View Full Version : Who is behind the anti David Norris website?
PaddyJoe
26-10-2010, 12:00 AM
Now this is really nasty stuff.....:(
http://www.davidnorris4president.com/index.html
Ah Well
26-10-2010, 12:00 AM
Now this is really nasty stuff.....:(
http://www.davidnorris4president.com/index.html
I see elsewhere it's alleged Cóir are ...
Newsy
26-10-2010, 12:08 AM
'Campaign for conscience' is at the bottom of the website.......which leads to cori....
http://www.campaignforconscience.org/index.html
PaddyJoe
26-10-2010, 12:10 AM
And if i do a search for the postal address listed on the site i get this:confused:
youngdan
26-10-2010, 12:14 AM
"In terms of classic paedophilia, as practised by the Greeks for example, where it is an older man introducing a younger man or boy to adult life, I think there can be something to be said for it. And in terms of North African experience this is endemic.
Now again, this is not something that appeals to me, although when I was younger it would most certainly have appealed to me in the sense that I would have greatly relished the prospect of an older, attractive, mature man taking me under his wing, lovingly introducing me to sexual realities, and treating me with affection and teaching me about life - yes, I think that would be lovely; I would have enjoyed that."...
Why would anyone vote for this perverted loon.
He should be sent to North Africa instead
antiestablishmentarian
26-10-2010, 12:14 AM
Ah I've twigged who's behind this: if it's Mayo it's probably the family who make a daily pilgrimage to the Dáíl to protest against the Civil Partnership bill...I'll do some digging to see if I can't get more info on them.
Ah Well
26-10-2010, 12:14 AM
Domain registration masked by usage of proxy as well
http://whois.domaintools.com/davidnorris4president.com
Ah Well
26-10-2010, 12:17 AM
Why would anyone vote for this perverted loon
They must have Dan - he wouldn't be a Senator otherwise :)
Seán Ryan
26-10-2010, 12:19 AM
This is disgraceful. Bloody whackjobs!
youngdan
26-10-2010, 12:23 AM
This is disgraceful. Bloody whackjobs!
The lad that raped the 16 year old boys should be in jail anyway.
Is this real. Is this las really daft enough to think he should be president. The country can't be that deranged
Ah Well
26-10-2010, 12:25 AM
The country can't be that deranged
A sufficient number of the electorate voted for FF in 2007 to allow them back in.
Christy Walsh
26-10-2010, 12:27 AM
Its seems one man --Enoch the Eunuch is behind it.
Seán Ryan
26-10-2010, 12:29 AM
The lad that raped the 16 year old boys should be in jail anyway.
Is this real. Is this las really daft enough to think he should be president. The country can't be that deranged
He's one of a handful of people in Leinster House that has both a sense of decency and morality. I disagree with him about lots of things, but he's a man of his word and I respect that, especially when you see what's running around in there.
Mick Tully
26-10-2010, 12:30 AM
Do you remember the TD that got £10,000.00 for being assaulted while changing his wheel in the Pheonix Park going in the direction of the Papal cross in the opposite direction to his home
PaddyJoe
26-10-2010, 12:34 AM
Its seems one man --Enoch the Eunuch is behind it.
I see the mobile no. in the print out is the same as on the website alright;)
Ah Well
26-10-2010, 12:34 AM
Its seems one man --Enoch the Eunuch is behind it.
That seems correct ...
The anti Norris Website is "copyright" Campaign for Conscience 2010
And the Whois for the CFC leads to what you have posted
http://www.campaignforconscience.org/
http://whois.domaintools.com/campaignforconscience.org
And if i do a search for the postal address listed on the site i get this:confused:
http://www.property.ie/property-for-sale/Cloonsunna-Ballinrobe-Road-Castlebar-Co-Mayo/495438/
Bingo - matches your postal address above ;)
youngdan
26-10-2010, 12:37 AM
He's one of a handful of people in Leinster House that has both a sense of decency and morality. I disagree with him about lots of things, but he's a man of his word and I respect that, especially when you see what's running around in there.
The website says that he supported the guy that tagged the minors.
Is that true or not. Does not sound very decent to me
PaddyJoe
26-10-2010, 12:37 AM
Ah, so its this person:
The placard holders are members of one big family. When challenged by a pinstriped cyclist, 21-year-old Enoch Burke takes him on. “Well, where does Aids begin?” asks Enoch, following up with HIV figures from St James’s Hospital, to “prove” that homosexuals started it. “God help you,” says the cyclist mournfully. Enoch, who declined a place in medicine at University College Galway, is one of 10 children – all with biblical names – of Sean and Martina Burke from Castlebar, Co Mayo.
His brother Isaac is in third-year science in Galway. Esther is working for her HDip. Ammi hopes to study languages. The family belong to no particular sect. “We’re just a Christian church,” says Martina.
How do she and Sean find the time to support their large family and stand all day outside Leinster House? Sean, she says, was a qualified electrician, “and does a lot of different things now”. Martina, a qualified secondary teacher, “still does private tuition” for exam students. “Of course there are a thousand other things we could be doing. I could cry coming up,” she says, “but there’s a lot of unrest in the country, and the politicians are not representing the people.”
The Bible sustains them on the three- to four-hour drive from Castlebar two or three days a week, before they stand tall with their placards for up to nine hours a day.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/weekend/2010/0710/1224274400543.html
Cáthasaigh
26-10-2010, 12:40 AM
The minute Norris opens his mouth and comes out with that stupid faux accent of his all credibility evapourates.
antiestablishmentarian
26-10-2010, 12:42 AM
The website says that he supported the guy that tagged the minors.
Is that true or not. Does not sound very decent to me
Actually 16 is the legal age of consent in Nepal. He abused a position of trust and power towards those teenagers, but what he did wasn't strictly illegal.
http://www.interpol.int/Public/Children/SexualAbuse/NationalLaws/CsaNepal.pdf
I. Ages for legal purposes
Age of simple majority
The age of simple majority is sixteen (16) years.
Age of consent for sexual activity
The age of consent for sexual activity is sixteen (16) years for both males and
females.
youngdan
26-10-2010, 12:43 AM
Do you remember the TD that got £10,000.00 for being assaulted while changing his wheel in the Pheonix Park going in the direction of the Papal cross in the opposite direction to his home
That is a disgrace. What the hell is a rentboy
youngdan
26-10-2010, 12:45 AM
Actually 16 is the legal age of consent in Nepal. He abused a position of trust and power towards those teenagers, but what he did wasn't strictly illegal.
http://www.interpol.int/Public/Children/SexualAbuse/NationalLaws/CsaNepal.pdf
You mean to say that if a paedophile goes to Thailand for sex with a child that he can not be charged when he comes home.
What a disgrace
Mick Tully
26-10-2010, 12:47 AM
That is a disgrace. What the hell is a rentboy
Excuse my ignorance if i'm wrong but I think it's someone that collects rent for whatever purpose. :rolleyes:
antiestablishmentarian
26-10-2010, 12:50 AM
You mean to say that if a paedophile goes to Thailand for sex with a child that he can not be charged when he comes home.
What a disgrace
Get this into your head: there are multiple different jurisdictions in the world, some which recognise certain crimes, others which don't. If anyone had sex with a child in Thailand then yes they'd be guilty of breaking Thai law but nothing could be done to them under the laws of this or any other jurisdiction bar arrest and extradition on a Thai bench warrant. It is disgraceful but that's the law for you. Anyway the ins and outs of law aren't part of this thread topic so I'll be obliged if you stick to that.
Christy Walsh
26-10-2010, 12:52 AM
The website says that he supported the guy that tagged the minors.
Is that true or not. Does not sound very decent to me
If you already knew what your opinion was why ask the question?
People Korps
26-10-2010, 12:55 AM
The site against David Norris is a Christotaliban front nb scripture links eg http://www.campaignforconscience.org/whatscripturesays.html (http://www.campaignforconscience.org/whatscripturesays.html)
Does this mean Ganley is actually thinking he can run for president of Ireland or is it just his fellow travelers
. The site is a laugh, it may well get Norris more votes than he deserves.
However regardless of the object of the site it shows that there is an active hard coire fundemnetalist movemnet here which is Americanised and willing to act.
The mother site is registered to an Enoch Burke of Cloonsunna, Castlebar, Co Mayo
People Korps
26-10-2010, 12:59 AM
More on these soicial outcasts
six young folk and a couple of older people, airing big placards and implacable certainty – has been running since March. A glimpse at the placards – bearing such messages as “Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind. It is abomination. Leviticus 18:22” – sends a pony-tailed passer-by into a frenzy. He rushes back and forth in front of the group, yelling repeatedly: “Off the streets, Nazi scum!” The protesters stare ahead. Gardaí leave the man to make his own distressed protest until he veers into the traffic. Then they lead him away.
The placard holders are members of one big family. When challenged by a pinstriped cyclist, 21-year-old Enoch Burke takes him on. “Well, where does Aids begin?” asks Enoch, following up with HIV figures from St James’s Hospital, to “prove” that homosexuals started it. “God help you,” says the cyclist mournfully. Enoch, who declined a place in medicine at University College Galway, is one of 10 children – all with biblical names – of Sean and Martina Burke from Castlebar, Co Mayo.
His brother Isaac is in third-year science in Galway. Esther is working for her HDip. Ammi hopes to study languages. The family belong to no particular sect. “We’re just a Christian church,” says Martina.
How do she and Sean find the time to support their large family and stand all day outside Leinster House? Sean, she says, was a qualified electrician, “and does a lot of different things now”. Martina, a qualified secondary teacher, “still does private tuition” for exam students. “Of course there are a thousand other things we could be doing. I could cry coming up,” she says, “but there’s a lot of unrest in the country, and the politicians are not representing the people.”
The Bible sustains them on the three- to four-hour drive from Castlebar two or three days a week, before they stand tall with their placards for up to nine hours a day. http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/weekend/2010/0710/1224274400543.html
People Korps
26-10-2010, 01:01 AM
They defo seem to be leaving this Christian monstrosity of an ugly house at Cloonsunna, Ballinrobe Road, Castlebar, Co. Mayo.
Queer id have a nice thread about these dirty disgraces to the Irish race http://queerid.com/topic.aspx?topicid=26775&pageno=1
People Korps
26-10-2010, 01:11 AM
Ask Enoch Burke Email:enoch@live.ie
Ah Well
26-10-2010, 01:13 AM
Or you can listen to a clip of the man himself here
http://www.tallyman.ie/?p=898
People Korps
26-10-2010, 01:13 AM
The anti Norris site has details hidden but claims
IP Address 188.121.45.64
Host davidnorris4president.com
Location NL NL, Netherlands
City Amsterdam, 07 -
People Korps
26-10-2010, 01:14 AM
The anti Norris site has details hidden but claims
they abort in Netherlands dont they?
youngdan
26-10-2010, 01:17 AM
If you already knew what your opinion was why ask the question?
Please speak english Christy.
I asked if it were true that he supported the pervert
People Korps
26-10-2010, 01:21 AM
Or you can listen to a clip of the man himself here
http://www.tallyman.ie/?p=898
Thanks, as someone with a civil partnership with a "Woman" (I am a man fyi) this guy seems to think that civil partnership is gay marriage. The guy is a an idiot he thinks junkie hiv stats relate to homosexuals, honestly best ignored he is a flatline brain dead idiot
the interview is great thanks Ah Well
Enoch does not even know his bible he says he will "loo it up when he goes home" to mammy... no doubt.
I would recommend social services go out to that family and interview the children they may well have been subject to intense idiocy from their parents.
He talks about Red C polls , was that something Mose's had in his pants?
People Korps
26-10-2010, 01:22 AM
Please speak english Christy.
I asked if it were true that he supported the pervert
Dan dont defend Enoch, I will be upset. He needs normal love not perverted love like he thinks physical love is. How does a young man become so disturbed? He was not in Letterfrack was he?
Too young I believe, so where did the seeds of his sick perverted notions come from?
I think abuse is always at the root of these types sickness
Sam Lord
26-10-2010, 01:23 AM
I don't think we need phone numbers, addresses, or photographs of houses to discuss the issue.
That is my position. If anyone thinks they are absolutely necessary please pm me explaining why.
youngdan
26-10-2010, 01:24 AM
Get this into your head: there are multiple different jurisdictions in the world, some which recognise certain crimes, others which don't. If anyone had sex with a child in Thailand then yes they'd be guilty of breaking Thai law but nothing could be done to them under the laws of this or any other jurisdiction bar arrest and extradition on a Thai bench warrant. It is disgraceful but that's the law for you. Anyway the ins and outs of law aren't part of this thread topic so I'll be obliged if you stick to that.
As usual of course you are easily proven to be totally clueless
http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2010/06/24/us-court-indicts-paedophile-imprisoned-in-thailand/
People Korps
26-10-2010, 01:27 AM
I don't think we need phone numbers, addresses, or photographs of houses to discuss the issue.
That is my position. If anyone thinks they are absolutely necessary please pm me explaining why.
I do especially when the idiots put their names and phone number online and seek publicity in the papers and the like .they wnat us to publish it , it is on their site etc
, it is in the public interest and Gay men may call Enoch to seek a "cure" or indeed discuss Jesus and the Bible with him.
. Anyway they are trying to sell the house, lets hope the notoriety helps them achieve that.
It will be good publicity , a good bigot might want it. We are helping them sell their home surely that is a nice gesture from PW members ?
youngdan
26-10-2010, 01:30 AM
Dan dont defend Enoch, I will be upset. He needs normal love not perverted love like he thinks physical love is. How does a young man become so disturbed? He was not in Letterfrack was he?
Too young I believe, so where did the seeds of his sick perverted notions come from?
I think abuse is always at the root of these types sickness
I have no clue who Enoch is.
I am wondering why people think it is OK to go overseas to engage in sex with underage kids that would merit a long custodial sentence if committed in Ireland
People Korps
26-10-2010, 01:33 AM
I have no clue who Enoch is.
I am wondering why people think it is OK to go overseas to engage in sex with underage kids that would merit a long custodial sentence if committed in Ireland
I do not advocate child rape or general ******* of children but i also dont like people who promote hate..........Enoch is the 21 year old mention on the thread and i gave his mobile number in case you want to chat unless a mod has decided that info Enoch put online is not allowed here on PW , in which case I have another axe to grind .
People Korps
26-10-2010, 01:35 AM
Would the mods on here editing my posts pm me before they do so???
Esp the mod who started this thread what do you think you are up to?
Why did you start the thread you asked a question are you afraid of the consequences of your own question?
Time for a culling of mods who have no lateral thinking methinks CF
People Korps
26-10-2010, 01:37 AM
Still no pm
reinstate my posts you are wasting my time
People Korps
26-10-2010, 01:37 AM
still no pm you have wasted 15 min of my life
People Korps
26-10-2010, 01:39 AM
get of the moderator thread and deal with this
i want my posts reinstated or an explanation THAT MAKES SENSE....i am sick of having my time wasted
youngdan
26-10-2010, 01:41 AM
I do not advocate child rape or general ******* of children but i also dont like people who promote hate..........Enoch is the 21 year old mention on the thread and i gave his mobile number in case you want to chat unless a mod has decided that info Enoch put online is not allowed here on PW , in which case I have another axe to grind .
I have no interest in Enoch whatsoever
People Korps
26-10-2010, 01:41 AM
Who will deal with this ? Two mods editing posts and not one with the time to deal with my complaints???????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????
seriously i am not joking about this
i want Enochs phone number , home address and the photo of the house his family are trying to sell back online.
They are public domain and therefore not issues of debate.
People Korps
26-10-2010, 01:42 AM
I have no interest in Enoch whatsoever
sorry dan another more important matter has emerged , i will get back to you when one of the mods editing my posts gets back to me with an explanation or/and an apology.
youngdan
26-10-2010, 01:42 AM
get of the moderator thread and deal with this
i want my posts reinstated or an explanation THAT MAKES SENSE....i am sick of having my time wasted
Well at least you are still visible:D
Sam Lord
26-10-2010, 01:43 AM
i want Enochs phone number , home address and the photo of the house his family are trying to sell back online.
Why?
People Korps
26-10-2010, 01:43 AM
still no pm and i have to wait 309 seconds between posts
get of the moderators thread and deal with me directly please
People Korps
26-10-2010, 01:47 AM
Why?
i thought you wanted pms but as you at least have after over 5 mins got back to me you should be aware that the answer is obvious , because Enoch wants it online as he put in online and as Enoch has extreme views those who he spread hate about also deserve to have the details easily accessible so they can discuss the bible with him naturally.
It is easy to delete posts and not talk to the poster. You are wastin g my TIME
ON TOPIC RE
Re: Who is behind the anti David Norris website?
youngdan
26-10-2010, 01:47 AM
I want to see the house as well. It must have been big to accomodate 12 people. His dad says he gives tuition now that times are tough. Fair play to him.
I wonder how much dole they are getting
People Korps
26-10-2010, 01:50 AM
I posted the photo on the last page but the OP writer who asked the question deleted it. It is not that big but I think 295K is a bit high of a price to ask for such a home in Castlebar
Sam Lord
26-10-2010, 01:53 AM
i thought you wanted pms but as you at least have after over 5 mins got back to me you should be aware that the answer is obvious , because Enoch wants it online as he put in online and as Enoch has extreme views those who he spread hate about also deserve to have the details easily accessible so they can discuss the bible with him naturally.
It is easy to delete posts and not talk to the poster. You are wastin g my TIME
ON TOPIC RE
Sorry about the 5 min delay. I had a minor domestic matter to attend to. From now on I will try and be at your complete disposal.
PaddyJoe
26-10-2010, 01:54 AM
Would the mods on here editing my posts pm me before they do so???
Esp the mod who started this thread what do you think you are up to?
Why did you start the thread you asked a question are you afraid of the consequences of your own question?
Time for a culling of mods who have no lateral thinking methinks CF
PK, If you checked earlier posts in this thread you would see that the provenance of the website referenced in the OP had already been established before you jumped in. Posting mobile numbers and house photos in the fashion you did just looks inflamatory to me.
youngdan
26-10-2010, 01:57 AM
I posted the photo on the last page but the OP writer who asked the question deleted it. It is not that big but I think 295K is a bit high of a price to ask for such a home in Castlebar
I guess they believe in miracles
People Korps
26-10-2010, 02:01 AM
i fear they do,
and the confuse Red C with the Red Sea of Mose's staff (Staff (stick), a stick or pole to assist with walking, or sometimes used as a weapon. Often associated with symbolic qualities as well.) fame
People Korps
26-10-2010, 02:04 AM
PK is off to spend forty winks in the desert with the widow and her five children , while Enoch and family try to mislead the nation by claiming civil partnership is gay marriage.......any info they post online about themselves may be published in the public interest.
Design for Life
26-10-2010, 04:41 AM
Some people have taken the book of Leviticus too far in trying to justify anti-gay hatred. I hope their wimminz have ample supply of pigeons every 29days.
Slim Buddha
26-10-2010, 05:07 AM
If anyone had sex with a child in Thailand then yes they'd be guilty of breaking Thai law but nothing could be done to them under the laws of this or any other jurisdiction bar arrest and extradition on a Thai bench warrant. .
To the best of my knowledge, if a German citizen has sex with a child in Thailand or anywhere else outside Germany and returns to Germany, and a warrant has been issued by another authority, that citizen can be tried under German law and, if found guilty, be sentenced to a custodial sentence in a German prison.
youngdan
26-10-2010, 05:36 AM
Well to the best of this antiestablish's knowledge he does not even realise how little he knows. In the US a pervert can be charged even if the perversion is allowed in Thailand.
Only in a moral dump like Ireland can a pervert travel overseas and have sex with a child.
I honestly can't believe that this other joker could even be considered for president.
Ireland is a great joke, for anyone smart enough to have escaped of course.
Who is this David Norris. He wants to be president of a country whose founders he calls terrorists.
I thought the fools defending James Connolly to be loons but this takes the biscuit altogether
antiestablishmentarian
26-10-2010, 08:19 AM
To the best of my knowledge, if a German citizen has sex with a child in Thailand or anywhere else outside Germany and returns to Germany, and a warrant has been issued by another authority, that citizen can be tried under German law and, if found guilty, be sentenced to a custodial sentence in a German prison.
Not the case in Ireland I think.
antiestablishmentarian
26-10-2010, 08:29 AM
As usual of course you are easily proven to be totally clueless
http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2010/06/24/us-court-indicts-paedophile-imprisoned-in-thailand/
Child sex tourism is pretty much an exception and only in a few country's like the UK, US and Australia. Not the case in Ireland.
C. Flower
26-10-2010, 08:30 AM
The sad thing is that when at the Dail demonstrations Sept. 29th, there was more life in the various collections of religious zealots gathered at the gates than in the rest of the demonstrators put together.
Tragic.
Baron von Biffo
26-10-2010, 10:35 AM
It claims to be produced by an outfit called Campaign for conscience
http://www.campaignforconscience.org/contactus.html
Andrew49
26-10-2010, 12:23 PM
Web of Trust (http://www.mywot.com/) users rate sites on their:
Trustworthiness
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And if I try to access this site I get this warning:
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c135/theknitter/siteunsafe.jpg
Web of Trust (http://www.mywot.com/) is an add on for Firefox and probably other browsers too.
youngdan
26-10-2010, 03:18 PM
Child sex tourism is pretty much an exception and only in a few country's like the UK, US and Australia. Not the case in Ireland.
Well we are not talking about handbag snatching, but at least you admit your mistake, that is a first
People Korps
27-10-2010, 12:51 AM
Sorry about the 5 min delay. I had a minor domestic matter to attend to. From now on I will try and be at your complete disposal.
Good see my next post
People Korps
27-10-2010, 01:07 AM
PK, If you checked earlier posts in this thread you would see that the provenance of the website referenced in the OP had already been established before you jumped in. Posting mobile numbers and house photos in the fashion you did just looks inflamatory to me.
Paddy as you ignored me yesterday I have ignored you for 24 hours , as OP writer you should be aware that I was answering your question
had you looked at the contact page on the anti Norris site YES THE CONTACT PAGE for that site there are two web sites listed as contact info one is the anti Norris site the other is the Burkes open web site http://www.davidnorris4president.com/contact.html
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Despite what you argued yesterday in fact my approach is correct I have a weird feeling that citizens of the nation have been ringing, emailing and chatting with the family to discuss their views and talk about Jesus and the staff of knowledge or the purple sword of truth or the pork sword or whatever they call the thing that helps makes babies.
Captain Con O'Sullivan
27-10-2010, 08:10 AM
Well to the best of this antiestablish's knowledge he does not even realise how little he knows. In the US a pervert can be charged even if the perversion is allowed in Thailand.
Only in a moral dump like Ireland can a pervert travel overseas and have sex with a child.
I honestly can't believe that this other joker could even be considered for president.
Ireland is a great joke, for anyone smart enough to have escaped of course.
Who is this David Norris. He wants to be president of a country whose founders he calls terrorists.
I thought the fools defending James Connolly to be loons but this takes the biscuit altogether
There may be another reason for Ireland not having such a law Youngdan. That law could if on the Irish statute books have been used to prosecute the many clerical paedophiles who were shifted abroad to the states and elsewhere and reoffended.
Irish law has a habit of leaving gaps where laws should be where they might affect the catholic church and its crew. So I wouldn't go assuming that this is a failing of a socialist society.
If you think thats a little paranoid its as well to remember that back in the early days of this decade a charge of malfeasance was removed quietly from the Irish statute books which could have seen a rake of Irish priests and Bishops in court over covering up and not reporting clerical sexual abuse.
The dead hand in Irish legal circles may not be a socialist or even careless one.
Sidewinder
27-10-2010, 09:41 AM
Not the case in Ireland I think.
Hmmmmmm.
Amazing coincidence how all these little "gaps" and "oversights" in the law of Ireland always just happen to favour the various crimes and known depravities of the maffia and their best pals, eh?
I don't think I've ever seen a case where "flawed" laws in Ireland somehow benefited ordinary working people.
The more I learn and the more I think, the more creeped-out by the whole rotten system I become. And the more I realise that I always knew this was the case, deep down.
Captain Con O'Sullivan
27-10-2010, 12:32 PM
Even where there is the appearance of governance there is the glacial slowness of the Irish judicial system which allows plenty of time for mustering of potential defences, alibis and in the final act a statement by a politician which is deemed to 'prejudice' a case. But only after a ton of legal fees are incurred of course.
Tribunals are a substitute way of making sure politicians don't appear in court in case they get found guilty through some horrific error. They seem to need to take 10 years as a minimum and put the next generations of Irish 'barristers' sons and daughters through college. And then there's the fun of regarding them as unique legal events outside a courtroom which opens up the delicious legal possibility of injunctions, appeals to the High Court, constitutional arguments and file after expensive file. All paid for by Johnjo and Jeanie taxpayer.
The interesting lack of knowledge in the judicial system in Ireland which seems to have created the impression that a fled debtor who is now in the states or some sunny clime is untouchable by Irish justice systems as everybody knows Irish lawyers know little about extradition treaties or international remedies for pursuing said debtors. Someone send the lawyers an informative leaflet.
The pillars of the so-called Republic are rotten with people who are making money out of a continuation of old school debating clubs and filled with people who would not have a chance of reaching such a social stature in any other country.
There's a lot deliberate stupidity among the so-called professional classes in Ireland when it comes to the operation of a criminal justice system and I suspect a lot real stupidity as well.
And Lenihan and co have the cheek to refer to Ireland's international reputation. Ook bloody ook.
mouldybags
27-10-2010, 01:02 PM
Apparently the good folks at queerid.com have been having great fun with the email addresses supplied on the website.
The Campaignforconscience.org whois lookup shows that it is registered by
Registrant Name:Enoch Burke
Registrant Street1:Cloonsunna
Registrant Street2:Castlebar
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Castlebar
Campaign for Conscience website is cited as the copyright holder of the site (davidnorris4president.com) at the bottom of the home page. The contact us info is the same (other than the name) on both sites.
Kev Bar
27-10-2010, 02:04 PM
I do recall when Australia introduced the pay at home for child play abroad.
Twas quite topical at the time - early 90s - in Cambodia.
And guess who was the first to be charged?
The once Aussie Ambassador to Cambodia - His Excellency John Holloway.
(You couldn't make it up)
Mick Tully
27-10-2010, 02:17 PM
The minute Norris opens his mouth and comes out with that stupid faux accent of his all credibility evapourates.
I agree we have enough clowns in politics without that thing running around the Phoenix Park. Anyway he would be to close to the papal cross and he might get into trouble. :D
youngdan
27-10-2010, 10:49 PM
There may be another reason for Ireland not having such a law Youngdan. That law could if on the Irish statute books have been used to prosecute the many clerical paedophiles who were shifted abroad to the states and elsewhere and reoffended.
Irish law has a habit of leaving gaps where laws should be where they might affect the catholic church and its crew. So I wouldn't go assuming that this is a failing of a socialist society.
If you think thats a little paranoid its as well to remember that back in the early days of this decade a charge of malfeasance was removed quietly from the Irish statute books which could have seen a rake of Irish priests and Bishops in court over covering up and not reporting clerical sexual abuse.
The dead hand in Irish legal circles may not be a socialist or even careless one.
I don't claim to be a legal expert, I can't be expert in everything after all.
I believe it is a recent law and indeed a questionable law.
But this attitude of it being OK for this lads buddy to engage in activities which would get him locked up if done at home is a bit Irish. What is sauce for the goose should in this case be also sauce for the goose
Mick Tully
07-11-2010, 01:01 PM
Norris has recorded his eulogy to be delivered at his own funeral as well as trying out his grave for comfort. Is this the sort of person that is so infatuated with his own death we need as head of state. The country is banjaxed enough.
Kev Bar
07-11-2010, 08:13 PM
The minute Norris opens his mouth and comes out with that stupid faux accent of his all credibility evapourates.
I feel for you. Education is scary.
Cáthasaigh
08-11-2010, 08:41 AM
I feel for you. Education is scary.
Norris' accent has nothing to do with education and everything to do with pretension.
Bessie Burgess/Widow Twanky for president ?
After McAleese, I don't think it matters anymore...
"In terms of classic paedophilia, as practised by the Greeks for example, where it is an older man introducing a younger man or boy to adult life, I think there can be something to be said for it. And in terms of North African experience this is endemic.
Now again, this is not something that appeals to me, although when I was younger it would most certainly have appealed to me in the sense that I would have greatly relished the prospect of an older, attractive, mature man taking me under his wing, lovingly introducing me to sexual realities, and treating me with affection and teaching me about life - yes, I think that would be lovely; I would have enjoyed that."...
Why would anyone vote for this perverted loon.
He should be sent to North Africa instead
Indeed.
As what he descibes is currently recognised as rape, is this the equivalent of the ''She was asking for it '' defence ?
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