Dublin's Public Transport Map At Last !!!

[C. Flower]

Check this out - at last a proper map of Dublin's public transport routes, with the stops marked. The guy who made it did it as a graphics masters.
He said that the only way to simplify it any more would be to simplify the routes, which are complicated beyond belief.

Hope you find it useful.

http://www.venetikidis.com/aris/start.html

Interview with the graphic artist

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/0830/1224277854874.html

[Griska]

It's great. Apparently, he wanted to do as a project earlier, but his tutor thought it might be too complicated.

[BOZG]

Most certainly needed. But maybe someone more scholarly and interested in these types of things could clarify something for me in relation to the City Centre map. Is the aim to provide an idea of all buses that you would conceivably take from one side of the city centre to the other or to provide an idea of all the buses within the city centre and the general direction they head?

I would assume that these maps are not just for the benefits of local, who probably have a rough idea of bus routes and locations etc but particularly for the use of tourists. There are some extremely noticeable routes excluded from the map if that's the case, even taking account of space restrictions. For example, not a single airport bus route is on the map, or a bus route to the North County. That includes both Airport Direct routes and local buses. And anyone who regularly uses the 41 or 33 buses would know that at rush hour, it's rare to see one of those routes with a free seat and the same can apply even during the day.

[Ard-Taoiseach]

I saw this a few weeks ago and it is a great project with real public benefit. His abilities as a designer are impeccable and I would hope that the RPA, Dublin Bus and Iarnród Éireann take him on as a map-designer. He'd do a much better job than the current lot.

[Baron von Biffo]

I saw this a few weeks ago and it is a great project with real public benefit. His abilities as a designer are impeccable and I would hope that the RPA, Dublin Bus and Iarnród Éireann take him on as a map-designer. He'd do a much better job than the current lot.

Now if only someone would tell him that around 10% of men are colour blind so all his pretty graphics are useless to them.

[BOZG]

Now if only someone would tell him that around 10% of men are colour blind so all his pretty graphics are useless to them.

Miserable git!

[Baron von Biffo]

Miserable git!

Silver tongued devil.

[C. Flower]

Could it be fixed Baron ?


When I looked at it I though the guy was right - the routes looked wild, weird and not wonderful.

[Baron von Biffo]

Could it be fixed Baron ?


When I looked at it I though the guy was right - the routes looked wild, weird and not wonderful.

When I see something like that and the praise for the designer I wonder if we'd heap praise on an architect who designed a building with no wheelchair access.

In fairness it's not the worst I've seen because it's not exclusively colour based but where several lines run close it becomes unintelligible. If it was more like a street atlas with the information spread over several pages he might not have had that problem.

[Ard-Taoiseach]

When I see something like that and the praise for the designer I wonder if we'd heap praise on an architect who designed a building with no wheelchair access.

In fairness it's not the worst I've seen because it's not exclusively colour based but where several lines run close it becomes unintelligible. If it was more like a street atlas with the information spread over several pages he might not have had that problem.

But Baron, I understand that colour-blindness means you cannot distinguish certain colours from one another, but surely you should be able to use the numbers assigned to each route and the legend to figure out the map?

[Baron von Biffo]

But Baron, I understand that colour-blindness means you cannot distinguish certain colours from one another, but surely you should be able to use the numbers assigned to each route and the legend to figure out the map?

"In fairness it's not the worst I've seen because it's not exclusively colour based but where several lines run close it becomes unintelligible. If it was more like a street atlas with the information spread over several pages he might not have had that problem."

[Count Bobulescu]

Update: Click the link for three new maps. Too much info to put in one post.

The 'Confusing and Nonsensical Grandeur' of Dublin Transport


When graphic designer Aris Venetikidis arrived in Dublin a little more than a decade ago, the first thing he did was look for a mass transit map to help him explore the city. Instead he found a transit mess. Dublin's public transportation system consisted mainly of local bus lines, layered one beside the other, each running from the outskirts into the city center. The city's maps didn't have route lines or even station names.
Venetikidis realized just how disastrous the system was when he tried to map it himself. He drew a line for every local bus route, placing them side by side as they enter the city center along similar corridors. In a recent TED talk about Dublin's transit, he called the result of this initial mapping effort "a nice plate of spaghetti." To be more precise he might have called it a plate of spaghetti with rainbow sauce:


http://www.theatlanticcities.com/commute/2012/10/confusing-and-nonsensical-grandeur-dublin-transport/3657/

[C. Flower]

Update: Click the link for three new maps. Too much info to put in one post.

The 'Confusing and Nonsensical Grandeur' of Dublin Transport

http://www.theatlanticcities.com/commute/2012/10/confusing-and-nonsensical-grandeur-dublin-transport/3657/

Very interesting. The original map in the OP is now a 404 error - brownie points to whoever can find it and repost it.

Changing routes is a difficult business, as people choose work and colleges because of accessibility, and losing a route can mean personal disaster.

[Baron von Biffo]

Changing routes is a difficult business, as people choose work and colleges because of accessibility, and losing a route can mean personal disaster.

City life is just riddled with tragedy. Country people don't know how good they have it.

[Count Bobulescu]

Changing routes is a difficult business, as people choose work and colleges because of accessibility, and losing a route can mean personal disaster.

If I read correctly, the article claims that an expanded BRT system even allowing for feeder routes would provide quicker access to the AN LAR.

[fluffybiscuits]

Chances are it would be out of date as there was an amalagamation of the bus routes recently and some routes even closed down. They should have something like the Berlin Map or Paris Metro map...

http://www.ionbee.net/media/parismetromap.jpg

[Count Bobulescu]

It can be done. Just takes some vision and leadership. I know that is in short supply.


Earlier this week we tracked a designer's frustrating efforts to simplify Dublin's "confusing and nonsensical" bus system. Today we look at how a city might actually implement such a significant change. The metropolitan area of Auckland, in New Zealand*, has a similarly flawed bus network — lots of disconnected local routes that run directly into the downtown — but has proposed a redesign plan [PDF] that cuts waste and expands services. The plan is now open for public comment.

Jarrett Walker, author of the Human Transit blog and a recent book by the same name, played a leading role in the planning. The key change is the efficient use of connections, Walker wrote at his blog a few weeks back. With this shift the new plan dramatically increases the network of high-frequency buses — those running at least every 15 minutes all day — and covers far more of the city than just the downtown. Instead of this:
http://www.theatlanticcities.com/commute/2012/10/case-bus-transfers/3713/#

[barrym]

Chances are it would be out of date as there was an amalagamation of the bus routes recently and some routes even closed down. They should have something like the Berlin Map or Paris Metro map...

http://www.ionbee.net/media/parismetromap.jpg

Sorry fluffy. that's the RER, the regional express trains map, not the metro, much less complicated. Take your point though.