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Yet again I found myself in agreement with SF. Firstly their action on the by-elections and now they are calling for the Dail to be recalled to discuss the banking crisis and "soaring" unemployment.- Yet again I find myself in agreement with SF.
The past week has seen further allegations about what the Government knew but didn’t reveal to the Dáil when it introduced the bank guarantee,” Mr Adams said.
“Decisions on Anglo Irish Bank, which will have huge ramifications for taxpayers and the future of the State, and on the renewal of the bank guarantee, should not have been taken while the Dáil is on holidays. The Government has no mandate for this.”
The Sinn Féin leader said the Government’s handling of the banking crisis had been “disastrous”.
“It has failed to do anything to tackle soaring unemployment. It is planning further cuts to public services while it puts almost €30 billion of taxpayers' money into Anglo Irish.”
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/0911/breaking10.html
C. Flower
11-09-2010, 02:20 PM
I agree with this call. My view of SF is that they are stepping in to an obvious breach in leadership but only to head it off. In their last conference they clearly flagged the possibility of going in to government with FF.
The smaller parties of the left imo have a wrong analysis that the working class is on the back foot. They simply haven't been called out.
Cáthasaigh
11-09-2010, 03:43 PM
I agree with this call. My view of SF is that they are stepping in to an obvious breach in leadership but only to head it off. In their last conference they clearly flagged the possibility of going in to government with FF.
Got it in one. If history has told us anything then PSF rhetorric should be taken with a tipperload of salt. They will denounce FF and make all the right noises now but should they ever be in a position to prop up a FF administration they would be in there in the morning denying they had ever criticised FF in the first place.
Griska
11-09-2010, 04:13 PM
Ha. The bearded one's educated contribution to the crisis is to ask for the Dail to sit.
How absolutely correct he is and how absolutely underwhelming his contribution is.
C. Flower
11-09-2010, 04:19 PM
I believe someone posted similar before, and that my response on that occasion was that the last thing anyone should be calling for is a continuation of this Dail.
Yet again I found myself in agreement with SF. Firstly their action on the by-elections and now they are calling for the Dail to be recalled to discuss the banking crisis and "soaring" unemployment.- Yet again I find myself in agreement with SF.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/0911/breaking10.html
Why is this individual born and bred in another country interfering in our affairs ?
Christy Walsh
11-09-2010, 04:56 PM
Why is this individual born and bred in another country interfering in our affairs ?
Why does it does not surprise me that you are as bad with geography as you are with finance.
Why does it does not surprise me that you are as bad with geography as you are with finance.
Adams was born and bred in the United Kingdom, I live in the Republic of Ireland. Spot the difference ?
5intheface
11-09-2010, 05:50 PM
Adams was born and bred in the United Kingdom, I live in the Republic of Ireland. Spot the difference ?
Stop trying to provoke and try discussing the issue.
Stop trying to provoke and try discussing the issue.
The point is a UK CITIZEN is telling another sovereign nation what to do. He would be better off focussing his attention on the House of Commons and RBS et al
5intheface
11-09-2010, 05:59 PM
The point is a UK CITIZEN is telling another sovereign nation what to do. He would be better off focussing his attention on the House of Commons and RBS et al
I see your intention is to continue with the wind up, let's see where that leads.
Christy Walsh
11-09-2010, 06:14 PM
Adams was born and bred in the United Kingdom, I live in the Republic of Ireland. Spot the difference ?
United Kingdom and RoI are two seperate legal jurisdictions but if you had a brain then you would know that Ireland is an Island divided, but remains same country. And to pop your self indulgent arrogance the UK is not a country.
Adams was born and bred in the United Kingdom, I live in the Republic of Ireland. Spot the difference ?
No man, woman or child born in Ireland was born in Britain. You might think that, and David Cameron might say it, but the shared executive is that of northern IRELAND. Adams is to be disregarded, but Ireland is Ireland, and you really do seem just here to change topic. We already know you have a fear of the poor, have you a fear of geography? He is right about what he said adams, to get back on topic. but we all know what he said is common rhetoric.
United Kingdom and RoI are two seperate legal jurisdictions but if you had a brain then you would know that Ireland is an Island divided, but remains same country. And to pop your self indulgent arrogance the UK is not a country.
I think the Scottish government and people would also have a thing or two to say on that one. The SNP want their freedom-peacefully.
Newsy
11-09-2010, 08:14 PM
John Curran said.......
“Each member of the Fianna Fáil Parliamentary Party has seen first-hand the impact the recession of the last two years has had on families and communities in their own constituency.
“Securing and creating jobs is the key issue now facing the Government.”
He added: “While other parties seem more interested in talking about elections and their electoral chances, Fianna Fáil will get on with the job of devising policy responses to the challenges that Irish people and companies are facing on a daily basis in the real economy.”
Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/fianna-fail-to-prioritise-job-creation-as-adams-blasts-record-in-govt-473174.html#ixzz0zFmHCdxl
While there is a spat here about where adams is from........
......it takes ff 2 years to see the impact of the recession on families!!!!!
WHERE THE HELL HAVE THE BEEN????
That is the real issue. john curran admitted that, today.......and there is no shock, outrage....
disability student
11-09-2010, 08:20 PM
While there is a spat here about where adams is from........
......it takes ff 2 years to see the impact of the recession on families!!!!!
WHERE THE HELL HAVE THE BEEN????
That is the real issue. john curran admitted that, today.......and there is no shock, outrage....
It only raise plenty of questions re FF party as they are so disconnected withe joe public's.
It's clear that FF were fiddling their thumbs as they were doing nothing just at all - hot air talks without any real meaningful action.
It makes us all the more angry at FF and i would love to see FF wiped out for decades or preferably for good. I hope that they will follow the same path as the P.D's to extinction.
I think the poll is out tomorrow papers?? Correct me if i'm wrong there.
Christy Walsh
11-09-2010, 08:32 PM
I think the Scottish government and people would also have a thing or two to say on that one. The SNP want their freedom-peacefully.
Many Welsh nationalists are non too found of the English connection... And in case there is any emphasis being placed on your inclusion of 'peacefully' then let me remove any confusion --Irish Nationalists up north want their freedom peacfully too....
Newsy
11-09-2010, 08:34 PM
It makes us all the more angry at FF and i would love to see FF wiped out for decades or preferably for good. I hope that they will follow the same path as the P.D's to extinction.
I think the poll is out tomorrow papers?? Correct me if i'm wrong there.
harney was the sting in the pd tail.....pd's will surely be gone after the GE.
I think there is a poll out tomorrow.....hopefully another nail in the cowen/ff/gr/gov.
C. Flower
11-09-2010, 08:44 PM
harney was the sting in the pd tail.....pd's will surely be gone after the GE.
I think there is a poll out tomorrow.....hopefully another nail in the cowen/ff/gr/gov.
Is it possible to get a minus result in a poll?
The point is a UK CITIZEN is telling another sovereign nation what to do. He would be better off focussing his attention on the House of Commons and RBS et al
But Teu you are very much in favour of austerity measures introduced in Ireland.
Those measures and the one's that you are so ardently supporting (cuts in SW) did not come from the elected representitives of this country, they came from the puppet masters of this state residing in the EU.
I also note you have no problem in telling us to work hard and pay our taxes so that we can pay back all that money to those EU states that we took all that cheap easy money from. You are in favour of supporting foreign rule in Ireland by the back door.
You really just don't understand do you? Ireland is being run by other States and we have very little say (if any) in our financial affairs. FF put an end to us having any input in to economic policy by sailing the good ship ROI straight in to the rocks.
Gerry Adams whether you agree or disagree with his policies has elected members of his party sitting in the Dail and is perfectly entitled to express his view on the current state of Ireland.
foxylady
11-09-2010, 08:53 PM
Nobody could question the contribution to Irish politics and Ireland by Gerry Adams, he should be considered a great Irishman. Gerry helped stop the killings and the carnage that existed in Ireland for far too long,’ but’ and there is always a but, he contributed a lot to what he helped to stop.
Gerry’s call today is by no means new, it is a statement to create an emotive response from his supporter, he should know (and most likely does know) that bringing the Dail back to discuss the banking crisis will do little or nothing to solve the crisis caused by greedy individuals who by their actions caused most of the problems we have today.
My personal opinion of Gerry is that he is a politician of conflict, he is a great leader to have when in conflict and I do not mean economic conflict.
Newsy
11-09-2010, 08:58 PM
Is it possible to get a minus result in a poll?
We can dreammmm........
Just got a glimpse at the o'dea 'talk-up' last night......there were a few plants in the audience.......they may be part of the poll....:mad:
Cáthasaigh
11-09-2010, 08:59 PM
Is it possible to get a minus result in a poll?
The election of any gombín is a 'minus result' so there have been 'minus results' in 26C elections since day 1.
foxylady
11-09-2010, 09:08 PM
We can dreammmm........
Just got a glimpse at the o'dea 'talk-up' last night......there were a few plants in the audience.......they may be part of the poll....:mad:
Come on Newsey, he got a great recption, to be honest I was surprised at the reaction of the audience. They could not have all been plants, could they ?
Christy Walsh
11-09-2010, 09:11 PM
The point is a UK CITIZEN is telling another sovereign nation what to do. He would be better off focussing his attention on the House of Commons and RBS et al
The house rules demand that each poster should 'play the ball not the man' --in your case the 'man is the ball' and it is impossibly difficult to know if you are being wilfully stupid or it is a natural affliction? Because you obviously do not like Gerry Adams does not mean he automatically looses Irish citizenship --first you had crazy notions about the unemployed -you fail to understand simple math --economic slump = higher unemployment and not a sudden urge for people to quit their jobs just so they can scam the state. Now you decide who is and who is not an Irish citizen --your posting have little to do with reason and all to do with something else...
Cáthasaigh
11-09-2010, 09:18 PM
The house rules demand that each poster should 'play the ball not the man' --in your case the 'man is the ball' and it is impossibly difficult to know if you are being wilfully stupid or it is a natural affliction? Because you obviously do not like Gerry Adams does not mean he automatically looses Irish citizenship --first you had crazy notions about the unemployed -you fail to understand simple math --economic slump = higher unemployment and not a sudden urge for people to quit their jobs just so they can scam the state. Now you decide who is and who is not an Irish citizen --your posting have little to do with reason and all to do with something else...
Christy just ignore the provocation attempts. I have a wee hypothesis as to the symbolism of the username 'Teu'. I believe that it is an anagram but I'm not allowed to post the conclusion of the hypothesis here but I strongly believe that it explains the behaviour of the poster in question. PM if you require further enlightenment.
Newsy
11-09-2010, 09:21 PM
Come on Newsey, he got a great recption, to be honest I was surprised at the reaction of the audience. They could not have all been plants, could they ?
I didn't hear the reception for his arrival or his departure. However, I can't remember what he said..... the audience (some of) began to applaude. When the camera panned to the audience......there were quite a few people, NOT applauding.
With such exaggerated applause, it is very difficult to hear the silent, unless you actually SEE it.
foxylady
11-09-2010, 09:26 PM
I didn't hear the reception for his arrival or his departure. However, I can't remember what he said..... the audience (some of) began to applaude. When the camera panned to the audience......there were quite a few people, NOT applauding.
With such exaggerated applause, it is very difficult to hear the silent, unless you actually SEE it.
Newsey I watch the whole interview and I can promise you the reception for him was very warm.
You heve to remember O Dea is around a long time and people do like him, especially in Limerick. He announced he was runing so I bet he did his homework before he announced his intensions.
Newsy
12-09-2010, 01:07 AM
Newsey I watch the whole interview and I can promise you the reception for him was very warm.
You heve to remember O Dea is around a long time and people do like him, especially in Limerick. He announced he was runing so I bet he did his homework before he announced his intensions.
Is that you EuroC??
foxylady
12-09-2010, 01:11 AM
Is that you EuroC??
;) don't tell C.Flower
C. Flower
12-09-2010, 01:23 AM
Is that you EuroC??
It is, Newsy. She will be changing to her proper name tomorrow.
foxylady
12-09-2010, 01:38 AM
It is, Newsy. She will be changing to her proper name tomorrow.
I can't believe you told :)
Ah Well
12-09-2010, 01:44 AM
Thought it was EC alright (ya get to recognise typestyles from years wasted on Fora ;)) .... well, some stringent FF defending is a coming so :p :)
C. Flower
12-09-2010, 01:45 AM
I can't believe you told :)
Truth will out.
Christy Walsh
12-09-2010, 01:58 AM
Christy just ignore the provocation attempts. I have a wee hypothesis as to the symbolism of the username 'Teu'. I believe that it is an anagram but I'm not allowed to post the conclusion of the hypothesis here but I strongly believe that it explains the behaviour of the poster in question. PM if you require further enlightenment.
Whoever it is does not intrigue me enough to bother.
C. Flower
12-09-2010, 02:06 AM
So, does this call to bring the Dail back into "action" mean anything, or was it just Press Release day and they had to come up with something ?
Ah Well
12-09-2010, 02:13 AM
So, does this call to bring the Dail back into "action" mean anything, or was it just Press Release day and they had to come up with something ?
Funnily enough I was thinking likewise ...
Monsieur Gilmore is quite capable of fine statements as well
But when the time comes for all/some of these (let's not call them idealists - let's give them the benefit of the doubt with the danger of our potential ruin) to assume the mantle, if and when they do, will they actually walk the walk which follows the talk - talk which they are now doing ... because we are royally fupped otherwise
Cáthasaigh
12-09-2010, 02:46 AM
So, does this call to bring the Dail back into "action" mean anything, or was it just Press Release day and they had to come up with something ?
Maybe Gerry was in Dublin and Mary Lou assisted him with the release.
Captain Con O'Sullivan
12-09-2010, 03:05 PM
I believe someone posted similar before, and that my response on that occasion was that the last thing anyone should be calling for is a continuation of this Dail.
I was just thinking the same thing- anytime the Dail sits it ends up costing the Irish people billions.
Maybe Gerry was in Dublin and Mary Lou assisted him with the release.
Was that meant as an innuendo?
antiestablishmentarian
12-09-2010, 04:18 PM
So, does this call to bring the Dail back into "action" mean anything, or was it just Press Release day and they had to come up with something ?
Silly season is over and SF has their big court case coming up soon so maybe the idea was to try and start some pre-election party profile raising much like Labour and FG have done in recent weeks.
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