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C. Flower
21-06-2010, 05:35 PM
Labour can expect to come in from a battering now that the Party has headed an opinion poll. Gormley is attacking Gilmore's basic socialist credentials.

On Croke Park, Gormley is right that the Labour Party sat on the fence, with implicit support for the deal.

Does the Labour Party have socialist policies and would they deliver a real shift in power and in equality in Ireland, or is Gormley right ?





John Gormley today challenged Labour leader Eamon Gilmore to state how he and his party would tackle the country’s economic problems.
“Labour shamelessly sat on the fence throughout the unions’ debate on the Croke Park agreement rather than showing leadership to working people,” Mr Gormley said.
“More recently they have shown a muddled view on water charges as an important part of securing future services and jobs. It is hard not conclude that Mr Gilmore's creed is no longer socialism but populism,” he added.

“For far too long Mr Gilmore has prospered on cheap soundbites – playing the ‘I-Told-You-So’ card - while resolutely failing to provide alternative proposals to tackle our country's problems. It's now time for him to come clean on these issues,” Mr Gormley said.
The Environment Minister added that the Green Party in government had taken tough but necessary action to fix the banks and restore the economy.
Mr Gormley also criticised Labour for last week voting against key animal welfare legislation and said they appeared to be planning to oppose the ban on stag hunting and also opposed the conservation of raised bogs. “It beggars belief that a socialist party could adopt such a conservative and reactionary stance,” Mr Gormley said.

Andrew49
21-06-2010, 06:36 PM
Receiving a 'battering' from Mr Gormley must be akin to being flogged by a dead sheep.

I don't think Mr Gilmore should tell Gormley how Labour would 'tackle the country’s economic problems." Before Labour can begin to answer his question the Fianna Fail - Green Party - May Harney government need to be consigned to prison for organising the biggest damn robbery in the history of Ireland. While Gormley excoriates Labour for
'planning to oppose the ban on stag hunting and .... the conservation of raised bogs' 15 people are dying each and every day due to health inequalities. Gormley took his party into government with the people responsible for these daily massacres - indeed Gormley's pats his own back for taking the
tough but necessary action to fix the banks and restore the economy which translation from the Green Gormley means cutting the pensions of the blind, the disabled, the widows, the low waged, and the unwaged ... coincidentally the very same people who are dying (15 at a time) each and every day due to those health inequalities.

Rant over.

Labour won't deliver on making this society more equal. Facts are facts. They've been in coalition with FF and FG on a number of occasions and delivered very little on equality. Labour must stand in every constituency in Ireland ... but while waiting for the next election they should be trying to form a broad church of people who would support and deliver on a more fairer society. Labour Mustn't Wait.

Captain Con O'Sullivan
21-06-2010, 06:41 PM
Gormley is in no position to lecture anyone in Irish politics. His arse has been owned by Fianna Fail.

If it was anyone else it might be something but if I were a Labour chappie I'd just release a statement querying whether Gormley even knows which party he is officially in.

Andrew49
21-06-2010, 06:58 PM
Gormley is in no position to lecture anyone in Irish politics. His arse has been owned by Fianna Fail.

If it was anyone else it might be something but if I were a Labour chappie I'd just release a statement querying whether Gormley even knows which party he is officially in.

Succinctly put. Gormley should stick to litter louts and not litter the political field with such chaff.

Labour though are playing a cute(ish) game, appearing to be on the sidelines on the Croke Park deal .... but their silence on the deal appears to be an implicit acceptance of it. Are Labour attempting to be the new 'cute hoors' in Irish politics?

Andrew49
21-06-2010, 07:18 PM
ENVIRONMENTAL crusader John Gormley is counting bats in the belfry at a cost of €60,000. A nationwide survey on the long-eared Irish bat has been approved by the Environment Minister to establish how many of the protected nocturnal animals remain in the country. Source (http://www.independent.ie/national-news/gormley-spends-836460000-counting-protestant-bats-2228657.html)

Most of the bats have been found roosting in the belfries of churches, particularly old Church of Ireland establishments. In fact, preliminary study findings have found the long-eared bats prefer Church of Ireland churches ahead of Catholic churches. This is believed to be because these churches tend to have more spires and steeples.

Murra
21-06-2010, 08:40 PM
Gormley is in no position to lecture anyone in Irish politics. His arse has been owned by Fianna Fail.

If it was anyone else it might be something but if I were a Labour chappie I'd just release a statement querying whether Gormley even knows which party he is officially in.

+1

Gormley claims to be Green, and he isn't. He has impoverished every man, woman and child in this country so that the fat cats can get away scot free. If I were Labour, I would just ignore him. People in glass houses etc.

antiestablishmentarian
21-06-2010, 11:37 PM
He's not wrong. Much and all as I hate to be agreeing with Gormley, there's not a socialist bone in Gilmore or Labour.

C. Flower
22-06-2010, 08:01 AM
He's not wrong. Much and all as I hate to be agreeing with Gormley, there's not a socialist bone in Gilmore or Labour.

At last we have a debate. Just because Gormley said it, it doesn't mean its wrong.

All we need now is someone from the Labour Party to reply...