Ireland turns its back on popefest.

[Cáthasaigh]

It is understood (according to front page of today's Irish News -no link without subs) that fewer than 70,000 total will attend the open air mass by supreme paedo enabler Benedict in Scotland and this will be his only public appearance.

Over 2,500 tickets (£20 pilgrim passes) were allocated to Ireland for this event and they are being sold by the knights of Columbas and Joe Walsh tours. To date the knights have sold around 250 and JWT about 50.

Wouldn't it be great if he came to Ireland and was shunned. People should practise now and start shunning his underlings and driving them out of every position of influence and authority throughout the country; starting with and in particular the schools.

[Griska]

He wouldn't be shunned, but at least there would be a significant protest.
In a perfect world, there would be tv footage of himself in the popemobile driving through an empty Phoenix Park.

[Cáthasaigh]

He wouldn't be shunned, but at least there would be a significant protest.
In a perfect world, there would be tv footage of himself in the popemobile driving through an empty Phoenix Park.

There'd be no shortage of shoes to clod at the ****** if he appeared at Lough Derg or wherever the loonies walk barefoot up a hill.

[Griska]

there'd be no shortage of shoes to clod at the ****** if he appeared at lough derg or wherever the loonies walk barefoot up a hill.

:d:d:d

[Griska]

there'd be no shortage of shoes to clod at the ****** if he appeared at lough derg or wherever the loonies walk barefoot up a hill.
:d:d:d

[Lapsedmethodist]

Now if I said any of that I'd be the worst in the world !

[Cáthasaigh]

Now if I said any of that I'd be the worst in the world !

It's like the whole white people not being able to use the 'N' word thingy.

[TaxProtester]

Now if I said any of that I'd be the worst in the world !Not if you hadnt chosen that username.

(Actually, that gives me an idea. if I call myself LapsedMuslim, I can criticise Islam, without my posts being censored and deleted) :D

[Cáthasaigh]

Not if you hadnt chosen that username.

(Actually, that gives me an idea. if I call myself LapsedMuslim, I can criticise Islam, without my posts being censored and deleted) :D

Nothing wrong with criticising Islam as long as you aren't a sectarian and you won't be censored here.

[C. Flower]

Not if you hadnt chosen that username.

(Actually, that gives me an idea. if I call myself LapsedMuslim, I can criticise Islam, without my posts being censored and deleted) :D

There is no rule about criticising Islam, atheism or Christianity here.
People need to thrash this out and the fact that religion is dominating the forum at the moment isn't imo accidental. It determines our whole world view and how we feel we should act.

There are rules that require we treat each other with respect and rules against using foul language. Please use the report button if you feel they have been seriously breached.

It can't extend to treating viewpoints with respect, if we think they don't warrant it. Everyone will have to defend their own viewpoint.

[Lapsedmethodist]

Nothing wrong with criticising Islam as long as you aren't a sectarian and you won't be censored here.

Said he who talks about the occupied 6 counties !

[Lapsedmethodist]

It's like the whole white people not being able to use the 'N' word thingy.

It's called reclaiming, I think. My favourite is the " unrepentant fenian bastard " T-shirt !

[John McMahon]

People should practise now and start shunning his underlings and driving them out of every position of influence and authority throughout the country; starting with and in particular the schools.

Who would then control those schools? Do Catholics in Northern Ireland want an increase in Protestant power?

[John McMahon]

There are rules that require we treat each other with respect and rules against using foul language.

What is meant by treating "each other with respect"?

I suggest that treating practising Catholics with respect should include the following:-

A person, who does not like the Mass, need not go to Mass - and should refrain from sneering about the Mass. Such behaviour would be common courtesy.

A person. who does not like confessions, can stay away.

A person, who does not like the Ne Temere decree, need not marry a Catholic.
[I will express most sincere and deep sympathy for the non-Catholic who, on his wedding day, was dragging kicking and screaming to the altar of a Catholic Church to be married to a Catholic. I have yet to meet such a person.]

A person, who does not like Catholic schools, does not have to send his child to a Catholic school. The RC Church does not have snatch squads roaming the streets, like the Shankill Butchers, grabbing children and trailing them, kicking and screaming, to the nearest Catholic school.

A person, who is willing to have Catholic taxpayers (usually unwillingly) fund the education of his/her child, should not whine and yelp about some of the tax he/she pays (probably unwillingly) being used to fund the education of the children of Catholics.

A person, who does not agree with the Pope's views on contraception need not listen to the Pope and should continue contracepting until his heart, or some other part of him, is content.

A person, who thinks that the use of condoms is the best way to combat the spread of Aids, should advocate their use. And stop sneering at the Pope for having a different opinion and advocating having only one sexual partner as the best way to combat the spread of Aids.

A person, who does not agree with the teachings of the RC Church, can ignore those teachings, while respecting the right of the RC Church to preach Catholicism.

Catholics have a right to live without having to endure screams of hate against their Church - whether from fundalmentalist Protestants, Muslims, Jews, Hindus or aggressive secularists.

[Cáthasaigh]

Said he who talks about the occupied 6 counties !

Last time I checked there were still British troops stationed here so we're still occupied.


Who would then control those schools? Do Catholics in Northern Ireland want an increase in Protestant power?

Teachers would control the schools and religious superstition (be it Catholic, Protestant, Muslim or Moonie) would be prohibitted. If parents want to tell their children fairy tales then they should do so on their own time; perhaps they could even send them to a classes where fairies would tell them the tales.

[John McMahon]

Teachers would control the schools and religious superstition (be it Catholic, Protestant, Muslim or Moonie) would be prohibited.

Would Catholic or Protestant parents want the schools controlled by teachers - members of a selfish and greedy profession?

Would practising Catholics (or Protestants or Muslims) want their religion (which you insultingly describe as "religious superstition") to be prohibited?

Would practising Catholics (or Protestants or Muslims) want their chilren to fall into the clutches of a teacher who viewed their religion, and, perhaps, all religions as superstition?

Would practising Catholics (or Protestants or Muslims) want their children sharing the same classroom or playground with the children of a person who describes religion as "religious superstition"?

Should a person who does not respect other people's culture be allowed to teach other people's children?

"If parents want to tell their children fairy tales then they should do so on their own time; perhaps they could even send them to a classes where fairies would tell them the tales.[/QUOTE]

Where and when did you receive authority to tell other people what they should do?

Why should taxpaying parents tell their children "fairy stories" in their own time when they have schools to do so in school time?

[Cáthasaigh]

Would Catholic or Protestant parents want the schools controlled by teachers - members of a selfish and greedy profession?

You're so right much better to have priests running things; no question of greed or selfishness there.



Would practising Catholics (or Protestants or Muslims) want their religion (which you insultingly describe as "religious superstition") to be prohibited?


If they want to teach it to their kids it should be their responsibility; schools should be for education not indoctrination.

Would practising Catholics (or Protestants or Muslims) want their chilren to fall into the clutches of a teacher who viewed their religion, and, perhaps, all religions as superstition? [/quote]

It's increasingly becoming the case whether they like it or not. Incest practitioners don't like being told they can't get up on their sisters but that's just the way it is hi.



Would practising Catholics (or Protestants or Muslims) want their children sharing the same classroom or playground with the children of a person who describes religion as "religious superstition"?

And you think they don't; in increasing numbers?



Should a person who does not respect other people's culture be allowed to teach other people's children?

There's an auld thing called fair employment legislation to cover that.



"If parents want to tell their children fairy tales then they should do so on their own time; perhaps they could even send them to a classes where fairies would tell them the tales.

Where and when did you receive authority to tell other people what they should do? [/quote]

God appointed me, did you not get the memo?

Why should taxpaying parents tell their children "fairy stories" in their own time when they have schools to do so in school time?[/QUOTE]

Time spent in education should be spent on education.

[foxylady]

Ireland turns its back on popefest.

It is a funny thing really, those of us who turn our backs on religon normally turn back in times of trouble ?

(to be honest I would not recommendd turning your back to any of them)

[Cáthasaigh]

Ireland turns its back on popefest.

It is a funny thing really, those of us who turn our backs on religon normally turn back in times of trouble ?

(to be honest I would not recommendd turning your back to any of them)

Was the last bit an ironic comment or are you seriously promoting cowardice?

[John McMahon]

[QUOTE=Cáthasaigh;67260]

"You're so right much better to have priests running things; no question of greed or selfishness there."

Not nearly as much as among teachers.

"If they want to teach it to their kids it should be their responsibility; schools should be for education not indoctrination."

That might be your opinion. Practising Catholics (and Protestants) tend to have an opinion which is different from yours.

"There's an auld thing called fair employment legislation to cover that."

No, there is not. In Northern Ireland the Fair Employment Act does not apply to the recruitment of teachers - not even to teaching posts in State schools. Why did you not know that?

"God appointed me,"

I had been led to believe that you consider God to be a fairy story.

"Time spent in education should be spent on education."

Please leave decisions on that matter to the parents of the pupils.

[foxylady]

Was the last bit an ironic comment or are you seriously promoting cowardice?


Eh I though it was funny :o

[Cáthasaigh]

Not nearly as much as among teachers.

That's right the INTO has a supreme pointy who sits in a castle atop an immense hoard of wealth extracted from the pupils.


"If they want to teach it to their kids it should be their responsibility; schools should be for education not indoctrination."

That might be your opinion. Practising Catholics (and Protestants) tend to have an opinion which is different from yours.

So do paedos and incest practioners, doesn't mean I have to tolerate them.



"There's an auld thing called fair employment legislation to cover that."

No, there is not. In Northern Ireland the Fair Employment Act does not apply to the recruitment of teachers - not even to teaching posts in State schools. Why did you not know that?

Makes a mockery of the concept of fair employment and merely reinforces my argument.



"God appointed me,"

I had been led to believe that you consider God to be a fairy story.

Why should the fairies have a monopoly on exploiting the gullible? If god can speak to Benedict then why not me; or do you have to be a fairy to hear him?



"Time spent in education should be spent on education."

Please leave decisions on that matter to the parents of the pupils.

Education authorities should be the ones making decisons regarding curriculums.

[Captain Con O'Sullivan]

At least Benny and I agree on something- 'pilgrims' are banned from bringing musical instruments along on the grounds they can be a danger to others (exact wording from the official guidance documents).

I quite agree having suffered temporary brain damage from 'pilgrims' and their guitars early on in life.

[Cáthasaigh]

Eh I though it was funny :o

It was, you just don't know if you're dealing with 'funny haha' or 'funny peculiar' on these threads.

[Captain Con O'Sullivan]

John is one of Ireland's leading sectarian comedians- his schtick being that no catholic schoolchild should ever have to perch on a Protestant toilet seat.

The only person I know who ridicules religious belief more than I do; just by posting on a forum.

[Cáthasaigh]

his schtick being that no catholic schoolchild should ever have to perch on a Protestant toilet seat.
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Spare the schtick and spoil the child!

[Captain Con O'Sullivan]

Hope its a catholic schtick and we're dealing with catholic humour here ... I''m genuinely wondering whether John is a satirist.

Its hard to believe that there are people around who espouse such views in reality.