many of who were clearly wearing school uniforms. This kind of of treatment can only be described as disgraceful. Particularly given that this year marks the 20th anniversary of the Convention on the Rights of the Child when children's rights were recognised and safeguarded under international law. We are saddened to see that the PSNI/RUC has completely disregarded the human rights of young Irish citizens".

Mr. Meehan concluded; “RNU denounce the use of draconian laws by the RUC/PSNI to attack and arrest defenseless Students and their abhorrent actions have no place in 21st Century Ireland. To treat our youth in such a manner will only serve to instill another generation filled with hatred for the so-called policing body and they will only have themselves, their actions and mistreatment to blame".

C. Flower
10-12-2010, 05:58 PM
We have a thread on the demonstrations. Would you mind if this is moved to it ?

RNU PRO
10-12-2010, 06:03 PM
We have a thread on the demonstrations. Would you mind if this is moved to it ?

No chara, not at all....

C. Flower
10-12-2010, 06:15 PM
No chara, not at all....

We had a report there yesterday that the Students Union in QUB opposed the demonstration, which we found hard to believe.

C. Flower
10-12-2010, 07:04 PM
Sky News is reporting that there were armed police at the student demonstration in London yesterday. The police are talking about preemptive arrests of "troublemakers" before future demonstrations - they are expecting plenty of them because of the cuts. Also talking about arresting people who have their faces covered at the beginning of demonstrations.

23 year old Alfie Meadows had a 3 hour operation for bleeding on the brain after being hit with a truncheon and is recovering.

C. Flower
12-12-2010, 11:16 AM
Alfie Meadow's mother is saying in the Guardian that police tried to prevent him getting treatment in Chelsea Hospital and that he could have died if transferred.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/dec/12/police-injured-protester-hospital

jimmymalone
12-12-2010, 07:48 PM
ROYAL FALSE FLAG PSY-OP?


Commander Peter Loughborough is the policeman in charge of the Royal protection Command. He is in fact the 7th Earl of Rosslyn.

According to aaranaardvark (Windsors On Cue For Panto.) the attack on Prince Charles's car, on 9 December 2010, was "an event staged by paid 'thugs' otherwise known as agents provocateurs as a pretext to introduce more draconian policing measures in the face of widespread and spreading civil unrest...

"We have already seen the Met playing around with these sort of false flag incidents like when they staged the fake 'attack' on a police van for the cameras early on in the student protest cycle... (AGENTS PROVOCATEURS - LONDON STUDENT DEMO)

"So we have the most expendable and least popular Royals deliberately attacked by police sponsored agents provocateurs while the Royal Protection Squad blamed their radios for failing to prevent the alleged "attack".....

"The chants of 'off with their heads' as the 'incident' took place actually sounded more like the Bullingdon Club 'scoundrels' than protest movement activists to me...





http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2010/12/royal-false-flag-psy-op.html

Some allegations that the attack on Charles and Camilla may have been staged by agent provocateurs.

YouTube - Anarchy in UK: Video of Prince Charles's car bottled in London's protests

Watch the video very closely here, notice how the people attacking Charles and Camilla keep referring to Camilla as the the 'Duchess of Cornwall'. It seems a bit too formal for anarchists;) You can also hear the chants of 'off with their heads'. This all seems very contrived;)

C. Flower
31-12-2010, 08:54 AM
The last of the many UK student occupations, in Kent, is still standing...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2010/dec/30/kent-university-tuition-fees-protest?CMP=twt_gu



For more than three weeks, the 22-year-old postgraduate researcher has been living in the university's Senate building, alongside a loose collective of 50 other students (http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/students) who are protesting against the education cuts planned by the coalition.
While other sit-ins have petered out as universities closed for the festive break, a core of Kent students have stayed put. Today marked their 22nd day of occupation. Desperate to get them out, the university has decided to treat them like squatters and has hired solicitors to begin eviction proceedings. A summons was served just before Christmas, compelling the group to attend court on 7 January.
"We're proud to be the last ones standing, but only in the sense that the cause is worth it," said Lizzy, a 19-year-old astrophysics student from Brighton who has been washing her peroxide hair daily in a sink in the Senate's toilets, styling it using the hand-dryer.

Dr. FIVE
29-04-2011, 07:13 PM
http://leninology.blogspot.com/2011/04/british-police-are-best-in-world.html


The Metropolitan Police are charging Alfie Meadows with 'violent disorder'. Alfie Meadows is the student who was beaten so badly by police that he had to undergo serious brain surgery.


they will always find a way to blameJustify Full the victim, exonerate or protect the guilty, and continue as before.

C. Flower
06-05-2011, 10:05 PM
London Met University in occupation to protest against axing of 70% of courses

"help us to save our University"

http://blog.ucloccupation.com/2011/05/06/london-met-occupation-–-press-release/

http://blog.ucloccupation.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/banner1.jpg

Apjp
06-05-2011, 11:33 PM
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f119/mistersloane/fire1.jpg

:) :) :)

Apjp
06-05-2011, 11:39 PM
I think we can see the real picture emerging now-all across europe the youth are not the ones who voted right wingers into power. I think many young people would welcome the overthrowing of such govts.

C. Flower
05-11-2015, 10:18 AM
Big protest by students in London yesterday - some confrontations with police - http://www.theguardian.com/education/2015/nov/04/student-demonstrators-clash-with-police-at-central-london-rally?CMP=share_btn_tw

Free education is the issue.

pluralist
05-11-2015, 11:23 PM
Police car set on fire near Green Park.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11978779/Millions-Mask-March-Protesters-torch-police-car-as-scenes-turn-violent.html

http://songmeanings.com/songs/view/16605/

It all has the scent of '78/'79 about it, or 2008/'09. But really we're still in 2009, let's face it. Capitalism went kaput then and hasn't been fixed since, has it?

C. Flower
06-11-2015, 07:52 PM
RT catches police provocateurs in action in yesterday's protest.

http://linkis.com/www.rt.com/news/oLz9e