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C. Flower
01-07-2010, 09:03 PM
Really good new fossils aren't as common as one might think.

Spectacular fossil remains of a gigantic new whale have been found in Peru.
How do the many Americans who don't accept evolution and believe the earth was created overnight about 4,000 years ago square this with their reality ?

As usual, quite a lot is being extrapolated from a few bones - a jaw bone and some teeth - but they estimate that it was 13 metres long and that it lived on baleen whales, about 12 million years ago.

CNN slide show here ---
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/07/01/peru.levithan.whale/index.html?hpt=C1&fbid=TDrZ0bNKMyI


http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/post.cfm?id=a-whale-of-a-fossil-is-named-in-hon-2010-06-30


.....the specimens found have an age of 12 to 15 million years, so that was impossible," said Professor Jelle Reumer, one of the team of scientists who found the fossil in the Pisco-Ica desert in coastal Peru.

They had been searching for other types of whale fossils in a remote area some 300 kilometers south of Lima. "The place where we found it was 20 kilometers from the nearest village," said Reumer, who is also director of Natural History Museum in Rotterdam.

Strong winds had shifted sand to expose a three-meter long fossilized skull. The skull of today's blue whale, still the largest animal ever known to have existed, is around six meters long.

The fossilized remains found in Peru include a jaw bone and several teeth, each around 12 centimeters in diameter and up to 36 centimeters in length.
The size of its teeth indicate that the mammal fed on large prey, possibly baleen whales which were plentiful at the time of the Leviathan's existence around 12 million to 13 million years ago, in the middle of the Miocene Age, Reumer said.

Captain Con O'Sullivan
01-07-2010, 09:47 PM
The looney tunes are not going to be all that pleased with the recent discovery of groudn grains under an excavated blue stone from Stonehenge either.

Dated by University of Oxford's archaelogists at 7,200 years old. The grain is consistent with the diet worked out on skeletons unearthed just outside the site.

How do you know if theres an elephant in the fridge? Footprints in the butter ...

Xray
01-07-2010, 11:22 PM
Really good new fossils aren't as common as one might think.

Spectacular fossil remains of a gigantic new whale have been found in Peru.
How do the many Americans who don't accept evolution and believe the earth was created overnight about 4,000 years ago square this with their reality ?

As usual, quite a lot is being extrapolated from a few bones - a jaw bone and some teeth - but they estimate that it was 13 metres long and that it lived on baleen whales, about 12 million years ago.

CNN slide show here ---
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/07/01/peru.levithan.whale/index.html?hpt=C1&fbid=TDrZ0bNKMyI


http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/post.cfm?id=a-whale-of-a-fossil-is-named-in-hon-2010-06-30

In Jonah 2:1 (1:17 in English translation), the original Hebrew text reads dag gadol (דג גדול), which literally means "big fish." The Septuagint translates this phrase into Greek as ketos megas (κητος μεγας). The term ketos alone means "huge fish," and in Greek mythology the term was closely associated with sea monsters, including sea serpents.[11] for more information regarding Greek mythology and the Ketos.) Jerome later translated this phrase as piscis granda in his Latin Vulgate. He translated ketos, however, as cetus in Matthew 12:40.

...Furthermore, with over 100 species of fish being discovered per year, present day knowledge of the ocean is still incomplete at best. That being said leaves one with the interpretation that the creature cited in the Jonah account is one of an unknown species, one which could very well be extinct in the present day


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonah

jonahs bones will turn up...

Fermoy
02-07-2010, 02:53 AM
In Jonah 2:1 (1:17 in English translation), the original Hebrew text reads dag gadol (דג גדול), which literally means "big fish." The Septuagint translates this phrase into Greek as ketos megas (κητος μεγας). The term ketos alone means "huge fish," and in Greek mythology the term was closely associated with sea monsters, including sea serpents.[11] for more information regarding Greek mythology and the Ketos.) Jerome later translated this phrase as piscis granda in his Latin Vulgate. He translated ketos, however, as cetus in Matthew 12:40.

...Furthermore, with over 100 species of fish being discovered per year, present day knowledge of the ocean is still incomplete at best. That being said leaves one with the interpretation that the creature cited in the Jonah account is one of an unknown species, one which could very well be extinct in the present day


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonah

jonahs bones will turn up...

Or it could be that too much bone playing has been going on in times past, giving rise to fishy stories :)