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Alamo
11-06-2010, 07:06 PM
Good news, Labour is now the biggest party in the state, giving FF and FG a run for their money.

http://www.irishcentral.com/news/news_from_ireland/Labour-party-now-the-biggest-party-in-Ireland-96133684.html

Just going to put up a quick poll on Gilmore and Labour.

C. Flower
11-06-2010, 07:18 PM
Interesting poll - it might be an idea to enable people to vote for more than one option.

charley
11-06-2010, 07:20 PM
outside of the large urban areas labour has no support, sinn fein will probably be the power brokers the next election ,thats scary

Alamo
11-06-2010, 08:21 PM
outside of the large urban areas labour has no support, sinn fein will probably be the power brokers the next election ,thats scary

Well the party is going strong right now, this is the first time in the state's history that a political party besides FF or FG has been polled at the top, so bigger surprises may be around the corner in future. If Labour is gaining in strenght as quickly as this poll suggets, it may even be possible to conceive of Labour branching out into Rural Ireland eventually, particulary given that the anger focused at FF has been growing in recent years. They have been losing support in rural Ireland over the last few years, and it may be concievable that FG are following the same path in this regard.

Anyways isn't this poll partly explained by the huge dip in support for both FF and FG in Urban Ireland?

Arnold Layne
11-06-2010, 09:32 PM
All this opinion poll shows is that the Irsih Electorate are still willing to vote for a party and a leader that sits on the fence. It reminds me of the electorate voting for FFAhern being the republican, socialist or whatever the people wanted to believe.O Labour under Gilmore are no different, no policies, but soundbites to please the masses

C. Flower
11-06-2010, 09:37 PM
Yes I agree that Gilmore is appearing to offer a soft (albeit more social) option and its a deception. But this is also a real fracturing of the support base of FF and FG.

antiestablishmentarian
11-06-2010, 10:18 PM
Fundamentally, there are no real differences between any of the Dáil parties. A 'left-wing' coalition of Labour, the Shinners and assorted others including the remains of na Glasraí would probably still continue the govt. policies of imposing cuts while bailing out the banks: thats what Nu Labour did in the UK, failing to repeal anti-picketing laws and continuing the privatisations of the Tories.

When it comes down to it, each of these parties support the market: they may be able to follow different policies to a limited extent but while capitalism remains they will be bound by the constraints of that system.

BrendanGalway
11-06-2010, 10:28 PM
When it comes down to it, each of these parties support the market: they may be able to follow different policies to a limited extent but while capitalism remains they will be bound by the constraints of that system.

True enough, Pat Rabbitte has described Labour as a "Pro-enterprise Party". I doubt very much that there will be any Red Scares under Gilmore. No Nationalisations(of Useful assets) etc. I expect anything they try to be within the confines of the system as you say. And of course, any attempt to wrestle with our Financial sector will see due consideration given to What the Markets Think.

So Im not mad on Labour but I am thrilled that for the first time, we seem to have moved past the Civil War era. I dont want to get ahead of myself but perhaps if this Crisis has done one thing, it has shaken us out of our self-inflicted Political Stupor. It perhaps suggests a Maturity and Courage from us to choose a new option and reject the Stale, Tired formula of the FF/FG system.

It will be Interesting to see, as we draw closer to D-Day, if Gilmore thinks he is in with a fighting chance of a Majority Govt, will he ask Labour party voters to give preferences to other Left candidates....

moss
16-02-2011, 11:08 PM
Well the party is going strong right now, this is the first time in the state's history that a political party besides FF or FG has been polled at the top, so bigger surprises may be around the corner in future. If Labour is gaining in strenght as quickly as this poll suggets, it may even be possible to conceive of Labour branching out into Rural Ireland eventually, particulary given that the anger focused at FF has been growing in recent years. They have been losing support in rural Ireland over the last few years, and it may be concievable that FG are following the same path in this regard.

Anyways isn't this poll partly explained by the huge dip in support for both FF and FG in Urban Ireland?

Rural Ireland really should be swinging behind Lab.

Their leader values fields at 500,000 a pop.

Mick Tully
17-02-2011, 12:57 AM
Good news, Labour is now the biggest party in the state, giving FF and FG a run for their money.

http://www.irishcentral.com/news/news_from_ireland/Labour-party-now-the-biggest-party-in-Ireland-96133684.html

Just going to put up a quick poll on Gilmore and Labour.

When did you get back from Mars :rolleyes: